Overclock.net banner
81 - 100 of 19441 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Rut-roh Shaggy, that may be the same kit I got from Microcenter... :O

Edit: Just checked, IT IS THE SAME KIT I GOT OH NO! Now I'm wondering if I should return it (I've got 15 days) and grab the Crucial 3600CL16 kit I originally wanted to get....
Yeah I got my Kit at MC as well. I think i'm going to go with a QVL supported kit, as I just want to set XMP and move on.

When I did some investigating into the many G.Skill 3600 kits, G.Skill make a nearly identical kit with CL18 (AMD) vs CL17 (Intel, what we have). I might give it one more try by loosening timings to see if its more compatible, but I really just want an XMP supported kit. To my understanding this kit should work, but x570 support is still too new to know for sure.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
42 Posts
Hi, got a 3700x with the Aorus x570 today. I have some issues though.
The bios is really slow, takes 2 seconds to register input.
Pressing delete to enter bios only works while keyboard is plugged into the front of the case usb.
Rebooting the PC reboots about 6 times before it enters windows.
I’m on the Latest F5 bios, I was on the F3 bios that came with the board but same issues.
Home screen is green tinted while in windows but fixed with latest nvidia drivers.

Anyone having similar issues???
anyone chime in?
 

· Tetrapyloctomist
Joined
·
1,766 Posts
anyone chime in?
Lucky you, still "on order" for me.. waiting game :)

As to your issue, the usual troubleshooting steps are a good start really.. i mean no offense, but it's rather logical if you find replies lacking. BIOS to default, then to to second BIOS and repeat, then to BIOS flashing (sometimes it doesn't go through as it should, hence re-trying), then removing components one by one and retrying, then trying same USB peripherals by connecting them in different headers, again one at a time, etc. etc. Including where possible switching components with others of the same kind and seeing whether the issue persists. All this assuming you haven't messed with something you shouldn't.
That green in particular however screams GPU and even though you say drivers fixed it, truth is it's 99,99999% a hardware issue; may or may not appear again, so some extra looking into on that alone is also warranted.

Would also help if you started a thread so that more people could see it. System specs and steps already taken included.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
523 Posts
Update on fan -

I got a new test bios today. If everything checks out we will have 3 profiles and manual fan curve control. Manual control is new and why we have a new test BIOS. Also why I don't have a public beta yet. Once validated I'll have a beta bios for y'all to try.

(Very hasty test on my own system. Not scientific at all. Ymmv on rpm based on ambient Temps and load)

Silent - fan rpm 1600 idle / 1800 load.
Balance (default) - rpm 2000 idle / 2200 load.
Performance - rpm 2600 idle and load.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
523 Posts
Yeah I got my Kit at MC as well. I think i'm going to go with a QVL supported kit, as I just want to set XMP and move on.

When I did some investigating into the many G.Skill 3600 kits, G.Skill make a nearly identical kit with CL18 (AMD) vs CL17 (Intel, what we have). I might give it one more try by loosening timings to see if its more compatible, but I really just want an XMP supported kit. To my understanding this kit should work, but x570 support is still too new to know for sure.
Can you send me a picture of the serial number sticker on the kit. I'll send it to my guys to see if they have that kit in house to test or can get it.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
19 Posts
Update on fan -

I got a new test bios today. If everything checks out we will have 3 profiles and manual fan curve control. Manual control is new and why we have a new test BIOS. Also why I don't have a public beta yet. Once validated I'll have a beta bios for y'all to try.

(Very hasty test on my own system. Not scientific at all. Ymmv on rpm based on ambient Temps and load)

Silent - fan rpm 1600 idle / 1800 load.
Balance (default) - rpm 2000 idle / 2200 load.
Performance - rpm 2600 idle and load.
Is there also a 0 RPM function, like the MSI boards? Where the fan is off and only starts at a certain temperature?
 

· Registered
Joined
·
2,050 Posts
@Aenra (not sure but OCN has me replying to AlphaC post on X570 AORUS reviews)

HR-55 (50 more HR than me). Nice. I have been looking for one of them. Should have order one before X570.

I kept them all. Guess I'm a collector. One HR-05 SLI on GA-P35-DS3L and the other on GA-P35-DS3R (will be donors, Elite and Master look fun).

Thermalright Coolers: SK7 (x2), AX7, XP-90, XP-120, Ultima-90, TRUE 120 original and a TRUE 120 rev.C 1366-RT (now on AM4), True Spirit and AXP-200R
 

· Registered
Joined
·
200 Posts
Update on fan -

I got a new test bios today. If everything checks out we will have 3 profiles and manual fan curve control. Manual control is new and why we have a new test BIOS. Also why I don't have a public beta yet. Once validated I'll have a beta bios for y'all to try.

