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vilespankmachine
First post here, but I've been lurking awhile. I've recently decided that load temps & idle temps I've been experiencing on my basic 3.0 overclock on my Q6600 G0 were too high. I ditched my AC Freezer 7 Pro for a bigger badder & more expensive Tuniq Tower which I haven't head anyone say anything bad about.

I currently have the voltage at auto and have left speedstep on for the time being (so idle temps are actually with it running at 2.0 GHZ as I have my FSB set to 335) and it drops the multiplier to 6. I do this to use less power and so my temps while browsing are nice and low but I am flexible.

I can't remember what the temps were with the Freezer 7, but with the Tuniq Tower and the fan set to about 1550 RPM, I get idle temps when windows first starts of about 35C on one set of cores, and 28C on the other. Once I load the processor heavily with Prime95 or a game, idle in Windows never goes under about 40C & 35C for each set. Max load with Prime95 is 60C & 55C (each pair of cores).

I have lapped my processor before, I didn't notice much of an overall difference in temps, other than each pair of cores stayed alot closer to one another in temps. Tower is stock, no washer mod, no lapping, stock fan.

I reseated my tower last night with a fresh batch of AC MX-2 as I decided I used waaaaaay too much last time, the temps dropped by abit (to the reported above), but they are still nothing like alot of people I see on here running 45-50C load temps and I sure feel my load temps should be alot lower for what a good cooler this is suppossed to be.

Running in a mostly stock P180, decent cable managment. All fans set to medium, 1 additional fan added in place of upper hard drive cage, removed cage in front of lower drive bay and move the 120 fan that is in the middle of the case to the front as it would no longer clear with my Antec 850 PS. That dropped my HD temps by 10C and would recommend anyone with a 180 move their fan or install another one there. I gained another 5C drop with the lower door & filter off (I discovered that by accident).

I guess I am looking for suggestions to take the load temps lower, idle I am fine with, I don't think I'll get much less out a quad. I've had a stable overclock to 3.8 Ghz with 1.45v and a slight bump to the NB, but load temps were about 80-85C but plenty stable, regular operating temps weren't bad though. I'd like to run that again but I feel I should work on making it run cooler at 3.0ghz first. Next step I was going to try was the washer mod, but I can't turn it in the mount as it is, so I don't think they will make a difference.
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That seems about normal when i have my 2400rpm fan on my Tuniq I get around 35-40*c With an ambient of 78*f.

Will my 800rpm fan i get about 45-50 on idle. same ambient

This is all at 3.4ghz
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I think alot of the tuniq performance comes from the washer mod and the lapping that people do to them. If you cpu is allready lapped then I would try those things and see what happens.

Also set your voltage or atleast I would so you know its at a given value.
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vilespankmachine
With the speedstep enabled it idles @ 1.17v /2.0ghz, load it and it goes to 1.28-1.30/3.0ghz. The undervolt and underclock at idle are one reason I am a little concerned about my temps, doesn't just about everyone disable speedstep? That would make most of the idle temps reported on here the temps AT the overclocked speed, whereas what I am reported are underclocked vs. overclocked. Or am I wrong?

P.S. Those were some damn quick replies
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I've found the best thing with the TT120 and the P180 cases is air flow, get some fans mounted inside the case, small 92mm ones like this:


Having those two mounted on the inside of my case brought my temps down from mid 40's idle, and high 50's load to around 30-32ish idle, and about mid 40's load with my TT120 at 1500RPM.

Not too mention but my whole case temps dropped too, Video card, NB, RAM, everything.
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Hmm, do you think those fans inside the case would still help me with my tower pointed the other way? Mine has to exhaust out the top because it will in no way even come close to clearing the NB cooler my MB came with.

I was also wondering if my video card might be making it abit hotter, since it has two really hot cores just below the north bridge I was wondering if the cooler on the CPU could be helping to suck up the heat on there and out the top.
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Hmm, do you think those fans inside the case would still help me with my tower pointed the other way? Mine has to exhaust out the top because it will in no way even come close to clearing the NB cooler my MB came with.

I was also wondering if my video card might be making it abit hotter, since it has two really hot cores just below the north bridge I was wondering if the cooler on the CPU could be helping to suck up the heat on there and out the top.
Do you have an exhaust fan at the top of your case? If not, then yes you should mount it the other way so the rear exhaust fan can help pull out the heat.

