[Boggs]

Help me choose a motherboard, memory, and a new processor to work well with the products I just bought. I'd like to keep it cheap if possible... $345 budget for the time being.... I know I wont be able to get all three with that budget but how about just a motherboard and memory to fit that price range for the time being? Or even a harddrive

These were the following Items I bought

SteelPad 5L 20030 Mouse Pad - Retail :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817114706

EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130071

APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144151

APEVIA ATX-AS680W-BL ATX12V / EPS12V 680W Power Supply - Retail :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817148022

SteelPad SteelKeys 6G US Black USB + PS/2 Standard Keyboard - OEM :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823703001

--- with that all said.. i need a motherboard, memory, and new processor as mentioned above. Hard drive optional, I may just use the one in my current system.

Looking for an Intel Processor. Core Duo? I'm not the smartest when it comes to this, but I like to use my computer mostly for gaming

 

[TaiDinh]

Good morning! Welcome to Overclock dot net!

None of the links you have provided works.

$345 for a moterhboard, CPU, and hard drive is possible. Though, do you think you can hold off on the RAM?

Hard Drive : Seagate 250GB SATA 16MB Cache
Motherboard: Gigabyte DS3
Core 2 Duo: E6320
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Total Price: $345.48

These two RAMS are ones of the cheap and best RAMs that many would recommend you.
G.SKill DDR2 800 HZ
Ballistix

Currently, both of the RAMS are at the same price. Last week, the Ballistix was cheaper. Why I went with the hard drive in your combo over the RAM is because it fits your $345 budget. But, look into one of the two RAMs I have linked you.

Also, if you would like to know everything about overclocking, you have come to the right place!

 

[Boggs]

All the links should work now....

well considering this is going to be a new rig... i might want to not get the harddrive and use the one i currently have and put the money towards ram. cause my computer right now is running on 512 MB of ram... and that just wont do

ps: ty for the warm welcome

 

[TaiDinh]

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Originally Posted by Boggs All the links should work now.... well considering this is going to be a new rig... i might want to not get the harddrive and use the one i currently have and put the money towards ram. cause my computer right now is running on 512 MB of ram... and that just wont do ps: ty for the warm welcome

The DS3 only have 1 IDE port. So, I hope that will not interfere with anything.

CPU + Motherboard + RAM = $405.48

You may want to look into the G15 Keyboard. It's one of the best keyboards!

I don't know how well that PSU you have chosen will run.

 

[Ace of Spades]

I would definatley drop teh HDD for now and use your current, therefore you can have your rig running istead of it waiting on the RAM

 

[Boggs]

Let me be the first to tell you, I'm a complete noob TaiDinh... I have no Idea what SATA or Raid is going to do or the IDE ports you mention. I consider myself to have average computer knowledge but when it comes to speed, overclocking sata and raid I dont even know if it's an important feature to have...

aside from that I like the ram....

is the CPU an increase from my current one?? Intel 2.8 P4 HyperThread

 

[TaiDinh]

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Originally Posted by Boggs Let me be the first to tell you, I'm a complete noob TaiDinh... I have no Idea what SATA or Raid is going to do or the IDE ports you mention. I consider myself to have average computer knowledge but when it comes to speed, overclocking sata and raid I dont even know if it's an important feature to have... aside from that I like the ram.... is the CPU an increase from my current one?? Intel 2.8 P4 HyperThread

P4 to a C2D... The improvement is a jaw drop.

This is IDE. The DS3 only have 1 IDE for a DVD/CD drive or a hard drive. There is a smaller one, but that's for floppy drive.

This is SATA. Modern boards and in the future will use this over the IDEs.

 

[Boggs]

Yeah. Thanks very much for the effort your putting into helping me better understand this and complete my new rig. My HDD right now uses that IDE cord I believe but it also came with SATA or Raid which I never set up. I also have a CD-ROM R/W drive x16 combo. so i will be using that too if it is any help in directing me towards the right motherboard

 

[Boggs]

I guess I can get the best bang for my buck and just get 2 of the 3 items I need.. as far as RAM / Motherboard / CPU goes. SO maybe I'll just get a CPU and RAM now..... and then save for a week or two wait for a paycheck and then get the motherboard.

