[james73084]

I don have alot of time to post but this is my only chance at post it tonight.

Getting into the niddy griddy here I just purchased a new rig. It consists of the parts as follows.

P8P67 Deluxe

Intel core i7 2600k at right now 3.40 GHZ

G.Skill 8gb ripjaw x ddr3

one gtx 560 superclocked (came sced atlready)

Ralink RT61 Turbo network card

Coolermaster silent pro 1000w gold PSU

Collermaster HAF X Blue edition that does include all fans even the optional top 200mm fan.

With this here is my problems. Currently I have windos 7 x64 bit and its WORKING. What the issue is, is that my network card WILL NOT stay connected to the WRT54G router we have. This card was in my olders system and it worked fine. Also, I cant download anything as it just times out as well as looking at internet stuff. Also my ping will shoot up to over 22k in Ventrilo so I cant even use that to talk to my friends.

My only other issue is that I am getting HIGH TEMP cpu problems upon bootup. I press F1 and it starts windows 7 x64 bit normally. When i get into windows I check the following programs one at a time to see. Note that TUBO BOOST and TPU on my mobo are ON but nothing changing on my cpu, it isnt getting any boost at all and is right now stuck at the stock speed of 3.40 GHZ.

In the Bios it shows my system at 80C OR HIGHER however, in windows on THREE different programs it shows my system at

27C-38C, this is not under load settings as I cant put anything on my computer yet until the network thing gets fixed.

I hve the updated bios on the MOBO, my wife's computer is running fine on the internet that we have so it appears to be my new compy. It is really idaaspointing that its going to crap because I spent over 1.3k on this system and I cant even brows the net at a decent speed. I also have the correct drivers for my NIC card so I realyl dont know what could be happening with my system. Other then that, my rig is working perfectly.

 

[iDaryl]

IMO ditch the network card.the mobo has it anyway.onboard is good enough....also....you used realtemp for temperature?i think it's impossible for you to hit 80c with stock settings.do you have an aftermarket heatsink/cooler or do you use stock?you might want to reseat it, or use a better thermal compound if you're that worried.

 

[Lost Hawaiian]

Well, to start back to front and address the temp issue first...I didn't really read thoroughly since I haven't experienced it myself, but I know i've seen at least a couple of threads here pertaining to incorrect CPU temp readings in BIOS. One person was saying that it reported 70-80C temps and yet when he touched the heatsink it was cool. You might search around a little on that, but I think it's a non-issue.

With your connectivity problem, can you give a little more detail as far as what type of router and modem and how everything's linked? As far as the connection you can get...is it just slow, drops out intermittently, or no connection at all? It sounds like it's more your settings than a hardware issue to me, but with a little more info I think it's solveable.

Rich

 

[james73084]

ok now that i am at home. the router is wrt54gs made by linksys. i cant download anything really, it is still trying to load a website right now after 20 minutes. it was working fine before, yesterday on my old computer, but it is not working on this new one. i am pretty sure that i have all the new drivers for the ralink card. i would use the onboard one, but i need a wireless card for me to have the internet in my house. the router is located in another room of the house. my wife's computer is seeing the internet fine and is having no issues. we are thinking about trying to switch cards and see if that helps anything. the memory i have is 4g x 2 g.skill fs-10666clsd-8gbxh, these are running at stock, could this be a reason for me to be going so slow? Also, its shows that I am connected to the internet, it somtimes drops, it goes REALLY slow and around halfway from loading this website it gave the normal error or not being able to find it. It has not dropped connection yet as I have been home for 30 minutes but I will keep you updated. When I try and download somthing it got to 23% in adobe and then told me it timed out totally, using adobe as an example.

still showing 70-80C is the BIOS, going to try reseating it. i use arctic silver 5 thermal paste and i am using a stock CPU cooler. temperature programs used: CPUID hw monitor, speedfan, and AI SUITE 2

a new devopement happened when i got home. when i booted the computer is said that the overclock failed please enter setup. i think this was due to the CPU being seen as 81C by the BIOS. i did cllick the overclock easy mode button in the BIOS and my tpu switch is on currently and the cpu is at 3.40ghz stock still. it wouldnt boot to windows 7 64 with the asus easy mode oc button clicked.

 

[Lost Hawaiian]

To be honest, I have no personal experience with overclocking, so I'm going to stay out of that aspect of it.

With regards to the temp reading in BIOS. Have you felt your CPU to see if it's hot? If it really is that temp, you'll be able to feel it.

As far as your connectivity issues...How far is your PC from the router, and what's in between? It sounds more like you're just getting a poor signal than anything else. Normally I would say check all your TCP/IP settings, but it should be easy to check the signal first.

I would try moving your PC next to your router to see if you can eliminate signal loss as the problem, then go from there. Sometimes I run into similar problems on my laptop when I'm at the far end of the house from the router.

Is your wife's PC on wireless also, and if so, how far is it from the router? Once you've eliminated the signal as the problem, I would check your network settings. You did say that this is a card you've used before and it was working fine? Were all the other conditions the same as far as where your PC is located? I think that the problem is in one of these two things, signal or settings...

Rich

 

[james73084]

I just reseated the CPU and its telling me the same thing. We didnt use alt of thermal paste, probably 2 drops and spread it around over the whole cpu. It still is telling me right now that I am at 87 degreesC

. It really sucks to have a 1.3k paper weight.

Reguarding the PCI card, yes I used this exact same pci card in my old rig and it worked fine. It is telling me that I have great signal strength. My wife is alittle closer to the router and has as good signal strength to me.

