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Yea Falk would be the man you want since you are using auto Vcore i use DVID myself just a question do you need the Dram voltage so high i always found 1.35V plenty for 3200mhz ?

Dropped ram v down to 1.36 and upped to 3600. Windows stable it seems. Now to test. Thanks for the info.
 

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Can someone explain to me why the bios feature "intel bios guard technology" is not found in my bios? Should I be contacting corporate? I have the sale lined up for my PC, unsure if I should complete it now.

Is there an official gigabyte guide or calculator for tuning acdc loadlines with auto voltage? I know what I need under load for all my clocks, just want to try it out instead of offset mode. Then i'll be gone for good.
 

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Thread cleaned. I should think it obvious but keep your personal matters out of a motherboard thread.
 

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get off of those ****ty beta bioses and newer bioses. All of them are trash and a waste of time, I tried ALL OF THEM, either old/wrong code or filled with bugs or new microcode that affects performance. I swear they just have us try this stuff because their own employees are too lazy to test **** themself. Not once has one these beta or newer bioses done a damn thing for me and they have me waste my time testing them all. I see users get best results with f9. Don't bother with any other bios, ever, unless they provide you evidence of proof of concept, otherwise you will be wasting your time.




F9 Original or F9 Modded?
 

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I would remove drives & switch main bios to backup bios(F7 if memory serves), let it boot then reset to defaults and shutdown.

Put drives in again, boot. if it works or symptoms change i would blame bios.

If it doesn't work i would blame the new drive, my Sabrent was DOA and stopped my main system drive from booting when it was installed.
Tried this and still no work. Only one of them is recognized. Tried with maximus xi formula - both of them are recognized. Seems like aorus master is defective -_-
 

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Guys I have not read all the thread but wondering if by now there is received wisdom about simply getting 2x8gb ddr4 to boot in dual channel mode. Perhaps whether there is a preferred bios revision. I have:

Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI LGA 1151 DDR4 ATX
Intel Core i5 9600K 3.7 GHz
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Yes this is on the memory support list

I am noticing that my cpu is not on the support list because it is 12MB L3 Cache, whereas the same CPU with only 9MB cache is supported. Would that be a cause for a problem. I should note everything else works with 2xddr in slots A1/A2 except fan speed control which does not show my Noctua's
 

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Guys I have not read all the thread but wondering if by now there is received wisdom about simply getting 2x8gb ddr4 to boot in dual channel mode. Perhaps whether there is a preferred bios revision. I have:

Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI LGA 1151 DDR4 ATX
Intel Core i5 9600K 3.7 GHz
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Yes this is on the memory support list

I am noticing that my cpu is not on the support list because it is 12MB L3 Cache, whereas the same CPU with only 9MB cache is supported. Would that be a cause for a problem. I should note everything else works with 2xddr in slots A1/A2 except fan speed control which does not show my Noctua's
With 2 dimm, you want to be in A2/B2, ie slots 2 and 4. A1/B1 works but not as well. If you are in A1/A2 with 2 dimm that is your problem.
 

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Thanks @ XGS-Duplicity for the tips on increasing my VCCIO/VCCSA.

I re-did my timings and I have managed to get this working with 6000% Kahru testing coverage.
My games runs much more stable now and that weird CTD with some games like Battlefront 2 is all gone.
I also managed to push my my ring to 4.8GHz. I can easily run 5.1Ghz and 5.2Ghz easily with 5.2Ghz needing 1.36V under High LLC and 5.1GHz needing 1.33V LLC. 5.0GHz can be done at 1.30V LLC.
For daily, I have finalized at 5.1GHz as I feel that is fast enough and games are under 70 degrees. 5.2GHz hit low 70s and felt it was not worth the added heat and voltage for something I can't feel when gaming.

VDIMM : 1.5V
VSSSA / VCCIO : 1.30V
BIOS : F11C

Think this is as far as I can go with my setup which has proved rock stable for the last 5 days of testing. All these while I think I have been running too low a VCCIO and VCCSA. These Gigabyte boards can be very frustrating to work with, sometimes you can pass Kahru and next powerup you can suddenly fail the memtest. I have rebooted my system endless of times with the new memory settings and voltages and so far none of them threw an error with repeated testing. This might just be my golden settings for now.

P.S - I am running 1 pair on A1 PCB and another pair on A2 PCB despite both being G.Skill 3600C16. I think that is why I had so much trouble trying to get stable my memory overclocks with my earlier settings which I think could be aggressive given they were not matched pairs.

Thank you so much for sharing this, I had very similar timings but at 4000mhz and with your settings I'm currently at 5700% on karhu stable, hopefully it's still working for me too in real life scenarios. Ram I'm using is the Patriot 4400 C19-19-19-38 kit with the F11c bios too :)

EDIT: Hit the magic 6400%
 

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Thanks @ XGS-Duplicity for the tips on increasing my VCCIO/VCCSA.