 

[TaiDinh]

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Originally Posted by Boggs Yeah. Thanks very much for the effort your putting into helping me better understand this and complete my new rig. My HDD right now uses that IDE cord I believe but it also came with SATA or Raid which I never set up. I also have a CD-ROM R/W drive x16 combo. so i will be using that too if it is any help in directing me towards the right motherboard

RAID is a term where you use to hard drive together at once, I have no knowledge on that.

Just make sure that both of your DVD/CD and hard drive doesn't use IDE, because the DS3 only have one port for just one of them.

I've yet to see a hard drive with both IDE and SATA ports together.

 

[Boggs]

What about this motherboard? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813189003

 

[TaiDinh]

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Originally Posted by Boggs What about this motherboard? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813189003

More expensive isn't always better.

That motherboard is an SLI board. SLI is made by nVidia where you can use 2 PCI-E video cards together for more performance in games.

ATI calls that Crossfire, which they have their own boards for that.

If you do not plan to go SLI, stick with the DS3.

 

[Sreenath]

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Originally Posted by TaiDinh RAID is a term where you use to hard drive together at once, I have no knowledge on that. Just make sure that both of your DVD/CD and hard drive doesn't use IDE, because the DS3 only have one port for just one of them. I've yet to see a hard drive with both IDE and SATA ports together.

thats incorrect. one IDE channel ('port' as you call it) can support two devices, a master and a slave, if the jumpers on the back are set correctly then the end of the cable goes to master middle to slave.

eg. one end goes to the IDE port on the DS3 the middle of cable goes to CD-ROM and end of cable goes to HDD. thats how i did it on the same EXACT mobo before i got my sata hd; i have the ds3 and had a 160gb ide and dvd-rw both ide

 

[Boggs]

I'm purchasing these two....

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Conroe 2.13GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115016

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065

 

[Sreenath]

good choice thats what i would get, exactly

too bad you didn't buy before RAM prices went up

 

[TaiDinh]

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Originally Posted by Boggs I'm purchasing these two.... Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Conroe 2.13GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115016 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065

If you purchase the E6320, you can save and overclock it from 1.86GHz to 2.13GHz easily and then go Beyond 2.13GHz to somewhere in 2.8.

 

[Sreenath]

and RAID (redundant array of independent (used to be inexpensive) disks) is just what it says it is. You can run multiple hard drives in RAID 0,1,3-5, and 10 or 0+1

RAID 0 - combines your Hard drives into one; you get storage from both and twice the write speed, around 1.5 times the read speed (artificial benchies show 2X but thats theroretical)

RAID 1- copies the two hard drives, same write speed, double read speed, half the space, data safety

RAID 3-5: combined with parity

RAID 10- raid 0 + raid 1

RAID 0+1= guess

and again, you can use both devices on that one ide channel. just get an ide cable with three plugs (one on the end, one in the middle and one on the other end) you should have one in your current rig.

and the 6420 will get you >3GHz easy.

 

[Boggs]

I'll worry about overclocking my rig after I read a little more into it and gain knowledge but I dont see how The E6420 is going to be bettter than my Intel P4 2.8.

2.8 GHz opposed to 2.13?

Obviously I'm wrong but what am I missing...

Also no intention of running RAID, Just have 1 HDD. 1 CD/DVD ROM R/W Combo drive

now all I need in the perfect motherboard which I can purchase using all my mail in rebates hahahaha.

can you help me select one?

 

[Sreenath]

1. Dual Core. The E6420 has two physical cores (almost like two CPU's) running at 2.13GHz EACH in one chip. That's around (but not exactly) twice the processing power not factoring the following

2. Twice as fast per MHz - MHz/GHz doesnt matter when the ops/cycle are different. your P4 2.8 is as good as a SINGLE CORE 1.4GHz conroe (remember the 6400 is dual core 2.13) ...since the conroe's do 12 operations per cycle and the P4's do 6, half that, but remember also dual core, so in reality the 2.13 GHz is around a 4.26GHz Pentium D, and ~6GHz P4. Obviously thats not exactly right in practice, but its darn close

 

[Boggs]

Screenath will you help me select a nice motherboard that I can add to my cart... it will be the final step to my new computer..

I can honestly say I am looking forward to putting this one together!