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4 sticks 3733 isnt a problem. I can do 4x4000 with XMP, 2x4266 with XMP. Those are the only kits I have tried thus far. 4x3733 should be a cake walk.
Great to hear!

Since you can divulge some info now... did any waterblock manufacturers contact you guys about doing VRM and/or south bridge blocks? It’s always interesting seeing blocks come out with boards either already included or being released the same week as the actual board does. Being that the X570 chip runs so hot, it’d make since for (probably) multiple waterblock companies to contact the big board companies on getting the PCB layout early. Also, any reason why the Aorus Xtreme is being released after every other board? Newegg says stock on the 12th.

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Great to hear. I have an Arous Master X570, and was considering returning it due to the fan. It really needs to be in SmartFan..

Can you tell me what Bios are the newest? I have F5e but cannot boot with G.Skill 3600 2x8gb in XMP profile, it defaults down to 2133.
Really? Newest if F5E.

Can you try F5C - http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_x570-aorus-master_f5c.zip

I have 4x8GB @ 4000 XMP no problem. Worked on all the F5x BIOS I have tried.
 

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That's good to hear, it's really quite annoying at the current noise level- I'd love it if there was a setting to turn it off completely as long as temperatures were decent enough, I'd rather buy a slightly larger, quieter fan and just aim it directly at the chipset, if possible
Me too!

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Forgive my noob question but do you know if you need to use the Ryzen Balanced power plan to get the max PBO (extra 200MHZ) on this board/ 3700X or do I need to use the Windows balanced? I'm on 1903 btw
 

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As far as i understand this? You want it on Ryzen Balanced, no matter what, where or when;
What changes are the settings in said power plan:

- If for example you don't use dedicated software (say Ryzen Master) and have a BIOS all core-OC, ideally you max out core speed and power allowance, disable power savings, etc;
- If you do make use of PBO for example or any other software-related feature, you want to keep both core and power settings at default.

The reasoning has been covered here and there, but in short, the less power your CPU is currently consuming (and therefore the less heat it outputs, both come into play), the higher it will shoot up when PBO kicks in and/or the longer it will stay there, hence the above. Inversely, when you have a fixed frequency all core overclock no matter what, you've nothing to gain from any of these "opportunistic boost" features, they won't even be activated for you. So naturally, the higher you keep its cycles, the better. So again Balanced, but with everyhting maxed out or disabled accordingly.
Of course there are two further factors one needs to consider, one being unecessary power draw and the other the actual (read: tangible) use of a steady 4200ish overclock. I won't go into either, as frankly it's more of a stance thing than anything else.

* small note here as i see that "1903" mentioned a lot. All it does, all it does, is ensure the cores speed up or down a touch faster, or more strictly speaking, that there's a reduced latency between the instruction to modify frequence and its execution. Useless in the first scenario (stable all-core OC) and of minimal benefit in the latter (PBO) as has been shown by actual testing. Furthermore if not already evident, nothing to do with the NUMA/UMA-aware issue in non-monolithic designs of Windows Scheduler; that remains broken and equally frankly? Slightly on purpose, lol, but that's a different topic. Don't rush to 1903 and the new full screen ""exclusive"" headaches -which btw can no longer be disabled- unless you really need to, aka know what you're doing. Newest is not always best.
 

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Really? Newest if F5E.

Can you try F5C - http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_x570-aorus-master_f5c.zip

I have 4x8GB @ 4000 XMP no problem. Worked on all the F5x BIOS I have tried.
Glad you guys are working on improving the chipset fan curve. On the Master my chipset fan wont go under 3750 rpm, it is EXTREMELY annoying. On another note, I have a 4000 CL19 kit that I am running at 3733 CL16. For you to run 4000Mhz, do you also have the infinity fabric clocked at 2000Mhz or is it running at 1000?

Also any idea when the Xtreme boards will be available? The extra money would be worth not hearing this obnoxious high pitch fan noise...
 

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Really? Newest if F5E.

Can you try F5C - http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_x570-aorus-master_f5c.zip

I have 4x8GB @ 4000 XMP no problem. Worked on all the F5x BIOS I have tried.
Thanks for the reply! Huge help having an actual employee respond. My board shipped with F3 Bios, I tried to post XMP profile but it did not post. I updated to F5e last night and got the same exact result, reverts to 2133. I plan to try manual settings after work today, maybe just try to post @ 3000 speed...

Here is the exact G.Skill 3600 Kit I am using:
F4-3600C17D-16GTZR
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232483

FWIW I do not see this kit model # on the supported list: http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_x570-aorus-master_matisse.pdf
I do see some type of AMD Specific memory kit G.Skill 3600: F4-3600C16D-16GVK'

I also installed the latest chipset driver from AMD on the Gigabyte x570 Master page.