I have the Tuniq Tower installed on a DFI DK P35 and to get it to fit correctly (i.e. exhaust out the back of the case) I had to cut off one of the K8 mounting holes on the bracket.
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Hmm I am fiddling with it now, I disabled EIST but left thermal management enabled so I still get some better cooling at idle, I locked my vcore @ 1.30 for now and changed my FSB to 400 and dropped the multiplier to 7, prime95 for 15 minutes, no appreciate change in temp from before, rebooted again with a multiplier of 8, running Prime95 now. Highest temp so far is 62C which is 2C more than before, am I running into a case of the sensors not reading idle temps correctly perhaps? I still think it's a hot for how I'm running it...I assume everyone who tests with Prime95 loads each core and uses the "In-Place FFT's" test as that one is labeled for maximum heat and power consumption.
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Yes P180 has a top exhaust fan. So I have a total of 5 120mm fans cooling my case, 2 intake, 2 exhaust, one in the middle of the tower. 1 of them exclusively cools the hard drive and the power supply in the lower bay though, so the top bay only has 1 120mm intake.
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Hmm, my processor must be weak or something, I can no longer finish 20 mins of prime95 with stored 3.6ghz overclock with a 1.45v core. But....I BSOD'ed but windows finished the memory dump and rebooted....would the be a RAM problem? Highest temp on that run was 67C, not much of an increase. It would seem to suggest regardless of the cooler my chip will run a certain temp or thereabouts and then the cooler will overcome it.
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Hmm, my processor must be weak or something, I can no longer finish 20 mins of prime95 with stored 3.6ghz overclock with a 1.45v core. But....I BSOD'ed but windows finished the memory dump and rebooted....would the be a RAM problem? Highest temp on that run was 67C, not much of an increase. It would seem to suggest regardless of the cooler my chip will run a certain temp or thereabouts and then the cooler will overcome it.

The CPU could be unstable because of heat. 67C is rather warm. The cpu is rated to 70 or 71 (highest it can go without risking physical damage). But you can still get instability below that temp. I would try to shoot for 55-60C.
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Isn't the 70-71C range for the temp measured for the overall processor? I state the highest temp reached on any core.
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i had a tuna and guess what,

my Q6600 go 1.235v

all way's gets HOT i mean Hot

so i Got me a Cooler Master V8 and now im a happy guy i don't get over then 50c
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Isn't the 70-71C range for the temp measured for the overall processor? I state the highest temp reached on any core.

No it's for core temperature. The cores will always run hotter than the IHS (metal cap).

Out of curiosity what is your method for applying thermal paste and how much do you use?
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I did a very light X on top of the processor, although with how much I had to move the tower around to reach the screws I may not have seated it as well as I could have. I will reseat again with the mobo out so I can do it better with the washer mod & I'll lap the cooler as well. But I have to wait for my new tube of MX-2 to arrive.

If that doesn't work for me I may just jump ship and get a V8 or TRUE and see if I have better luck.
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I did a very light X on top of the processor, although with how much I had to move the tower around to reach the screws I may not have seated it as well as I could have. I will reseat again with the mobo out so I can do it better with the washer mod & I'll lap the cooler as well. But I have to wait for my new tube of MX-2 to arrive.

If that doesn't work for me I may just jump ship and get a V8 or TRUE and see if I have better luck.

Ya an "X" is a little too much. Try a thin horizontal line across the middle of the CPU (with the gold arrow in the lower left corner).
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Well ok, so I had time tonight to lap the TT, I did not spend 1-2 hours on it like some people, I only worked it for about 30 min with 400 grit only, it was approaching a mirror finish when I was done anyways because the sandpaper was so well worn by that time. Also did the marker test and it more or less sanded off very evenly in about 3-5 strokes. Relapped the processor while I was at it, reset the heat sink with the mobo out, and installed 2 washers per screw with the line method of thermal paste. I still don't have the lower temperatures that I am looking for so I dialed my OC down to 3400 with 425x8 @ 1.35vcore, may be able to take the vcore lower but I ran out of patience backing it down from 1.40 and testing at all hours of the night. My temps are still pretty much the same, 35-45c idle with a maximum observed of 68C at full load with this current configuration. I was going to buy a newer quad core when the prices came down, maybe this is my signal to pick up a 9550 or 9650 and maybe try out a new cooler as well.

On a side note, I replaced the stock thermal compound on the 4870x2 with MX-2 and WOW, that is the most significant change I have had from a single modification in a long time. When I set fan speed to 50% fixed before I would peak under load with furmark around 75c-80c, now it holds about 64-68C. When I use my custom automatic fan profile with RivaTuner the fan speed never exceeds about 42-45% to keep the cores under 70C, in fact they usually ran about 64-66C as well. Very good change, will make me reconsider the aftermarket cooler for the X2 as it is much quieter now that the fan doesn't have to work as hard to meet the goal temperature.
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Dropped the vcore to 1.30 and held the speed at 3400 (425x8), this had no affect on temperature which I find hard to believe with how big the Tuniq Tower is. I will be shopping for a new cooler in a couple of weeks.
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