(Very hasty test on my own system. Not scientific at all. Ymmv on rpm based on ambient Temps and load)

Silent - fan rpm 1600 idle / 1800 load.
Balance (default) - rpm 2000 idle / 2200 load.
Performance - rpm 2600 idle and load.
You are a Godsend. Any chance that beta bios will drop today at all?
 

· Registered
Joined
·
3,246 Posts
Hi there.

Does the Extreme have the ability in bios to change from PCIe 4.0 to 3.0?

Will Ryzen 3000 series be the last to use AM4?
 

· Tetrapyloctomist
Joined
·
1,766 Posts
kept them all
That explains it :)
I find the thought of brand new chipset coolers coming out (or being re-launched) both endearing and amusing, but it was always a possibility, taking what was once part of "Southbridge" back out again; we never quite solved that, just got lax thanks to fabrication leaps.
Would be kinda nice if we ever got back there! Interesting for sure anyway ^^
 

· Registered
Joined
·
123 Posts
I got the elite on launch day. I got 2x8 16gb 3200 cl14 flare x kit for it to pair with a 3900x. I dled the ram calculator and entered everything into the bios. The timings etc stay, but the frequency went to 2400. How do I tell it to run 3600 in the bios? It does 3200 np on the xmp profile. I'm a complete noob to memory ocing. I'm at work right now but there was a option on the same screen to get to the sub timings. It was at auto and the value was 24. I assumed this was where I could tell it frequency and figured 24x100 was 2400, so I tried 36 and rebooted and it took awhile to eventually post and said all settings were restored to default. I did watch a video of how to use the calculator and taiphoon. Any help appreciated.
 

Attachments

· Registered
Joined
·
431 Posts
Hi guys, seriously considering one of these boards for either a 3700X or possibly a 3900X haven't fully decided yet. I'm not sure which way to go though on the board. I was hoping to stay under 300 and before deciding to go Ryzen I had originally been thinking of a 9700K on a Z390 Master or Ultra if the Master wasn't on sale. So now I'm thinking Master again for X570 but of course it's way more $$$. I've been reading that the X570 Ultra is kind of an odd board using the VRM from the Pro and stealing some features from the Master.

Was seriously debating doing it anyway though because while the Pro would technically work for me, I think the open fan design on the chipset looks horrible vs the more shrouded versions that are on the higher end boards from all the mfr's. Since this will be going in an H500M case sitting next to me with a huge glass panel, I'm kinda being vain and adding aesthetics into the mix a bit. Any opinions would be nice on which way to go for the board choice.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
3,246 Posts
On the fence about switching from my X58 to an X570 and if I do it'll be the Extreme
 

· ⤷ αC
Joined
·
11,217 Posts
Ugh, I read that. I replaced my Ubuntu install with Manjaro like 3 weeks ago, too! :D It's all good, I can wait. These days I hardly have any time for my computer / games anyway with the fam so I can wait a bit. I'll most likely get verification that Manjaro will work, then do a fresh install after backing up /home.

What OS are you running right now? Have you gotten Ryzen 3000 yet?
Fedora 30 (Spin XFCE instead of Gnome) + Ubuntu 18.04LTS with kernel 5.0 backport from 19.10 (for use with Wine , DXVK/D9VK) on XFCE desktop environment
& Windows 7 Pro SP1 on my R7 2700X system with Windows 7 chipset drivers
Bit of history

I started using Ubuntu around version 5 (Knoppix was a popular live distro at the time) and started looking for alternatives around 12 or so (when Amazon integration was introduced with Unity interface). At the time Linux Mint gained many users because of this. With the announcement of Ubuntu dropping 32-bit support Linux Mint Debian edition (LMDE) might have a resurgence.


I used Manjaro for a short time in a VM but then the install was borked beyond repair so probably not going to deal with that again. Additionally most commercial software comes in rpm (Fedora/CentOS/RHEL) or deb (Debian/Ubuntu/Linux Mint) packages. The Fedora flatpaks streamline updates quite a bit, while Ubuntu simply has greater support in general for consumer applications as much as people hate it (through snap since 16.04 or ppas). For example Navi (RX 5700XT) is getting official AMD drivers on Ubuntu LTS.

There's been a push to use .AppImage which essentially is standalone for all Linux distros.

I was going to get Ryzen 3rd gen but R9 3900X and R7 3700X sold out right after I finished reading reviews.

Windows doesn't show the true capability of Ryzen: there's large amounts of potential still yet to be discovered by reviewers that are using Windows 10. For example my R7 1700X @ 3.9 scores higher Geekbench 4 single thread than a R7 2700X with PBO in Windows or i5-8600.


-----------
HR-55 (50 more HR than me). Nice. I have been looking for one of them. Should have order one before X570.