Is F5c supported? I do not see it anywhere on the Gigabyte site.. Do you have a kit part # for 3600 speed you recommend?
 

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As far as i understand this? You want it on Ryzen Balanced, no matter what, where or when;
What changes are the settings in said power plan:

- If for example you don't use dedicated software (say Ryzen Master) and have a BIOS all core-OC, ideally you max out core speed and power allowance, disable power savings, etc;
- If you do make use of PBO for example or any other software-related feature, you want to keep both core and power settings at default.

The reasoning has been covered here and there, but in short, the less power your CPU is currently consuming (and therefore the less heat it outputs, both come into play), the higher it will shoot up when PBO kicks in and/or the longer it will stay there, hence the above. Inversely, when you have a fixed frequency all core overclock no matter what, you've nothing to gain from any of these "opportunistic boost" features, they won't even be activated for you. So naturally, the higher you keep its cycles, the better. So again Balanced, but with everyhting maxed out or disabled accordingly.
Of course there are two further factors one needs to consider, one being unecessary power draw and the other the actual (read: tangible) use of a steady 4200ish overclock. I won't go into either, as frankly it's more of a stance thing than anything else.

* small note here as i see that "1903" mentioned a lot. All it does, all it does, is ensure the cores speed up or down a touch faster, or more strictly speaking, that there's a reduced latency between the instruction to modify frequence and its execution. Useless in the first scenario (stable all-core OC) and of minimal benefit in the latter (PBO) as has been shown by actual testing. Furthermore if not already evident, nothing to do with the NUMA/UMA-aware issue in non-monolithic designs of Windows Scheduler; that remains broken and equally frankly? Slightly on purpose, lol, but that's a different topic. Don't rush to 1903 and the new full screen ""exclusive"" headaches -which btw can no longer be disabled- unless you really need to, aka know what you're doing. Newest is not always best.

Thanks, I noticed that my cpu will not g past 4300 with the PBO settings in bios @ Auto and if I touch anything under PBO such as scalar x10, max boost 200mhz the clocks max clocks are even lower and my CB15 scores drop. Best single is 199 drops to 193 while the clock only hits 4200. I'm hoping this is a bug in the AGESA and will be addressed soon. As I mentioned 4.4 is no where to be seen on HWiNFO64 which should be the out of the box max single core boost. I am also using a large tower style air cooler which is sililar to the Noctua NH-D15 in performance.

Or I'm not setting things properly as I don't know what the max PPT, TDC, EDC for 65 watt part is nor can I find max safe temp on google.

Also would I be able to apply a negative vcore offset to get better PBO boosting like on my 2700X?
 

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Also just wanted to add that my chipset fan runs @ 4300 RPM at 53 degrees which is insane. It sounds like a shop vac right next to me. Hopefully there will be a way to manually control via smart fan as for now I have a small 90mm fan aimed up from the bottom of case towards the chipset to get it down to 46 degrees while sounding like a vega blower style GPU
 

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Also just wanted to add that my chipset fan runs @ 4300 RPM at 53 degrees which is insane. It sounds like a shop vac right next to me. Hopefully there will be a way to manually control via smart fan as for now I have a small 90mm fan aimed up from the bottom of case towards the chipset to get it down to 46 degrees while sounding like a vega blower style GPU

That’s exactly how I have mine set up for now, I’ll give them a solid week before I return the Aorus Master and go for either Asus or MSI.
 

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I read over on the Level 1 Tech forums that Wendell was able to get 4.55 single core boost speed on his 3700X with a lot of messing around. I really wish he would have elaborated as that is what I would like to see instead of 4.3 max.

Also I noticed the PBO settings are in 2 spots in this bios
1st under settings AMD/CBS XFR2
also under AMD Overclocking

so my question is which PBO settings should be messed with or do they both have to match

under the AMD overclocking there is an advanced option which lets you choose Motherboard. I noticed my CB15 multi went up 100 while the single went down vs the all Auto behavior.

Hopefully more experienced users will share their settings once they have had a chance to get everything setup.
 

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@GBT-MatthewH I will understand if your time schedule does not allow for an answer, but if you could be so kind.. Am planning for a second build, will be using the Master on that one; and i'd like to replace the stock chipset cooling solution with a proper (read: from back then) chipset cooler.
Could you specify the mounting dimensions please? Just so i know what cooler can fit? Hole center to hole center, that kind of thing? There must be a diagram somewhere, your side of things?

Would sincerely appreciate this.
 
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