Well I seem to be having some problem with my 470 during games. In Furmark it doesn't seem to break 90-95c, but when I start up Crysis, or Mafia 2 my card seems to overheat and then I'll crash to desktop and check HWMonitor and MSI AB, just now it reported 109c. The card is at stock clocks and I've even tried replacing the TIM with mx-3. Should I just return the card and go to my spare GTX460?
Originally Posted by DisappointMe
Well I seem to be having some problem with my 470 during games. In Furmark it doesn't seem to break 90-95c, but when I start up Crysis, or Mafia 2 my card seems to overheat and then I'll crash to desktop and check HWMonitor and MSI AB, just now it reported 109c. The card is at stock clocks and I've even tried replacing the TIM with mx-3. Should I just return the card and go to my spare GTX460?
are you having the fan on auto ? if yes grab msi afterburner please
Originally Posted by DisappointMe
Well I seem to be having some problem with my 470 during games. In Furmark it doesn't seem to break 90-95c, but when I start up Crysis, or Mafia 2 my card seems to overheat and then I'll crash to desktop and check HWMonitor and MSI AB, just now it reported 109c. The card is at stock clocks and I've even tried replacing the TIM with mx-3. Should I just return the card and go to my spare GTX460?
How is the airflow in your case?
What are your idle temps? have you increased the fan speed at all?
Crysis shouldnt run as hot as Furmark in my experience at least. It probably does require lots more VRAM which could be the reason why your card is getting hot. Something might be wrong with the VRAM. This is only speculation on my part. Do you get artifacts?
100c is unacceptable for stock voltages.
I would return the card and get a new one and save yourself the hassle of troubleshooting.
I was going to say bad sensor but you said that your computer crashes when it reaches 100. This leads me to believe that the sensor is not faulty
Holy crap...100 celsius?! At 70% fan speed? That's crazy.
Now unless your case has absolutely the worst airflow known to man (or none at all), then there is NO WAY that those are normal temps.
There have been quite a few people here on OCN who have posted similar threads about Fermis running WAY hotter than the norm, and in most of those cases those people RMA'd/returned their card and got one that was fine and had much better/normalized temps. I'd suggest that you do the same, OP...save yourself the hassle, time and the worrying.
Just for reference, my top-slotted 470 that's starved for air because of my SLI/Tri-Card setup never even comes close to 90 celsius at 75% fan speed, and I've got it overclocked to 790/1580/1800 @ 1.050 mV.
DO NOT run any other HW monitoring program with AFB or Precision. This has happened to me a couple times now. What happens is with more than one program polling the GPU something bugs out and freezes the fan speed to a much to low value. I had my 480 to 108c 3 times before I figured this out. It happens at random to not every time
If that is your case then it might be airflow. I am sorry to tell you but with only 1 80mm fan as exhaust is not going to cut it for any graphics card of the modern era.
Still that is a bit hot might be a bad seat if you re-timmed it. Maybe redo it if you have not already. Then send it RMA.
OMG someone put a 470 in that?????? hm.... toasty..... i mean it could be done with some mods so it had more fans....... but stock......... even with the sides off
This may be nit-picking but running a hot card like the gtx 470 in that case you have is worrisome, either should have gone w/ a bigger case or a cooler card imo. my cards easily hit 70-80c while gaming w/ fan speed @ 60%. With that small htpc case, the air inside is going to warm up really quick and your gtx 470 will have a hard time cooling itself. have you tried running it outside to see what happends? if you dont have any improvements it could be a bad card, if you do, I would highly suspect not enough airflow in your case. good luck
Im confident that its HWmonitor and AFB running at the same time. Its some kinda polling bug that overheats the card by either stopping the fan or freezing it to low RPM's. No other software capable of polling the GPU should be running with afterburner. This is somewhat of a common issue that I have not only read about several times now but experienced myself
Guys, I already said I have the side-panels taken off the case. And the 80mm exaust was swapped out for a Scythe S-Flex (the 2.8k rpm one).
Edit - I'll try out your solution Captain
Originally Posted by Captain318
Im confident that its HWmonitor and AFB running at the same time. Its some kinda polling bug that overheats the card by either stopping the fan or freezing it to low RPM's. No other software capable of polling the GPU should be running with afterburner. This is somewhat of a common issue that I have not only read about several times now but experienced myself
Hmm I had run them simultaneously when i had my 470 and had no problems, first i have heard of this. Is it with newer versions of hwmonitor and msi ?ab
Originally Posted by Gnomepatrol
Hmm I had run them simultaneously when i had my 470 and had no problems, first i have heard of this. Is it with newer versions of hwmonitor and msi ?ab
I wish I knew. It also happens at random for some and constantly for others. I even caught it starting to happen with my other rig which uses a 470 and back when I had my 5870 something similar would happen if I had GPU-z and AFB open only the fan wasn't affected but the card would overvolt and VRM's would get scortching hot and GSOD the card
So far with my 470 and 480 it seems to only happen when a fan curve is set in AFB or the new Precision and then I have Everest or HWMon etc open aswell. If I lock in a fan speed of say 80% the issue will never arise.
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