[flyinion]

Anyone have any input on whether to run the Master, Ultra, or Pro (most likely a 3900X on it)? I'm trying to talk myself into the cheaper boards to shave a few $$$ off but I don't want to end up with a board that won't be optimal for the 3900X or........potentially......whatever might come in the next gen(s) that will fit in an X570. Of course I'm also trying to talk myself INTO the Extreme so I don't have to deal with a chipset fan, but yeah that's probably not gonna happen. I'm also not a huge fan of the look of the fan on the Pro. My understanding is the Ultra and Pro have the same VRM?

 

[Heuchler]

Nice to see on here Timmy Joe. Enjoyed your Fury and RX 5700 custom cooling videos. The X570 Aorus Pro seems like a lot of board.

Hey there, long time listener, first time caller. I've got some things to say. I got the Aorus Pro Wifi today and damn it's impressive. Similar board and Moparman is me friend so I'll post this here:

Able to boot a Geil kit of B-Die 4133 CL19 to boot with the XMP profile and just work: https://www.newegg.ca/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158762

First time I've been able to do that on any platform with out lowering the frequency. I will be messing with the timings but for my first post I figured I'd show how well the 3700x and these Aorus boards are working together! The screenshot is the memory bandwidth at the xmp profile along with the frequencies and scores I'm getting on a Deepcool Captain 240mm CLC and just PBO set in the bios to auto. I loved the x470 version of this board, I can tell I'm going to love the x570. I've got some issues booting my Radeon RX 5700 on it though. I've got an email to Gigabyte in about that.

 

[pschorr1123]

That's kinda disappointing, hopefully the master is different otherwise I'll have to look into something else, I want a board that I can turn the fan off on and still run under 75C, the ACE can do that, don't know about the VIII hero or the master thought.

GBT Matthew posted a test bios earlier today that allows you to select between 3 profiles for the chipset fan with my favorite being "silent" which shuts it off entirely until it gets hot. In my case it hasn't gone above 57 degrees and thus the fan has stayed off

 

[pschorr1123]

Hey there, long time listener, first time caller. I've got some things to say. I got the Aorus Pro Wifi today and damn it's impressive. Similar board and Moparman is me friend so I'll post this here:

Able to boot a Geil kit of B-Die 4133 CL19 to boot with the XMP profile and just work: https://www.newegg.ca/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158762

First time I've been able to do that on any platform with out lowering the frequency. I will be messing with the timings but for my first post I figured I'd show how well the 3700x and these Aorus boards are working together! The screenshot is the memory bandwidth at the xmp profile along with the frequencies and scores I'm getting on a Deepcool Captain 240mm CLC and just PBO set in the bios to auto. I loved the x470 version of this board, I can tell I'm going to love the x570. I've got some issues booting my Radeon RX 5700 on it though. I've got an email to Gigabyte in about that.

Love your vids, keep up the good work TimmyJoe

 

[Heuchler]

Anyone have any input on whether to run the Master, Ultra, or Pro (most likely a 3900X on it)? I'm trying to talk myself into the cheaper boards to shave a few $$$ off but I don't want to end up with a board that won't be optimal for the 3900X or........potentially......whatever might come in the next gen(s) that will fit in an X570. Of course I'm also trying to talk myself INTO the Extreme so I don't have to deal with a chipset fan, but yeah that's probably not gonna happen. I'm also not a huge fan of the look of the fan on the Pro. My understanding is the Ultra and Pro have the same VRM?

