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Hey guys!

New here...
But I just built a new computer
i7 950
gigabyte ga-x58a-ud3r
6gb ddr3 1600 corsair xms3 latency 7 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-286-_-Product)

gtx 460
cooler master gx750w
cooler master storm scout case

Ok so I've been trying to change the timings, voltage, and frequency manually because it shows up as 88820 and 1066 mhz.
When I change everything it only recognizes 4gb out of 6gb.
I set the voltage from 1.5v to 1.64v MIB intelligent motherboard tweaker, DRAM timing selectable, profile DDR voltage 1.5v to 1.64v ...
It does seem to make my CPU temps go up (sometimes 70c) is this not the correct place to change the voltage? Can I not do this on the stock CPU cooler? Why only 4gb out of 6? Any help is appreciated! I really want this running at what it advertises or as best as possible! thank you!
 

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You need to have a 64 bit os to run 4gb+ of ram. I would not use a program to change stuff, go to the bios to change it. Go to the bios and change all of the stuff you want to change. Also, could you tell us what the settings you are changing are? Thanks!
 

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You need to have a 64 bit os to run 4gb+ of ram. I would not use a program to change stuff, go to the bios to change it. Go to the bios and change all of the stuff you want to change. Also, could you tell us what the settings you are changing are? Thanks!
I do have 64bit windows 7... 6gb runs fine but at the stock settings (1066)
I was changing it in bios... the settings I was changing are the multiplier so its 1600, the timings to quick and then to 7 8 7 20, and then I THOUGHT i was changing the memory voltage to 1.64v under DRAM voltage

I just want my memory to run at 1600 stable with hopefully the timings of 7 8 7 20
 

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The x8 memory multiplier is the most common and most stable memory multiplier. I'm not sure I would go about changing the memory multi, instead, lower the CPU multi and test for stability. Then raise the bclk to the desired amount. Do you have a CPU over clock?
 

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The x8 memory multiplier is the most common and most stable memory multiplier. I'm not sure I would go about changing the memory multi, instead, lower the CPU multi and test for stability. Then raise the bclk to the desired amount. Do you have a CPU over clock?
Do I have to change anything about the CPU? Sorry I'm VERY new to OCing and just wanted the memory to what it advertises. I do not have a CPU overclock (yet). I am going to be getting a better cpu cooler soon but right now just using the stock one so didn't want to OC anything.
 

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No. you need to change the Memory multiplier, and if you dont get the desired speed even with max multiplier, it's time to raise the Base clock , FSB
 

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No. you need to change the Memory multiplier, and if you dont get the desired speed even with max multiplier, it's time to raise the Base clock , FSB
Ok so i know i can change the multiplier so it makes it 1600 (is that what you mean). I have done this before, but I thought I would also have to change the voltage? Especially with those timings?
 

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Try setting the multiplier, then check for stability. If your stable, no need to bump voltages. Make sure you're not on Auto tho, it might over-volt your Memory
 

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Ok so i know i can change the multiplier so it makes it 1600 (is that what you mean). I have done this before, but I thought I would also have to change the voltage? Especially with those timings?

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Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ............................. [19x]
DP Frequency ................................ 3.04GHz (160x19)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ........................... [All]
CPU Multi Threading ......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ..................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ...................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ........................... [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ...................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Ratio .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................ [x20] This should always be 2x (or 2x + 1) your memory multiplier
Isonchronous Frequency ...................... [Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [160]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) .............. [100]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance .................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled] → Disable XMP
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [10] set to this to give you 1600mhz ram speed
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................ 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert] → you will have to manually adjust your memory timings for each stick
Channel Interleaving .................. [Auto]
Rank Interleaving ..................... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ........................... [7]
tRCD ....................................... [8]
tRP ........................................ [7]
tRAS ....................................... [20]

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ...................... [disabled]
CPU Vcore .......................... [AUTO] 
QPI/VTT Voltage .................... [1.300V]
CPU PLL ............................ 1.800V [auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE .............................. 1.500v [auto]
QPI PLL ........................... 1.100v [auto]
IOH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]
ICH I/O ............................ 1.500v [auto]
ICH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ....................... 1.500V [1.660V]
DRAM Termination ................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
 

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Code:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ............................. [19x]
DP Frequency ................................ 3.04GHz (160x19)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ........................... [All]
CPU Multi Threading ......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ..................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ...................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ........................... [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ...................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Ratio .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................ [x20] This should always be 2x (or 2x + 1) your memory multiplier
Isonchronous Frequency ...................... [Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [160]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) .............. [100]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance .................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled] → Disable XMP
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [10] set to this to give you 1600mhz ram speed
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................ 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert] → you will have to manually adjust your memory timings for each stick
Channel Interleaving .................. [Auto]
Rank Interleaving ..................... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ........................... [7]
tRCD ....................................... [8]
tRP ........................................ [7]
tRAS ....................................... [20]

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ...................... [disabled]
CPU Vcore .......................... [AUTO] 
QPI/VTT Voltage .................... [1.300V]
CPU PLL ............................ 1.800V [auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE .............................. 1.500v [auto]
QPI PLL ........................... 1.100v [auto]
IOH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]
ICH I/O ............................ 1.500v [auto]
ICH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ....................... 1.500V [1.660V]
DRAM Termination ................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Alright I changed the mulitplier ( had to be 12) to get to 1600 and I changed performance enhance to standard. The timings are at 7 8 7 20 now
seems ot be working but how do i know for sure?
to the only thing is when I do this it seems to raise my cpu temps? idle its about 60c and max 72c using hwmonitor.

