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it doesn't take 15 minutes looking at my posts for someone to realise i really like linux mint.

that said, i am really getting annoyed with the release cycle. it's like, wait for the Ubuntu release, and then wait who knows how long for the devs at mint to get their act together. and it's even worse when you look at the non gnome variants. it's nice to have all the little things set up, and things like right-click for upload is useful but then again, it takes too long to update - it's almost as though it is hit or miss in terms of updates...

so should i go back to ubuntu or maybe look for a new home distro? and anyone suggesting i have to learn a new home distro will have to give me VERY compellng reasons to go with fedora and / or suse - the excperiences i have had with either of them have been less than appealing.
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I'm trying out Ubunto Ultimate when my desktop is up and running:

http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition-21/

looks really good
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I just did an Arch install. It was fun, but takes a while to get functioning. I would suggest getting a minimal distro like Arch and adding just what you need. It will take some work, but you can make it do whatever you want.

That said, Ubuntu is very polished and most mint things can be directly installed into Ubuntu with very little work.
The big advantage of Mint, as I understand it, is that a bunch of software people want is already installed. Of course, if you have Ubuntu you can install all of the same software yourself. This takes about 10 minutes, and that's if you don't know what the software is and you have to read a guide (like my Linux Software Guide below) to find it.
that's the thing. in the end it's just the little Mint specific features that are keeping me to Mint it seems.

i would love to get arch running, i did once, but really it is quite harrowing, especially as i got my mirrors wrongly configured so it took way too long. i think at this stage it's still too technical for me.

how about Debian? definitely looking into Ubuntu Ultimate but it looks too bloated. we'll see
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that's the thing. in the end it's just the little Mint specific features that are keeping me to Mint it seems.

Like what?
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right click on a file to upload it to the mint servers for 2 days
print to PDF though i don't use that often
MintUpdate
and the default theme
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right click on a file to upload it to the mint servers for 2 days
print to PDF though i don't use that often
MintUpdate
and the default theme

You could port the upload feature over to regular Ubuntu (probably to any Linux). Print to PDF is pretty universal.
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Yeah, the alpha release of Ubuntu 6 has made me wonder if I should try Ubuntu as well...I've only fooled around with Linux Mint so far.
Mint also has a central control center for maintenance of everything. This is something Ubuntu sorely lacks.
Since Mint is essentially Ubuntu with some extra features added, almost all the menus and control panels in mint can be used straight in Ubuntu. Mint wouldn't work on my new laptop once so I put on ubuntu and installed all the Mint menus since I like them better that the Ubuntu default ones.
I too struggled with using Mint when the Ubuntu 8.04 release was out. I then changed from Mint to Ubuntu and have used it ever since. Once you have it set to your likings then theres no point in having mint. I'm still not convinced that Ubuntu is the distro for me, but with our limited bandwidth and high bandwidth prices, downloading distros just to try them isn't an option.
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IMHO do whatever it takes not to go back to ubuntu. Do you really need the most up-to-date packages from ubuntu? If you are really worried about that, why not go with a rolling release distro? Arch, Gentoo, Sabayon, and Debian Sid all spring to mind. Of course there are others, but there are literally thousands of linux distros.

I really don't see the problem you are having. Do you just not like the release cycle? If that's the problem, you can build all the new packages from source yourself. That's what the mint devs do, then they package it up in a cute little binary and let you install it.
i'd go with arch but i'm not ready yet and it is not so easy to get around i have found. my main gripe is with the release cycle, though - it is too informal and not enforced well, and the repos take too long to update

any popular rolling release distros that don't need as much work as Arch out there? Sid seems too unstable for me... if all else fails i think i'll just end up installing arch for a second time
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