Power Delivery Controller H-Side|L-Side I/O Doubler B-CLK Audio

GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Xtreme 16x70A IR XDPE132G5C (14+2) TDA21472 (14) 3x M.2, 10GbE,1GbE - Y ESS 9218 DAC + ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Master 14x50A IR XDPE132G5C (12+2) IR3556 (12) 3x M.2, 2.5GbE,1GbE - Y ESS 9118 DAC + ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Ultra 12x40A IR35201 (6+2) IR3553 (12) 3x M.2, 1GbE IR3599 (6) ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Pro/WIFI 12x40A IR35201 (6+2) IR3553 (12) 2x M.2, 1GbE IR3599 (6) ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 I Aorus Pro ITXI 6x70A IR35201 (6+2) TDA21472 (6) 2x M.2, 1GbE - ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Elite 12x50A ISL69138 (6+1) Vishay DrMOS (12) 2x M.2, 1GbE ISL6617 (6) ALC1200 with WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/sp#sp
GIGABYTE X570 Gaming X 12x50A ISL69147 (5+2) OnSemi 4c10n+4c06x2 2x M.2, 1GbE ISL6617 (5) ALC887 with Nippon Chemi-Con https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-GAMING-X-rev-10#kf

Xtreme fanless and almost everything is a heatsink on the board
Master has thermally conductive backplate
Fins-Array VRM Heatsink on all models except Elite and Gaming X



Audio spec wise $140 Sound BlasterX AE-5 with ESS SABER32 122dB SNR and WIMA caps $140, newer Sound Blaster AE-7 uses ESS 9018 SABRE DAC w/ WIMA caps $170
On paper the Aorus Exteme and Master has some very nice audio features. Can't wait to test.

 

[LazarusIV]

Yeah I got my Kit at MC as well. I think i'm going to go with a QVL supported kit, as I just want to set XMP and move on.

When I did some investigating into the many G.Skill 3600 kits, G.Skill make a nearly identical kit with CL18 (AMD) vs CL17 (Intel, what we have). I might give it one more try by loosening timings to see if its more compatible, but I really just want an XMP supported kit. To my understanding this kit should work, but x570 support is still too new to know for sure.

Can you send me a picture of the serial number sticker on the kit. I'll send it to my guys to see if they have that kit in house to test or can get it.

How's this?

 

[flyinion]

Xtreme fanless and almost everything is a heatsink on the board
Master has thermally conductive backplate
Fins-Array VRM Heatsink on all models except Elite and Gaming X


Let me know if I have anything wrong and I will try to fix it. Formatting didn't out how I wanted.
Audio spec wise $140 Sound BlasterX AE-5 with ESS SABER32 122dB SNR and WIMA caps $140, newer Sound Blaster AE-7 uses ESS 9018 SABRE DAC w/ WIMA caps $170
On paper the Aorus Exteme and Master has some very nice audio features. Can't wait to test.

Thanks for the info. Hmm yeah it looks like the Ultra is the lower quality VRM (if that matters for the 3900X). The upgraded audio is for sure nice, though I also have external DAC's already for my good headphones and my gaming headsets so it's not as big of an issue. I did get some pretty nice bookshelf speakers to set up a 2.1 config for when I don't run headphones though so the upgraded sound features wouldn't be a total waste, just no need for the headphone amps etc in them.

edit:
Also, I realized the Extreme is $700 not the $500'ish I was thinking so, yeah, that's out lol. Vs the Master that's the cost of my SSD's I was going to go with.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

How's this?

Works! Just sent to HQ to test.

 

[Jeff Drumheller]

Can you send me a picture of the serial number sticker on the kit. I'll send it to my guys to see if they have that kit in house to test or can get it.

I GOT IT TO POST XMP. I cannot believe this is what was causing it, but I had the memory in slots A1,B1 and they had to be in A2 B2 to post XMP. I cannot believe I overlooked this... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

 

[Nopileus]

I GOT IT TO POST XMP. I cannot believe this is what was causing it, but I had the memory in slots A1,B1 and they had to be in A2 B2 to post XMP. I cannot believe I overlooked this... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Boards with daisy chain memory layout are usually biased towards the slots further away from the socket, it's a shame the motherboard manual does not mention this. (it lists both variants as equivalent)

 

[flyinion]