CPU
Load Line Calibration ...................... [disabled]
CPU Vcore .......................... [AUTO]
QPI/VTT Voltage .................... [1.300V]
CPU PLL ............................ 1.800V [auto]

for that.... i changed the qpi/vtt to 1.35v recently and it wouldn't boot my system. should i change it still?

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Ratio .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................ [x20] This should always be 2x (or 2x + 1) your memory multiplier
Isonchronous Frequency ...................... [Enabled]

I left this stuff alone along with the stuff I didn't say I changed. Do I need to change this and to what since my multiplier had to be 12? 24??

thanks for the help!
 

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I left this stuff alone along with the stuff I didn't say I changed. Do I need to change this and to what since my multiplier had to be 12? 24??

thanks for the help!
Check with CPU-Z, see what Vcore it shows.

Most of the other stuff isn't really necessary other than this:

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Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Ratio .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................ [x20] This should always be 2x (or 2x + 1) your memory multiplier
If either of these is set to Auto, it will run it at a much higher frequency, and thus cause a BSOD or other issues.

So first try putting those in with 1.3v Vtt/QPI. If you're still having issues after that, let me know.
 

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Check with CPU-Z, see what Vcore it shows.

Most of the other stuff isn't really necessary other than this:

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Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Ratio .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency ............................ [x20] This should always be 2x (or 2x + 1) your memory multiplier
If either of these is set to Auto, it will run it at a much higher frequency, and thus cause a BSOD or other issues.

So first try putting those in with 1.3v Vtt/QPI. If you're still having issues after that, let me know.
by vcore do you mean? Core Voltage? If so its at .928 but keeps changing.
and for the uncore fequency you want me to set it to x20 right?
Also the VTT only goes from 1.15 to 1.35 to 1.55 do i pick 1.35? didnt want to try and mess it up.
 

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by vcore do you mean? Core Voltage? If so its at .928 but keeps changing.
and for the uncore fequency you want me to set it to x20 right?
Also the VTT only goes from 1.15 to 1.35 to 1.55 do i pick 1.35? didnt want to try and mess it up.
Yeah Vcore is core voltage. And yes, change uncore frequency to 20x.

Are you sure about just those three options for Vtt? It should go from 1.100v to 2.000v in small increments. Make sure you are using the latest BIOS.
 

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Yeah Vcore is core voltage. And yes, change uncore frequency to 20x.

Are you sure about just those three options for Vtt? It should go from 1.100v to 2.000v in small increments. Make sure you are using the latest BIOS.
Yeah I'm positive that it only let me do that. It wasn't JUST those three options though thats just the three around the 1.3v range it doesn't let me do 1.3 only 1.35v. How do I tell which version of BIOS I have? I just bought the mobo about 2 weeks ago.
I changed justthe timings to 7 8 7 20 , 1600 and voltage to 1.64v and its been fine since last night is there a program to make sure?
It did seem to make the CPU get hotter

I'll try the other settings when I get home from work but need to check the bios version.

Also I changed the VTT to 1.35v before and it wouldnt boot would changing the uncore freq to 20x and the VTT 1.3v help
 

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Any more help with this? (Sorryt o bug you) It seems do be running fine, but I'm not sure how to check it. The LEDs by my CPU are yellow now and I looked at the manual and it means it has a moderate voltage increase. The ram has a green LED which means slight voltage increase. Is this ok? I'm not sure how the CPU would have a voltage increase now..
 

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Hey Simpletech,

Ok so i changed everything that was on the previous page! And everything is working! You're awesome! haha
the only thing though is now my processor temps are almost 10c higher. I have the cooler master v6 gt cooler and before idle temps were about 40c now they are around 48-51c. Is this ok? Did my processor get overclocked a little? (my motherboard LED is showing slight overclock) Also the things that you had me change under Advnaced CPU features like CPU enhanced halt to disabled, etc. does that make my CPU perform any different (less)?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Edit: Oh yeah! my other question was how do I control the speed of the CPU fan?

AH! actually it just gave my a blue screen said memory dump in __ seconds or something then restarted
 

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actually it seemed to only give me that screen twice when i was resetting the settings in msi after burner?

Anyways, just wondering about the other stuff now I guess
 

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Higher temperatures are usually because your Vcore and/or Vtt/QPI is higher.

What does CPU-Z read since I said to leave CPU voltage at auto. It might be higher than you really need.

Those other options are merely power saving modes and other CPU properties. They're usually disabled if you overclock past a certain degree. Since we're trying to keep you near stock while running your memory at their rated specs, it shouldn't matter too much.

To catch what the BSOD displayed, go to System Properties → Advanced Tab. Under Startup and Recovery, uncheck Automatically Restart.
 

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Higher temperatures are usually because your Vcore and/or Vtt/QPI is higher.

What does CPU-Z read since I said to leave CPU voltage at auto. It might be higher than you really need.

Those other options are merely power saving modes and other CPU properties. They're usually disabled if you overclock past a certain degree. Since we're trying to keep you near stock while running your memory at their rated specs, it shouldn't matter too much.

To catch what the BSOD displayed, go to System Properties → Advanced Tab. Under Startup and Recovery, uncheck Automatically Restart.
I changed everything exactly the way it was on the first page. I did leave CPU core on auto and just changed VTT to 1.3 my vcore voltage in CPU-Z says 1.376 now though?

Seems to be running fine though? That BSOD only happened when I pressed reset settings on msi after burner though? I'll set so I can read it though if it happens again.

Anyways, did I set something up wrong? Do I need to do anything now? I'm not opposed to trying to OC the processor some more
 
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