I re-did my timings and I have managed to get this working with 6000% Kahru testing coverage.
My games runs much more stable now and that weird CTD with some games like Battlefront 2 is all gone.
I also managed to push my my ring to 4.8GHz. I can easily run 5.1Ghz and 5.2Ghz easily with 5.2Ghz needing 1.36V under High LLC and 5.1GHz needing 1.33V LLC. 5.0GHz can be done at 1.30V LLC.
For daily, I have finalized at 5.1GHz as I feel that is fast enough and games are under 70 degrees. 5.2GHz hit low 70s and felt it was not worth the added heat and voltage for something I can't feel when gaming.

VDIMM : 1.5V
VSSSA / VCCIO : 1.30V
BIOS : F11C

Think this is as far as I can go with my setup which has proved rock stable for the last 5 days of testing. All these while I think I have been running too low a VCCIO and VCCSA. These Gigabyte boards can be very frustrating to work with, sometimes you can pass Kahru and next powerup you can suddenly fail the memtest. I have rebooted my system endless of times with the new memory settings and voltages and so far none of them threw an error with repeated testing. This might just be my golden settings for now.

P.S - I am running 1 pair on A1 PCB and another pair on A2 PCB despite both being G.Skill 3600C16. I think that is why I had so much trouble trying to get stable my memory overclocks with my earlier settings which I think could be aggressive given they were not matched pairs.

Thank you so much for sharing this, I had very similar timings but at 4000mhz and with your settings I'm currently at 5700% on karhu stable, hopefully it's still working for me too in real life scenarios. Ram I'm using is the Patriot 4400 C19-19-19-38 kit with the F11c bios too /forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

EDIT: Hit the magic 6400%
Congratulations mate! Happy that it has helped you. I'm still on those settings and couldn't be happier. Best of luck and take care!
 

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There's a setting in BIOS / Settings / Super IO Configuration / Serial Port (COM) with 2 options, Disabled or Enabled.
Enabled is the default value.

Where is this serial port located though and what does it do?
 

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There's a setting in BIOS / Settings / Super IO Configuration / Serial Port (COM) with 2 options, Disabled or Enabled.
Enabled is the default value.

Where is this serial port located though and what does it do?
The serial port is a really old legacy port on ancient computers. Like when they had printer ports (I belive they were 0x278h or 378h or something i Forgot).
The serial port is used for hardware debugging and low level access with probing tools. Just like on some computers (especially laptops), the "keyboard port" is used for communication or programming the "Embedded controller." This is all advanced chip programming access stuff completely over my head and totally off topic for this thread (you're better off finding a Linux hardware programming thread for stuff like this). That's why you see stuff like UART controls and modem protocols like BAUD and stuff still in some unlocked bioses.
 

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Hi everyone, long time lurker here!


Got myself a 9900k and an Aorus Pro Mobo, 32gb (16gb x 2) GSKILL F43200C15D-32GTZ, silverstone strider gold s 1500w PSU, Noctua NHD15 and was wondering if I could bend an ear to see what i am doing right/wrong with trying to OC this CPU to 5ghz?



I play games and use a lot of DAW software Abelton live/Audacity etc, stream on twitch and video/photo edit/Digitally Draw with Corel Draw/Video studio



I have set:



fixed Voltage of 1.35v idle 1.327

ring ratio 45
AVX offset 0
HT on
XMP set (3200)
All C states off
Intel Turbo, MCE, Speed Step etc off
BCLK adaptive off
SVID offset off
dram voltage auto
VCCIO 1.2v
system agent voltage 1.2v
race to halt off
ring to core offset off
voltage optimisation off
race to halt off
energy efficient turbo off
V-TD off
active turbo ratios off
turbo power limits off
LLC high




Just trying to see if I any have options left before I say I have a dud'ish chip that cant seem to pass any P95 with AVX/AVX 2 test without BSOD/Thermal throttling then crashing, Linpack Extreme only works for a minute or 2.

Even if i up the Vcore (1.37) and LLC to turbo still couldn't last long on LinpackEXT and P95 small worked but evenbtually hit temp limit which i set to 115c!



I can stress test cinebench r20, realbench 2.65, OCCT etc and any P95 test as long as there is no AVX of any kind involved, and pass an hour or so in each without any problems.



Are there any settings i have looked over?


If i cant get stable at P95 AVX/LinpackEXT is it a case of increase voltage or drop OC speed, or move on?



I have attached HWinfo screenshots of P95 no avx and Realbench 2.56 after 40min



Any help or advice would be appreciated, cheers
 

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I'd drop ring ratio to 43, that should let you drop voltage a bit. See if you can get closer to 1.35 with high LLC (Turbo is pretty rough).
 

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I'd drop ring ratio to 43, that should let you drop voltage a bit. See if you can get closer to 1.35 with high LLC (Turbo is pretty rough).