I kept them all. Guess I'm a collector. One HR-05 SLI on GA-P35-DS3L and the other on GA-P35-DS3R (will be donors, Elite and Master look fun).

Thermalright Coolers: SK7 (x2), AX7, XP-90, XP-120, Ultima-90, TRUE 120 original and a TRUE 120 rev.C 1366-RT (now on AM4), True Spirit and AXP-200R
Ultimately I think the most elegant solution is to cool the chipset from the back of the board , although most cases don't have a cutout there so likely a thermal pad with a full metal plate or simply a thermal pad to the case might be an option (assuming newer BIOS scale RPM based on temperature). The problem with HR-05 / HR-55 is that it may interfere with larger GPU coolers.

Update on fan -

I got a new test bios today. If everything checks out we will have 3 profiles and manual fan curve control. Manual control is new and why we have a new test BIOS. Also why I don't have a public beta yet. Once validated I'll have a beta bios for y'all to try.

(Very hasty test on my own system. Not scientific at all. Ymmv on rpm based on ambient Temps and load)

Silent - fan rpm 1600 idle / 1800 load.
Balance (default) - rpm 2000 idle / 2200 load.
Performance - rpm 2600 idle and load.
This is great news.

I think the largest issue at hand right now for the BIOS engineers is to get the fan RPM under greater user control. I believe MSI has a physical advantage here due to the fan placement further down along the board.

People using their boards for 8 cores aren't going to necessarily feel the minimal MHz single core boost that supposedly is going to come with BIOS updates across all vendors, but they will definitely hear the difference to 1600RPM and less.

I saw a czech review (diit.cz) that compared the Aorus Master and Taichi and they said the Taichi was running at an insane 6000RPM ! Aorus Master idled at 2000RPM per the reviewer ; I don't know who at Asrock OKed that. :rolleyes:
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
523 Posts
You are a Godsend. Any chance that beta bios will drop today at all?
Nope, taiwan is just waking up and by the time they get around to finalizing anything I will be asleep :) Soon though - From past experience I would rather iron out any small issues I find first, then release the BIOS. Otherwise I am posting a new BIOS everyday. It gets confusing, and makes for a bad experience. Honestly the BIOS I got this morning is 95% good, I have 2 suggestions for the engineers then I think were good to go.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
523 Posts
Does the Extreme have the ability in bios to change from PCIe 4.0 to 3.0?
I only have master, I don't see the option off hand. Is this something you need? If so why? The PCIe speed is auto negotiated depending on what you plug in.

*Edit: GBT_Matthews, humble reminder about chipset cooler compatibility (mounting dimensions, a mere hole center to hole center distance, whatever you're in a position/allowed to provide)
The holes are not standard. I requested mechanical drawings for the PCH fans and VRM section, incase you guys wanna get super crazy and make a custom VRM block or something lol.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
794 Posts
I got the elite on launch day. I got 2x8 16gb 3200 cl14 flare x kit for it to pair with a 3900x. I dled the ram calculator and entered everything into the bios. The timings etc stay, but the frequency went to 2400. How do I tell it to run 3600 in the bios? It does 3200 np on the xmp profile. I'm a complete noob to memory ocing. I'm at work right now but there was a option on the same screen to get to the sub timings. It was at auto and the value was 24. I assumed this was where I could tell it frequency and figured 24x100 was 2400, so I tried 36 and rebooted and it took awhile to eventually post and said all settings were restored to default. I did watch a video of how to use the calculator and taiphoon. Any help appreciated.

You should start off by taking smaller steps. The timings in the pic are very tight for 3200. If I were you I would run those settings @ 3200 and then run Memtest HCL or Karhu or similar. There is a DDR OC thread here on Overclock.net.
LINK: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-...en-ddr4-24-7-memory-stability-thread-144.html

If it passes 1000% and doesn't crash under gaming loads or stress tests then up the frequency to 3333. If you pass at 3333 then try 3466.

When you get to the point where the memory stability tests are showing errors then you know that you need to loosen timings/ and or up the DRAM voltage.

But jumping to 3600 with those timings isn't gonna happen unless you are extremely lucky and get golden silicon. One of the best Samsung B- Die kits is 3600 cl15. 3600 cl 16 <3200 cl14 <3600 cl 15
 

· Registered
Joined
·
794 Posts
I only have master, I don't see the option off hand. Is this something you need? If so why? The PCIe speed is auto negotiated depending on what you plug in.



The holes are not standard. I requested mechanical drawings for the PCH fans and VRM section, incase you guys wanna get super crazy and make a custom VRM block or something lol.
I have come across that setting in bios f5e. I tried changing it to 3.0 to see if the chipset would run any cooler and quiter. It didn't make any difference though, lol

I can't remember exactly where it was but it is buried
 
81 - 100 of 19441 Posts
Top