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Hey all. Before you start flaming me for being a noob, etc, etc, please answer this knowing that I'm very precautionate about these kind of things, and like to be in the know. I am posting this to gain knowledge, and hopefully some others will learn.

Alright, onto the question:

The 360, PS3, Wii, etc, all boast HD-technology, right? Well. How about games such as CSS, COD2, etc, and all the latest high-end graphics games that are out now? Are they in HD?

I know that the resolutions for HD are:

720p - 1280x720
1080 i/p - 1920x1080

And I know that if you run a 360, for example, in these resolutions on a PC monitor, you will be viewing the picture in High Definition.

But if I took a recent game and set the resolution to 1280x720, for example, would I be viewing the game in High Definition? Or does the system work differently for PC games - is every resolution in HD?

My graphics card said on the box 'Enjoy an intense HD Gaming Experience' - yet I haven't seen any games boast 'HD Compatible', etc, on their boxes.

I need someone to clear my head of this with an indepth answer. Thankyou in advance to who can put me out of my mind on this issue.

- John.
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I believe that all current games on the PC are HD..

I mean, isn't that all HD is? Higher resolution?
pcs have been displaying "hi def" resolutions for alot longer than the tvs have been around, normal television resolution is 480p. So in answer to your question, yes, a 1080i/p tv displays at 1920x1080, and you can display that resolution on your pc monitor, however, you can display resolution higher than that on your computer if you have a good enough video card.
Alright, so what you're saying is that even though I run my games in 1440x900, that's still displayed in HD?
..actually i too want to know this..i mean on the pc do games have to be run at 1920x1080 to be considered HD..or are they HD at any fairly high resolution..because HD is really just the higher resolutions..isnt it?
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Well, 720p is at 1280x720. And that isn't that high. But it isn't a very high HD rating at that.

It confuses me alot, this subject, because, we don't notice whether our games are HD or not - because it becomes second nature.
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..actually i too want to know this..i mean on the pc do games have to be run at 1920x1080 to be considered HD..or are they HD at any fairly high resolution..because HD is really just the higher resolutions..isnt it?


Yes. When you're talking about PC games, don't worry about the "HD" label. That's all marketing hype reserved for TVs because legacy TVs had such poor resolution. We PC gamers blew through the so-called "HD resolutions" years ago. Who doesn't play games in at least 1024x768 these days? Which is higher res that 720p.

The real difference is that, on a TV, there are only a handful of standard resolutions that are considered HD. You guys have already posted them, and they are all widescreen. On a PC, obviously we can set many more resolutions. But as long as you set up at least 720 lines of resolution, you're equalling or exceeding the minimum to be considered "HD".
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That cleared it up perfectly. Thankyou very much Vulcan.
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Yes. When you're talking about PC games, don't worry about the "HD" label. That's all marketing hype reserved for TVs because legacy TVs had such poor resolution. We PC gamers blew through the so-called "HD resolutions" years ago. Who doesn't play games in at least 1024x768 these days? Which is higher res that 720p.

The real difference is that, on a TV, there are only a handful of standard resolutions that are considered HD. You guys have already posted them, and they are all widescreen. On a PC, obviously we can set many more resolutions. But as long as you set up at least 720 lines of resolution, you're equalling or exceeding the minimum to be considered "HD".

You only left out one thing that the game has to be before it can be considered HD. You have to have it in widescreen. The HD standard is 16x9 so if you are using a 4x3 resolution you are not in true HD.
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You only left out one thing that the game has to be before it can be considered HD. You have to have it in widescreen. The HD standard is 16x9 so if you are using a 4x3 resolution you are not in true HD.
Doesn't have to be widescreen to be considered "High Definition". Resolution is all that matters. HDTV on the other hand is in 16:9 format.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television
High-definition television (HDTV) is a television broadcasting system with a significantly higher resolution than traditional formats (NTSC, SECAM, PAL) allow.
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the current HDTV standards are defined in ITU-R BT.709 as 1080 active interlaced or progressive lines, or 720 progressive lines, using a 16:9 aspect ratio
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television
So, since I run 16:10, it isn't considered HD? Or is it still alright since its bigger than 16:9?
I'm running somthing like 1208 by 1024 or something around those numbers ( very very close), Someone said that if your running greater that 720 lines or something on a screan, then your HD? Is this true? And am I running HD? DO I have to change a setting on my card?
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So, since I run 16:10, it isn't considered HD? Or is it still alright since its bigger than 16:9?

It's still HD but technically it doesn't conform to HDTV standards. It doesn't matter, it's still HD.

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I'm running somthing like 1208 by 1024 or something around those numbers ( very very close), Someone said that if your running greater that 720 lines or something on a screan, then your HD? Is this true? And am I running HD? DO I have to change a setting on my card?

Yes, it's still HD. As I said above, it just doesn't conform to HDTV standards.
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Exactly so it is technically not HD then. other than the rez.
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It's still HD but technically it doesn't conform to HDTV standards. It doesn't matter, it's still HD.

Yes, it's still HD. As I said above, it just doesn't conform to HDTV standards.
Exactly my opinion. If you're PC resolution is set to display at least 720 lines, then you will have an HD quality display. Widescreen monitors are not the norm for PC gamers, so I don't think this should be an issue anyone should be splitting hairs over. We know it's not HDTV...it's a PC game, not TV. And as soon as we PC gamers bump our 4:3 aspect ratio monitor up to 1600x1200, we've left HDTV resolutions in the dust.

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Exactly so it is technically not HD then. other than the rez.
Again, let's not split hairs. It is HD quality, probably greater HD quality. It does not conform to the HDTV standards. Who cares, it's not a TV. I mean, what next...are we going to start bickering about whether we're playing in "full HD", like Sony wants everyone to believe is the only "HD" that matters?

As I said, my advice to all PC gamers is to not pay one whit of attention to the "HD" moniker. It is a TV thing, not a PC thing.
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Well said Vulcan!

Console + TV are a whole different ball park. This one is about "Buzz" words ie, HD Ready etc.

PC = HD anyway, to be honest anything over 1024x768 i would consider HD. So what if it is not Widescreen it is still displaying a picture wiht higher definition than 720p.

And i think the most important thing to consider is that TV HD will be viewed at around 2m, however PC is more like 0.3 - 0.5m.

We need higher resolutions as we are closer if that makes any sense, whats the point of so much detail if we cant make it out unless we stand next to the damn thing.

Hope you take my points onboard


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The only reason that the "HD" label exists is that standards are needed in the TV world. Since every HD camera and every HDTV needs to work on the same few resolutions two of the three resolutions are labeled high definition and one is labeled standard resolution. Given the flexibility of PC's - these labels are unnecessary. Since you can display in any resolution we don't need to separate a couple into the HD and a couple into the SD categories. If you want a cutoff for HD though - say that anything over 720p is HD.
does it really matter? as long as your running a high resolution with good contrast and good color, it should end up looking like hd
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does it really matter? as long as your running a high resolution with good contrast and good color, it should end up looking like hd
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Good Point... I haven't seen actually TRUE HDTV but only a couple times in my life for more than an hour... so I can't set the standard of HD for me.

If I can read it, and it looks appeasing to the eye, then its good enough for me
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