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· The Physical Manifestation of Typos
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I didn't realize how popular our database was
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And I suppose I should actually submit some WUs to this...
 

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We need someone with ample money to just buy one of each new GPU, fold with them for several weeks, and populate the Database.. That doesn't seem like too much to ask for
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If I win the lottery this weekend, your wish is my command!
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I'm holding you to it sir
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Those numbers don't look very good. Do you have an OC on that card?
 

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Okay sure. I haven't folded on my 7970 in quite some time now, so I guess I forgot the numbers
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Just submitted several WUs for my R9 Nano.
 

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Just pushed the OC on my Nano to 1020. Snagged a 400k PPD WU. Submitted.
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My hunch is that people who decided to put their GPU under water may see numbers closer to 1.4M or even 1.5M.
 

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I fold (for another team though) But I can test today and see what sort of PDD I get with my GTX 1080TI under water if people are interested!
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Like the others have said, please submit your data! And if you know anyone else who has data they'd like to submit, please send them this way. The more information we can get, the better.
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· The Physical Manifestation of Typos
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Hi guys,

I just started folding over the past few days and I have some questions, if you would be kind enough to answer.

I'm currently folding with:

2 x 480
1 x 470
2 x 570
1 x 580

Windows 10
[email protected] - Curecoin/Foldingcoin

However my PPD is fairly low - 1,100,000 or so. I'm not folding with my CPU at all.

I've read the forum and a lot of people are getting 250-300k PPD for these GPU's.

1) Does anyone have any ideas about why this is so low and how I can speed it up? Any tricks in the client itself or coding?

2) What is more important when it comes to overclocking for more PPD? Memory or Core?

3) Does changing the timing straps of a cards bios have any impact on the PPD?

4) Are the PPD predictions in the client actually accurate?

If someone would be kind enough to offer some advice or answers, you would make my day. I'd be extremely grateful.
1- Typically the higher PPDs for those cards are because of overclocking.
2- The core clocks are typically more important. From my experience, the memory clocks have had little to no affect on the PPD output.
3- For this one, I am not quite sure. Paging @navjack27 for assistance!
4- They are usually within about 10k PPD of the actual numbers. I would strongly suggest that you set up HFM for more accurate PPD calculations and WU logging.

That's the other thing, some of the Work Units have a significantly higher PPD output than others. It's a bit of a lottery in that regards.

Oh, and welcome to OCN!
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Specs of the rest of the computer? FAH does need some bandwidth on the PCI-E lane and there is a steady drop in performance each step down in lanes and PCI-E version.
That is a good point, could you please provide more information on about your folding rig(s)?
 

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Cheers for the welcome and answers to both of you, @Simmons572 and @mmonnin =)

It's a pretty average mining set up.

CPU - G3900
Motherboard - Asus Z170A
Memory - 8 GB Ram
Hard Drive - M.2 WD Green 120GB
PSU - Superflower 1200W (Power Draw from wall is 800W)

I've disabled 5 of the cards and I'm only using my 570 right now, which I've overclocked slightly to 1350 on the core. The PPD is still only 220k~, which although not terrible is still 20-30% less than I'd really expect. The reported PPD of a 470 on the front page is 264k - I'd really hope a 570 with a decent overclock would beat that.

I've been mining Eth for quite a while, but due to the difficulty started looking into other coins and found folding. Still trying to decide which to focus on, so every % helps.

Have either of you had much luck playing around with voltages? Temperatures are quite a bit higher than Eth mining (Although strangely the power use is around the same). I may look into underclocking the memory to solve this.

It's difficult to run "Trail & Error" tests when, as you said, each WU can be very different and needing a 24 hour window to get a real idea of the situation. As a result every little bit of info helps.

Thanks for your answers and help, I appreciate it guys =)

Edit: Thanks also to @navjack27. I think I'll flash the bios of the cards and try underclocking memory to see what results I can get. Hopefully lower temps and faster PPD.
Ah well that definitely explains part of the issue. Unlike mining, folding thrives with better PCIe bandwidth. I would strongly suggest that you take the 580 and x2 480s and plug them directly into the x16 slots. Granted the 3rd GPU would be a bit restricted due to the 4x slot limitation, but it would be better than the 1x risers you are probably using (my appologies if I am making assumptions).

In regards to the temps, your temps from folding will be similar to your temps from mining. These AMD GPUs can be fairly temperature sensitive, so the lower your temps, the better your OCing headroom can be.

I personally have not played around with custom voltages and vbios's. All of my OCing has ever been done using MSI Afterburner in Win10, so my knowledge is a bit limited in that department.

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As a little aside, if you decide that you want to keep folding 24/7, and you are in it for the long-haul, you may want to consider joining the Team Competition. We can get you more information about that later if you are interested
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As for joining the team, to earn Curecoin you have to mine and contribute to their team, so unfortunately I can't =(

I edited a spelling mistake and the post was "Under review from moderation team". Woops.
Nah I understand!

Also, in regards to the folding team, that is specifically for the OCN Team Competition, so it won't be approved. Don't worry about it too much.
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Hey all. I'm trying to help a friend with getting his 1080Ti to perform better in folding. He's feeding it with a stock clocked 3930k ATM.
The problem I noticed with his system is, it will absolutely not go above 85 to 95% power usage of the card, even when set to 120% in afterburner.
It will properly limit the power when set below 85%. The cards clocks are all set to +0, told him not to overclock for folding. He has a founders edition card.

I tried changing the affinity of FahCore_21.exe to use only the physical cores, but no luck. This symptom makes me think there is some kind of bottle neck in the system.
His PPD is arround 950,000. I see most people are hitting an average of 1,200,000.

Any help with this problem would be great.
Hey there!

I would keep an eye on it over the next couple days. Various work units have different levels of GPU usage and PPD output, so what you are describing sounds normal.
Also, Overclocking the GPU will give you much higher PPD. If you bump up the clock speeds on the GPU, you will most likely gain an additional 100-200k PPD.
 

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Not yet, a bunch of us are eagerly waiting to see what they put out .
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Some WUs don't really show the difference between the OSs, but some do. I'd recommend setting up HFM to monitor your WUs, as it captures the actual submitted values.
 

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Some WUs don't really show the difference between the OSs, but some do. I'd recommend setting up HFM to monitor your WUs, as it captures the actual submitted values.
Hand foot and mouth disease? What's HFM?
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HFM.NET is a software that logs WUs. You can use it to monitor multiple computers at once, which can be very handy.
It also keeps a log of completed WUs, which is what a lot of users use when reporting WUs to this database
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http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/750355-HFM-NET-v0-9-2-712-Now-Compatible-with-FAH-v7-4-4
 

· The Physical Manifestation of Typos
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Do you have an OC on your 1070ti?
 

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This database is manually maintained by @TheBlademaster01 , so it may take a few days for it to actually get added :eek:
 

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Two questions
Does [email protected] have error-checking built in? If I am running an unstable overclock, I don't want to 'taint' the results from bad crunching. As far as I can tell, my overclock is stable.
And can I earn more PPD by doing Advance/Beta WUs? Or should I just leave everything to default

Just trying to get the most (useful) PPD out of my card.
To an extent yes. If your OC is unstable, it will reject the WU completely.

Most of us leave our clients set to Default. Beta can be hit or miss, as you can get newer WUs, but some of them don't work at all. It's worth experimenting with, if you are interested.
 

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^^ thank you for the thorough explanation! +10 if I could. where's our damn rep system?
Still hecked up :rolleyes:

Thanks for submitting these WU's folks! And congrats jpm for submitting the first 2M PPD WU! :applaud:
 
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