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how good are the stock intel coolers on P4 prescotts

are they really that :turd:? ahah and what air cooler do you think i should get?
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They are barely able to handle a stock cpu. Go with a big typhoon and a good fan for it.
 

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you should be able to hit 4.0 or higher. Any fan with 100cfm or close to it will do fine.
 

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stupid stock fan couldnt handle my prescott at stock speed under a load. it got to like 70C! So i got me a xp-90 with a vantec tornado from a fellow O/C.net user and man has it made a difference. The Tornado at 70% speed cools my CPU at 3.6ghz to 42C. I love it
 
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