Thats what I have it set to lol, I am not stable in P95 AVX2/AVX and LinpakEXT, but am stable with realbench, cinebench, P95 small/large/blend no AVX.



I am going to wait to get a GPU and see if I am stable with games.


But going to drop ring ratio anyway after watching a Buildzoid Vid he recommended going 40!
 

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Thats what I have it set to lol, I am not stable in P95 AVX2/AVX and LinpakEXT, but am stable with realbench, cinebench, P95 small/large/blend no AVX.



I am going to wait to get a GPU and see if I am stable with games.


But going to drop ring ratio anyway after watching a Buildzoid Vid he recommended going 40!
Looked like you were at 45 per post, maybe a typo. It does appear to me that you are trying to high of a voltage. I know with my chip if I push it too high, its unstable at 5Ghz - basically anything over 1.27v at load. See if you can drop voltage and be more stable, my guess is those temperatures are just killing you. I also don't really think p95 is a useful stress test (I know others disagree) - try using the custom x264 blend test from the forum here. I find that to be a more realistic AVX workload.
 

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Looked like you were at 45 per post, maybe a typo. It does appear to me that you are trying to high of a voltage. I know with my chip if I push it too high, its unstable at 5Ghz - basically anything over 1.27v at load. See if you can drop voltage and be more stable, my guess is those temperatures are just killing you. I also don't really think p95 is a useful stress test (I know others disagree) - try using the custom x264 blend test from the forum here. I find that to be a more realistic AVX workload.
Sorry its my poor communication skills lol. What I originally meant Was that I am already at 1.35v, in my post I commented how even at 1.37v i was crashing/thermal limited on p95 avx tests.

Yeah I think I am right on the limit of my NHD15 coolers cooling capacity when I try small AVX at 1.37/1.38 it doesn't crash just workers stop because of temps, and I must say this all goes away when I disable HT! Also probably not helping that my case is a NZXT H440, not great airflow.

I kind of agree with P95 AVX and AVX 2 tests, I have reduced ring to 45 anyway, and VCCIO and System Agent Voltage to 1.2v, and its all pretty much the same, Cinebench, realbench work ok, so I know their AVX workloads are stable, any P95 test small/blend is stable just as long as i dont tick AVX, LinpackEXT crashes almost straightaway.

Also I have Active turbo ratios, turbo power limits and Turbo per core limit control disabled is that right???


I might actually re-flash Gigabytes older BIOS 6 something I believe, I am on the latest one 12.


edit - DId an AVX offset of 1 (i know its frowned upon!), did 20mins of P95 small with AVX and AVX2 enabled!! At 1.35v, temps on some cores 100c, load 1.238v average thats at 175amps, cpu package power 233w, core 3 crapped out after 10mins but looks like a small bump in voltage and i might be ok. Going to try for an hour blend with AVX/AVX2 enabled test, wish me luck!
 

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Guys can you tell me what’s considered the best modded bios for the Z390 Master?
Currently i’m using the F11C and everything is fine but i want to overclock my 9900k a little bit more, right now is sitting at 4,8 ghz at 1,27 vcore if i remember.

I tried some F10 version like a year ago but i was unable to Q flash any other official bios anymore i had to switch to the second bios and q flash both from there.
I was reading about Kedarwolf modded F11e and F11i, can anyone pls be so kind so link the page in this discussion where you can download them? Been looking for them for a while now right here and on google and i just can’t find the download link.
 

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Can you please update the attached BIOS for the Z390 Pro with latest versions of everything, and use fastest microcodes? Thanks in advance Kedar!
Howdy, everyone! Loooong time lurker and new OC'er to the Z390 Aorus Pro I nabbed used off the boyfriend during his recent rebuild.

I'm currently running a modded 10(b?) bios from one of @KedarWolf 's posts many tens/hundreds of pages back.

I wanted to re-engage Kedarwolf to see if you were available to modify the bios Sheyster requested a few weeks ago. No rush, of course :3

Thank you for the work you do, Kedarwolf!
 

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can someone tell me how to switch from legacy boot mode to uefi boot mode? Windows says i'm in legacy boot mode. I want to do a full complete wipe of windows 10 and install fresh with absolutely nothing left over from any previous installs. Just a fresh new windows. I don't know why, but when I reinstall windows from a usb iso, its reinstalling windows with settings/stuff from my old laptop even though i said no to carrying anything over. Also, there is this process running called "microsoft realtime network inspection" and windows won't let me end the process. It keeps saying access denied yet i'm the administrator. I don't really understand this. Also, is there a crash course or anything on what csm mode and secure boot mode are for the z390 master? Whats the difference between system and user mode in the bios?


Where can I find chipset drivers for windows 1809? They used to be listed on the aorus website, now they only list 1903 and 2004
 
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