[michel84]

Help please:I have barton 2500+ with msi kt4av motherbord and 512 mb ddr 400 ram
My multipiller is locked so i have to increase the fsb in order 2 overclock
I am only able 2 push it from 166 to 177
At 178 it is only stable for 3 â€" 10 min then restart
At 179 it will restart as soon as i get into windos
At 182 no boot
I tried increasing the voltage but it didnt help
I cant lock my agp/pci so i think this is the problem
Any suggestions

 

[zother]

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Originally Posted by michel84 Help please:I have barton 2500+ with msi kt4av motherbord and 512 mb ddr 400 ram My multipiller is locked so i have to increase the fsb in order 2 overclock I am only able 2 push it from 166 to 177 At 178 it is only stable for 3 â€" 10 min then restart At 179 it will restart as soon as i get into windos At 182 no boot I tried increasing the voltage but it didnt help I cant lock my vga/pci so i think this is the problem Any suggestions

Ya, the PCI/AGP bus is the problem. One thing that might work is set the FSB to 200 because the Via chipset often resets the PCI and AGP busses there. But otherwise that's the limit that your system will sopport.

 

[michel84]

i have already tried that but the system wont even boot
not even when i increase the voltage up to 1.75 which is the max the mobo allows me to do

 

[michel84]

any ideas or should i just buy new mobo?

 

[DevilDriver]

mobo may not entirly be the problem.
the barton cores realy dont oc all that well. it takes 1.85 core voltage to get my 3000+ barton to 2.4ghz, or 185fsb*x13, and it wont OC any higher w/o the same problems you get. any less voltage and it has problems at that setting.
you can try a newer mobo, but you very well may have the same problem.

 

[zother]

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Originally Posted by michel84 i have already tried that but the system wont even boot not even when i increase the voltage up to 1.75 which is the max the mobo allows me to do

Try to pick up a nforce 2 based board the best are the Abit nf7-s and the DFI. Most people can get about 2.2Ghz out of the 2500+.

 

[michel84]

thanks 4 ur help zother
how much does it cost this nforce 2 mobo
any onelse have another suggestions
any way 2 overclock more withaout changing the mobo?

 

[michel84]

to zother : u scored 2.2 on barton 2500+ with water cooling !
how far can i go with the stock cooling ?
i can throu a cople more case fans but thats it . i dont want 2 use water cooling . how far can i go?

 

[zother]

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Originally Posted by michel84 to zother : u scored 2.2 on barton 2500+ with water cooling ! how far can i go with the stock cooling ? i can throu a cople more case fans but thats it . i dont want 2 use water cooling . how far can i go?

The new ones can go to about 2.2Ghz by just uping the FSB. Mine is one of the old ones that has been abused (brother's girlfriend turned PC on without starting pump and left it running for the weekend and that's just the start of the abuse.)

Oh nforce 2 boards are around $100.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-166&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...136-138&depa=0

 

[michel84]

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Originally Posted by zother The new ones can go to about 2.2Ghz by just uping the FSB. Mine is one of the old ones that has been abused (brother's girlfriend turned PC on without starting pump and left it running for the weekend and that's just the start of the abuse.) Oh nforce 2 boards are around $100. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-166&depa=0 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...136-138&depa=0

do u mean mobile barton by the new ones ?
mine is non mobile so can i get it 2 run at 2.2 withair cooling and nforce 2 ?

 

[michel84]

100 $ !!! anything cheaper ??

 

[zother]

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Originally Posted by michel84 do u mean mobile barton by the new ones ? mine is non mobile so can i get it 2 run at 2.2 withair cooling and nforce 2 ?

No not the mobile the regular ones. They have the locked multi and the slightly older ones that have the unlucked multi are even better.

About the boards the Abit is only 80 and there is a mobel of the DFI that is 75. Just look around.

Plus 100 bucks is pretty cheap for a quaility board when you consider that the cheapest boards cost 50-70.

 

[michel84]

isn,t the msi kt4av supposed to work with barton 3200+ that runs at 200 fsb ?

 

[DevilDriver]

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Originally Posted by michel84 isn,t the msi kt4av supposed to work with barton 3200+ that runs at 200 fsb ?

what mem/fsb ratio it will runs depends completly on the ram, but it should.
here are the specs for it.
its official support only goes to 3000+ which depending on when they started making that mobo would have only been 333mhz FSB

 

[michel84]

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Originally Posted by DevilDriver what mem/fsb ratio it will runs depends completly on the ram, but it should. here are the specs for it. its official support only goes to 3000+ which depending on when they started making that mobo would have only been 333mhz FSB

Memory Speed/CPU FSB Support Matrix

i saw the link but when they say fsb 400 with ddr 400 in the chart Memory Speed/CPU FSB Support Matrix how is that supposed to work as the agp/pci speed is not locked?

 

[michel84]

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Originally Posted by michel84 Help please:I have barton 2500+ with msi kt4av motherbord and 512 mb ddr 400 ram My multipiller is locked so i have to increase the fsb in order 2 overclock I am only able 2 push it from 166 to 177 At 178 it is only stable for 3 â€" 10 min then restart At 179 it will restart as soon as i get into windos At 182 no boot I tried increasing the voltage but it didnt help I cant lock my agp/pci so i think this is the problem Any suggestions

i installed better cooling & this let me do 180 x 11 nothing more
i tried 2 look 4 a new bios version but only found a useless one used 4 supporting lan or somthing
my mobo is MSI KT4V (MS-6712). could any one help me please ?
any way 2 set the divider at 6/1

 

[kayray]

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Originally Posted by michel84 i installed better cooling & this let me do 180 x 11 nothing more i tried 2 look 4 a new bios version but only found a useless one used 4 supporting lan or somthing my mobo is MSI KT4V (MS-6712). could any one help me please ? any way 2 set the divider at 6/1

how much do you want to up your barton?
i'm using same mobo and running 180 x 12

but don't try to push 200++ because that mobo cannot support that fsb.
try running sp2004 for an hour to verify that your clock is stable

 

[michel84]

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Originally Posted by kayray how much do you want to up your barton? i'm using same mobo and running 180 x 12 but don't try to push 200++ because that mobo cannot support that fsb. try running sp2004 for an hour to verify that your clock is stable

i am using sandra,s burn in wizard and it,s stable
what is sp2004

???!!!
i want 2 increase the fsb as much as pssible because the multipillar is locked