Seems like this would be a good time for those stackable radiators, granted I know nothing about water cooling.....
GTX 360 enough for I7 + 2x 295's?
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I don't think 1 gtx360 is going to be enough to keep those components cool. The i7 generates lots of heat, and the gtx295 isn't any better, let alone two of them. You can strap a double rad on the back of the case with the 2 fans inside pushing through it or mod the bottom of the case to fit another rad pulling in air from under the case.
Ideally, you would probably want to run two loops for this setup. The best suggestion would be to get another case! If budget is unlimited there are a host of cases that will accommodate the cooling needs you're looking for with room to spare. I know people want what they want (I deal with customers all day as well), but you might want to suggest some other cases as an alternative (Silverstone TJ07 comes to mind
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Ideally, you would probably want to run two loops for this setup. The best suggestion would be to get another case! If budget is unlimited there are a host of cases that will accommodate the cooling needs you're looking for with room to spare. I know people want what they want (I deal with customers all day as well), but you might want to suggest some other cases as an alternative (Silverstone TJ07 comes to mind
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It needs to be 100% internal sadly.
He is a college student, and moves quite a lot, I personally would not trust an external system to frequent moves.
Originally Posted by Juggalo23451  i would go with a feser 480 rad if he plans to over clock. or get 2 360 feser rads http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/fex360mmxtpe.html |
He is a college student, and moves quite a lot, I personally would not trust an external system to frequent moves.
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Actually it is a fairly nice case. I can easily fit a Black Ice GTX 360 up top, and can almost fit a 3x 140.
I believe I am going to try and push him into getting just one 295, and if that doesn't work, then the last resort option is to try and mount a 240 radiator off the back, so it would go like this:
MCP-655 -> GTX 360 -> CPU block -> GTX 240 on the back -> GPU 1->GPU2->reservoir -> back to pump.
Originally Posted by ChielScape cant fit 2 rads in that hunk of plastic? |
I believe I am going to try and push him into getting just one 295, and if that doesn't work, then the last resort option is to try and mount a 240 radiator off the back, so it would go like this:
MCP-655 -> GTX 360 -> CPU block -> GTX 240 on the back -> GPU 1->GPU2->reservoir -> back to pump.
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That would work. Take a look at Martins rad calc's.Radiator Thermals and Radiator Calculators by Martin ..There is a 480GTX in them. Punch in your heat dump in watts and fan RPM that you want to use. A little bar graph will pop up on the bottom, thats your rad out water temp to room ambient. You want to keep that at 5C and under for decent OC'ing performance. Theres a shroud option in there to, shrouds will give you up to a 20% performance gain if you have the room for them.
I don't know the Delta RPM but a 86cfm Pana is 2000 and the 115cfm Pana is 2750 RPM.
The 480 calc will at least give you and idea of how a 360 will perform, maybe use a 360 and tuck a 120 in somewhere if you can get away with it.
Originally Posted by trueg50 Actually it is a fairly nice case. I can easily fit a Black Ice GTX 360 up top, and can almost fit a 3x 140. I believe I am going to try and push him into getting just one 295, and if that doesn't work, then the last resort option is to try and mount a 240 radiator off the back, so it would go like this: MCP-655 -> GTX 360 -> CPU block -> GTX 240 on the back -> GPU 1->GPU2->reservoir -> back to pump. |
I don't know the Delta RPM but a 86cfm Pana is 2000 and the 115cfm Pana is 2750 RPM.
The 480 calc will at least give you and idea of how a 360 will perform, maybe use a 360 and tuck a 120 in somewhere if you can get away with it.
>fairly nice case
>thermaltake
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Just tested the 480 rad. estimator out, and it looks like just the 480 would nearly be enough, so a 360+240 seems like it should work fairly well.
I doubt the 295's will be overclocked, and the CPU he just wants to hit 4.0 ghz, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.
Originally Posted by ira-k That would work. Take a look at Martins rad calc's.Radiator Thermals and Radiator Calculators by Martin ..There is a 480GTX in them. Punch in your heat dump in watts and fan RPM that you want to use. A little bar graph will pop up on the bottom, thats your rad out water temp to room ambient. You want to keep that at 5C and under for decent OC'ing performance. Theres a shroud option in there to, shrouds will give you up to a 20% performance gain if you have the room for them. I don't know the Delta RPM but a 86cfm Pana is 2000 and the 115cfm Pana is 2750 RPM. The 480 calc will at least give you and idea of how a 360 will perform, maybe use a 360 and tuck a 120 in somewhere if you can get away with it. |
I doubt the 295's will be overclocked, and the CPU he just wants to hit 4.0 ghz, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.
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Cool. Those rad calc's are nice, the 480GTX is almost dead on with what I get on mine.
Originally Posted by trueg50 Just tested the 480 rad. estimator out, and it looks like just the 480 would nearly be enough, so a 360+240 seems like it should work fairly well. I doubt the 295's will be overclocked, and the CPU he just wants to hit 4.0 ghz, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue. |
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What about an external keg with a disconnect? Could set his computer on top of it.
Originally Posted by trueg50 It needs to be 100% internal sadly. He is a college student, and moves quite a lot, I personally would not trust an external system to frequent moves. |
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That was definitely a consideration, however I can't find any place selling WaterKegs, I also don't really have to equipment to make a metal one.
Managed to talk him into "only" 1 295, so now it is just an I7 and 295 in the loop for the GTX 360.
Originally Posted by nub What about an external keg with a disconnect? Could set his computer on top of it. |
Managed to talk him into "only" 1 295, so now it is just an I7 and 295 in the loop for the GTX 360.
"only 1 gtx295" lol
That setup should be much more manageable. Sounds like a reasonable plan...
The question now is, what fans to use
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That setup should be much more manageable. Sounds like a reasonable plan...
The question now is, what fans to use
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Just this past weekend I installed some Delta AFB1212SHE's onto my radiator, and at 7 volts they are really fairly quiet, and move a good amount of air. So I will probably pick up a few of those, and use 3 on the radiator (at 7 volts) and perhaps replace some case fans with them.
Originally Posted by javier "only 1 gtx295" lol That setup should be much more manageable. Sounds like a reasonable plan... The question now is, what fans to use
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159CFM @ 3700 RPM at 12 volts, and I have no idea how much it moves at 7 volts, all I know is that they move more air at less noise than my 86/105 CFM Panaflo's at 7volts.
I will be powering it off 1 molex connector, so it should be pretty easy to slap a fan controller on it if performance/noise is low.
Originally Posted by javier 7 volts on a gtx? Are you sure that'll be enough. Those rads are really dense. I had to run my san aces at more than 7v to get reasonable results on my bix240 |
I will be powering it off 1 molex connector, so it should be pretty easy to slap a fan controller on it if performance/noise is low.
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