So, I'm having a tough time trying to figure out a memory config if I go with one of these boards. I was planning to do a 2x16GB kit and usually buy GSKill. For DDR4-3600 though there is nothing in that config just 4x8GB kits. I read somewhere that ASrock was recommending only 2 slots populated if you go DDR4-3200 or faster though or the memory go down to 29xx with all 4 slots populated. There was some discussion but it sounded like that might almost be an AMD recommendation so I'm not sure what to do. I was looking at the Gigabyte QVL and there's a ton of high speed 4 dimm kits in it so it seems like it's not an issue for Gigabyte boards? I've also always heard that populating all the RAM slots caused performance/OC issues by putting more strain on the memory controllers but maybe that's not an issue now? I would do a 2x8GB kit but I want headroom for photoshop/etc. work.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

So, I'm having a tough time trying to figure out a memory config if I go with one of these boards. I was planning to do a 2x16GB kit and usually buy GSKill. For DDR4-3600 though there is nothing in that config just 4x8GB kits. I read somewhere that ASrock was recommending only 2 slots populated if you go DDR4-3200 or faster though or the memory go down to 29xx with all 4 slots populated. There was some discussion but it sounded like that might almost be an AMD recommendation so I'm not sure what to do. I was looking at the Gigabyte QVL and there's a ton of high speed 4 dimm kits in it so it seems like it's not an issue for Gigabyte boards? I've also always heard that populating all the RAM slots caused performance/OC issues by putting more strain on the memory controllers but maybe that's not an issue now? I would do a 2x8GB kit but I want headroom for photoshop/etc. work.

Memory is pretty trivial on X570. I wouldn't use so much of the old logic to apply to this platform. Yes 2 sticks is easier than 4, however 4 sticks @ 3600 is not hard at all. Here's my system with 4 sticks @ 3600. Just enabled XMP... It wasn't even a full 4 stick kit, I combine 2 seperate kits which is also (usually) more difficult.

 

[AlphaC]

If it's anything like the Elite... not much, the entire top half is just a slab of metal.
https://imgur.com/a/keft9Gs

I just got done setting up, the chipset fan is blaring at 3800rpm while at 45°C, not good at all.

Eh that's the VRM heatsink not PCH.


If you're talking about the PCH heatsink it probably just needs more fin area

 

[Jeff Drumheller]

Works! Just sent to HQ to test.

Matt - I had them in slots A1.B1, and when I moved them over to A2.B2 they posted XMP. The manual says both orientations should work, but later on says that A2.B2 for dual channel is suggested.

 

[Nopileus]

Eh that's the VRM heatsink not PCH.


If you're talking about the PCH heatsink it probably just needs more fin area

Scroll down, they're all in there.

It's just that a bit sad that there isn't more fins cut into this rather large block of metal, wasted potential.

The VRM heatsinks on the Elite aren't even a problem given the efficency of it, should be just about adequate for the high core count CPUs.

 

[flyinion]

Memory is pretty trivial on X570. I wouldn't use so much of the old logic to apply to this platform. Yes 2 sticks is easier than 4, however 4 sticks @ 3600 is not hard at all. Here's my system with 4 sticks @ 3600. Just enabled XMP... It wasn't even a full 4 stick kit, I combine 2 seperate kits which is also (usually) more difficult.

Thanks for the info that's encouraging to see. This is the first time I've bought memory for AMD systems since the early athlon days and my current system is a 4.5 year old Intel system with DDR3.


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[kamil234]

Here's mine running on aorus elite board:

Just took values from ryzen DRAM calculator. No issues with RAM, but the CPU is not boosting over 4.25Ghz, either on all, or single core. (Monitoring with Ryzen Master)

I tried with original BIOS, and the new BIOS that was released 2 or 3 days ago.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

Here's mine running on aorus elite board:

Just took values from ryzen DRAM calculator. No issues with RAM, but the CPU is not boosting over 4.25Ghz, either on all, or single core. (Monitoring with Ryzen Master)

I tried with original BIOS, and the new BIOS that was released 2 or 3 days ago.

What CPU?

 

[kamil234]

What CPU?

3900X

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

3900X

Might have to wait for new AGESA. Things I have heard that helped people, but haven't verified myself:

• Uninstall Ryzen Master

• Increase BCLK to 100.1

• Turn off XMP + PBO

• Try BIOS F4 + F5E.

If none of those work you in a holding pattern. Good news is gaming should be fine, since its almost all multi threaded.