[PeaceMaker]

Hey guys,

My cousins 7900GTX fried! Would love to RMA but unfortunately his idiot brother lost the only thing I told him not to lose, the mobo box filled with accessories (i.e. the heatsink, extra cables, etc.).

So how bad will a X2 4000 bottleneck a game like Crysis or any modern game with a 8800GT/9800GT? He is currently still playing WOW/WC3 and CSS. He needs to step it up lol.

 

[raisethe3]

I played my 8800GT with that exact same CPU before. It was the first CPU I got for my build. But I didn't noticed any lag or slow down from it especially when I over-clocked the chip to 2.8Ghz. I honestly can't remember what it was like playing at stock 2.1Ghz speed. Its so long ago.

 

[Smykster]

If it's got a decent OC it shouldn't at all

 

[PeaceMaker]

You can overclock that thing?! Crap, well he's on stock cooling, don't think thats going to happen.

 

[Smykster]

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Originally Posted by PeaceMaker You can overclock that thing?! Crap, well he's on stock cooling, don't think thats going to happen.

Don't knock stock cooling so fast! You can probably get a few Mhz out of it with stock. Nothing crazy but it helps. My pops' rig is running an athlon x2 regor stock 2.8 ghz oced to 3.6 on stock cooling. Idles at 25c loads at 32c. I know this chip is more efficient than the x2 4000 but it goes to show that stock cooling can still get a decent OC.

 

[raisethe3]

Just to let you know, its capable. I overclocked my CPU on STOCK cooling. My temps were surprisingly good as well. 31-33 idle and 47-50 load. It was in my old case which only had 1 intake (on the bottom) and 1 exhaust. Maybe I just got a good chip?

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Originally Posted by PeaceMaker You can overclock that thing?! Crap, well he's on stock cooling, don't think thats going to happen.

 

[PeaceMaker]

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Originally Posted by Smykster Don't knock stock cooling so fast! You can probably get a few Mhz out of it with stock. Nothing crazy but it helps. My pops' rig is running an athlon x2 regor stock 2.8 ghz oced to 3.6 on stock cooling. Idles at 25c loads at 32c. I know this chip is more efficient than the x2 4000 but it goes to show that stock cooling can still get a decent OC.

Regor is a whole other ball game. Smaller nm and newer CPU. What is a realistic OC on stock and aftermarket cooling?

 

[raisethe3]

I agree with this. It really depends on how hard and how far you want to push it. If you only want minimal speed increase, then it shouldn't be a problem. But if you're going to make a huge leap aka 1ghz jump, then its a lot wiser to invest a 3rd party cooler.

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Originally Posted by Smykster Don't knock stock cooling so fast! You can probably get a few Mhz out of it with stock. Nothing crazy but it helps. My pops' rig is running an athlon x2 regor stock 2.8 ghz oced to 3.6 on stock cooling. Idles at 25c loads at 32c. I know this chip is more efficient than the x2 4000 but it goes to show that stock cooling can still get a decent OC.

 

[Smykster]

I wouldn't be shocked to see 2.7-2.8 out of it. Infact I saw a lot of people getting 2.8 out of it on stock cooling with no raise in voltage.

 

[PeaceMaker]

Well going back to my original post... I need to know if my cousin will have an issue trying to play newer games. COD4 MW1, Crysis, uhm.. I'm drawing blanks on new games but I guess I would like to know its limitations (if any).

 

[Smykster]

I found crysis to play better with a quad. I'm playing with a 9800gtx+ which isint too far removed from what you'd like to get him. I didn't notice much of a difference from overclocked to stock cpu on crysis but I did from dual to quad. That GPU should be able to pull out medium settings at 1920x1080 definitely on 1680x1050. As far as COD and source games, it should definitely be able to handle them, without noticing a cpu bottleneck.

 

[PeaceMaker]

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Originally Posted by Smykster I found crysis to play better with a quad. I'm playing with a 9800gtx+ which isint too far removed from what you'd like to get him. I didn't notice much of a difference from overclocked to stock cpu on crysis but I did from dual to quad. That GPU should be able to pull out medium settings at 1920x1080 definitely on 1680x1050. As far as COD and source games, it should definitely be able to handle them, without noticing a cpu bottleneck.

that's really good to hear. he doesn't have a widescreen so 1680x1050 is out of the question.

 

[Smykster]

What res will he be playing at?

 

[DuckieHo]

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Originally Posted by PeaceMaker My cousins 7900GTX fried! Would love to RMA but unfortunately his idiot brother lost the only thing I told him not to lose, the mobo box filled with accessories (i.e. the heatsink, extra cables, etc.).

For most RMAs, you don't need the accessories.... just a proof of purchase.

 

[PeaceMaker]

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo For most RMAs, you don't need the accessories.... just a proof of purchase.

I dont have original heatsink.... I'm pretty sure I read in the fine print it required original heatsink and anything received without a stock heatsink will be shipped back.

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as for the res, I'm not sure tbh, he has a 19" Acer monitor.

 

[Smykster]

probably 1600x1200, he should be fine with an 8800 or 9800.