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how hot till a 4870 is damaged?

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how hot can the 4870 get before it gets damaged?, i mean like all the parts VRM phase 1-3, MemIO, SHADER, and the DispIO

thanks

EDIT: nobody knows?
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Don't BUMP in less than 24 hours. Everything should be fine up to at least 120*C, maybe further, but it depends for how long.
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Don't BUMP in less than 24 hours. Everything should be fine up to at least 120*C, maybe further, but it depends for how long.

oh sorry i forgot thanks
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I'd say 90c max for the core(dispIO), 90-100c max for the memory(memIO), ~90c for ShaderIO. I believe 125c is max spec for the VRMs, but I'd try to keep 'em under 100c if at all possible.
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I'd say 90c max for the core(dispIO), 90-100c max for the memory(memIO), ~90c for ShaderIO. I believe 125c is max spec for the VRMs, but I'd try to keep 'em under 100c if at all possible.

well jsut a few minutes ago i saw my VRm at 112C i saw the dispio at 110C the memory at 145C the shader 135C it must have been like that for at-least 10 minutes is it damaged? and how can i check?
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well jsut a few minutes ago i saw my VRm at 112C i saw the dispio at 110C the memory at 145C the shader 135C it must have been like that for at-least 10 minutes is it damaged? and how can i check?

Probably not damaged. But you need to reseat the cooler, as those temps are nowhere near normal on a 4870 unless your ambients are similar to the sub-sahara
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Probably not damaged. But you need to reseat the cooler, as those temps are nowhere near normal on a 4870 unless your ambients are similar to the sub-sahara

i think its the fan because a few months ago it wasn't even spinning, it spins now but its super slow like 996RPM even at max

edit do you have any suggestions? edit
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90 is the maximum safe temp for a 4890 as XFX customer support told me when I contacted them. I'd expect it's similar for the 4870.

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[ERIK_A 10/14/2009 4:29:33 PM] Hi Sevag, You wont start seeing issues with crashing, artifacts and other problems until it gets well into the 90`s celcius. Or rather shouldnt start giving issues until it gets to the 90`s . - Erik

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I'd replace that fan. Even though your card hasnt had a melt down high temps will seriously shorten its lifespan.
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I'd replace that fan. Even though your card hasnt had a melt down high temps will seriously shorten its lifespan.

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Reseat your heatsink with some good thermal paste and reinstall the drivers ASAP.

Do you have a manual fan speed set?
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Reseat your heatsink with some good thermal paste and reinstall the drivers ASAP.

Do you have a manual fan speed set?

yeah i have it at 100% right now its load as a jet and only keeps it at 59C

Edit okay i will reseat it now i will be back in an hour Edit
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well jsut a few minutes ago i saw my VRm at 112C i saw the dispio at 110C the memory at 145C the shader 135C it must have been like that for at-least 10 minutes is it damaged? and how can i check?



That cooler aint doin it's job. Reseat w/ fresh paste after a proper cleaning, check the fan, and if it's still running that warm and you intend on trying to keep the card alive, get a good aftermarket cooler.

edit: pics of the card if you could too. I'd like to see what cooler it has. A reference, a decent non-ref, or XFX's super el cheapo non-ref?
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Or buy an HD 4870 waterblock and incorporate it into your loop...

As far as I know, you will want to keep core and memory sub 100º C (my HD 4870x2s would start to artifact / bluescreen if memory went above about 105º C) and the VRM should be below 110º C at the very greatest, 100º C is better.
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Or buy an HD 4870 waterblock and incorporate it into your loop...

As far as I know, you will want to keep core and memory sub 100º C (my HD 4870x2s would start to artifact / bluescreen if memory went above about 105º C) and the VRM should be below 110º C at the very greatest, 100º C is better.

That's an idea, but:
1. his XFX 4870 might be non-reference, thus cause some difficulty in finding a decent block.
2. It's a thermaltake kit, it probably couldn't handle the heatload, and there may or may not be aluminum parts in the kit, possibly leading to galvanic corrosion.
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they tend to start artifacting and malfunctioning after around 100 degrees centigrade--which is pretty damn hot, and hard to do unless you are running its fan at like 20 percent
I can tell you that my 4870x2 never sits below 40% fan speed and 46-50% when gaming, and still I get the shills when I alt tab and see the vrm's on the 100's cº, I love my card but the temps it puts out are crazy.

Until a while back I was also scared of upping the fan higher, its loud as it is, but if it broke the fan I would find myself with quite a problem, not so much since this has been around at my local stores
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haha my 4650s fan is completly broke.. i mean sometimes it spins a little, maybe 20 RPM..

Ive seen it hit 110C before... but its still going strong! lol
Ouch Oak_beard... that sucks. My HD 4870x2s (I had a pair) never needed faster than 45% RPM to be able to keep sub 80º C on all temps in Furmark.
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Ouch Oak_beard... that sucks. My HD 4870x2s (I had a pair) never needed faster than 45% RPM to be able to keep sub 80º C on all temps in Furmark.
That's quite a feat I would like to achieve, I did swapped a few mails with the ATI support and they told me never to allow the vrm's above 110cº altough I believe even going as higher as 100cº is certainly making the components wear out faster.

80Cº with 2 of them seems like you have your comp inside a fridge on the pole


I try my best not to let any single component go above 90-95, and the vrm positions at least on the 4870x2 are badly cooled.
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last time i ran my 4870 without any real air circulation I got a non responsive black screen of death at:

GPU = 84.5c
Mem = 89.5c
Shader = 89.5c

So i guess max 'safe' temps will be under or around 85c-90c. just guessing though. for 24/7 though i would try to keep it some notches under that (at max).
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