As far as where the router is, Its in my spare bedroom. If you were to draw a straight line from my computer to the router you would have my couch, loveseat, my wife's computer, and 2 walls between us and the router yet her computer is running rock solid and mine isnt able to allow me to do anything on the internet what so ever.

 

[james73084]

I just touched the heatsink while the compy is on and it doesnt feel hot at all really so I really dont know if this is some stupid issue with the MOBO and its bad or if this could be a CPU issue and that would need to be RMAed.

 

[munaim1]

First and foremost forget what temps the bios is reading because the cpu is not idling in the bios.

Secondly I use realtemp, you could try coretemp aswell, they should give you the best indication of what the temps really are.

A small uncooked grain of rice is the best method of applying TIM, that and pressure of the heatsink should do the trick. Still not sure what cooler you are using?

Regarding the network card

whats wrong with the onboard? IIRC the Deluxe has 2 LAN ports.

 

[james73084]

The lan ports are not wiereless thats the issue with that.

Ill try the thing your recommending to look. Also, I am going to reset the cpu again and make sure the heatsink is correctly on. I am using the stock cooling unit and if this doesnt work, I will probably be forced to RMA the board and CPU back.

 

[james73084]

Realtemp is showing all 4 cpu cores btween 40-55C

 

[iDaryl]

that's good enough.maintain it below 70c for 24/7 usage

 

[james73084]

The problem is that the bios is telling me that it is well over 80c. Even with a stock cooler my Q9650 never got above 65c, nor did i ever get high temp errors every boot up. Not to mention that if this cant be OCed then there isnt any point in even having a k version.

 

[Lost Hawaiian]

I've been scouring the interwebs to find out more about your NIC card. From what I've found there are several issues that seem to be recurring:

1) Direct conflict with routers because of DHCP settings.
2) Crashes on systems with greater than 4GB RAM (due to drivers).
3) Driver problems with Win 7.

Problems 2 and 3 seem to be much more common. I did find an old thread that seems to have some good suggestions.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...7-8619b399f2c9
Basically it seems that depending on your specific setup, you need to have a particular driver (not necessarily the latest), as that's a very finicky card.

Again, I have no personal experience with this card...just trying to do a little research for ya...

Hope this helps,

Rich

 

[james73084]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost Hawaiian I've been scouring the interwebs to find out more about your NIC card. From what I've found there are several issues that seem to be recurring: 1) Direct conflict with routers because of DHCP settings. 2) Crashes on systems with greater than 4GB RAM (due to drivers). 3) Driver problems with Win 7. Problems 2 and 3 seem to be much more common. I did find an old thread that seems to have some good suggestions. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...7-8619b399f2c9 Basically it seems that depending on your specific setup, you need to have a particular driver (not necessarily the latest), as that's a very finicky card. Again, I have no personal experience with this card...just trying to do a little research for ya... Hope this helps, Rich

It does help. This was my birthday gift from my whole family and we are now considering RMAin the mobo back and totally getting another brand such as an EVGA P67 FTW and get a new card. I am looking for a PCIEx1 slot card that will be compatable with my WTR54GS Router so any info on that would be helpful.

My wife really just wants to rma the board back as it isnt working and producing the correct temps in the BIOS. We are holding off until monday to start the process, so if we can all just work together to fix it before then that would make me really happy. Thanks for all the help. The other computer is just sitting in the bios right now as it has been for the past 2 hours sitting at 87c

 

[james73084]

My question reguarding RMAing stuff is this

Could the CPU Its self be defective?

I dont want to RMA a new board just to get it and see that its also being stupid all becuse the CPU Was faulty

 

[james73084]

bump for more help. I am going to be reseating my heatsink again and see if it lowers the temp in the bios today.

 

[munaim1]

you really need to forget what the bios temp is reading. Could you please update your system spec so that I don't have to keep going back and forth to see what your running.

DONT rma the cpu just yet, im confident that both the cpu and mobo are fine but need a little more info like what bios are you running?

 

[james73084]

Going to update the system specs right now for you. I am running the latest bios that is out 1850 on the mobo. We arnt rmaing anything yet i just just wondering if the cpu its self could be faulty.

 

[james73084]

So here is the latest on the situation.

We just reseated the headsink and cpu again. This time, we took a piece of paper towel, wiped all of the paste away and started over. We proceeed to put one dab onto the CPU its self, it was as big as one piece of uncooked long grain rice. Please note that the last two times we spread it around the whole spu, this time we didnt and just placed the HS&F over the small dab and locked it in place. Upon entering the bios, it started at around 54c and went all the way up to 67c before we exited the bios and went into windows.

At this point checking Realtemp it currently shows my cpu running at 33-37MAX c in idle. I checked the internet and still no go on that end. Im going to go into the bios and let it sit there for a little bit to see if it rises in temp.

My next question is this, the TPU switch is on, so my mobo should be overclocking for me correct? I would like to get my rig to go to around 3.8GHZ with the stock fan and HS on using the intel turbo boost thing which is also turned on but it isnt doing anyting and my cpu is still at 3.40 ghz.

 

[james73084]

In the bios I did click the asus optimal settings button which upon restart, did start into windows without a high temp warning but yielded no results when it came to my cpu runing at anything other then the regular speed of 3.40ghz.

I did look into some application called the suite 2 by asus and there is an autotuning program in there that i guess will oc my cpu but im afraid to use it. Any help in this reguard would be appriciated as well as any information reguarding my stupid nic card that says it has FULL signal yet im lagging when it comes to anyting that involves the interenet.