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Hy guys....
I dont know much about RAID or AHCI or IDE
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So i have a 5 year old 1TB WD HDD , 7200 RPM , 16 mb buffer SATA 1
and a SSD samsung 840 pro 128 gb SATA III.
My motherboard is the Z87-UD5H

How should i set this up ideally ? i have no idea...
 

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its nothing to worry about.

Connect the two drives to Your motherboard, preferably With the SSD in the slot With the lowest #number.

That way you most likely wont have to tell it to boot from that drive in bios cause its in the correct order.

install OS and apps on the SSD and use the large drive for Storage or apps you dont use frequently.

also there is a great thread here about SSD http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread
 

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Ok, thank you, so by any chance you wouldn't happen to know if i should use ahci or raid ? it is still unclear to me what raid dose.... rly
Also i read something about creating a partition on the SSD so that i can catch the HDD ? ..
 

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its nothing to worry about.

Connect the two drives to Your motherboard, preferably With the SSD in the slot With the lowest #number.

That way you most likely wont have to tell it to boot from that drive in bios cause its in the correct order.

install OS and apps on the SSD and use the large drive for Storage or apps you dont use frequently.

also there is a great thread here about SSD http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread
Basically this,
unplug all of the drives that aren't needed when you install it too. This is a good precaution even if you only have HDD's, just so windows can't try and load anything onto the other drives and the SSD will be standalone and you'll have no problems. (I did when I did my first SSD install).

So like when I do mine, I just unplug all of the HDD's and leave the SSD plugged in.
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This is what I do (courtesy of Sean):
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Update Firmware (if available) for SSD/HDD. Connect SSD onto your current running system and update Firmware.

How to make a bootable Windows 8 USB Installer with CMD (FAT32 formated):

Open and run CMD as Administrator
Type Diskpart, press Enter
Type List Disk, press Enter
Type Select Disk # (where # is the number your USB drive shows up as), press Enter
Type Clean, press Enter
Type Create Partition Primary, press Enter
Type Active, press Enter
Type Format Quick FS=FAT32, press Enter
Type Assign, press Enter
Type Exit, press Enter
Copy everything from the Windows 8 installation DVD onto the USB key (a simple drag and drop will do; if you have an .iso extract or mount first).

Disconnect all the drives but the one you are installing to.

If your hardware is overclocked please revert to stock clocks for installation to prevent data corruption.

Change the SATA mode to AHCI in the BIOS/UEFI then install OS.

Install Windows

Booting and partitioning of Windows 8:

Boot from your Windows 8 installation media.
After booting you see the Install Windows 8 screen, press Shift + F10 to open command prompt.
At the command prompt, type Diskpart, press Enter.
Type List Disk, press Enter.
Type Select Disk # (where # is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter.
Type Clean, press Enter.
Type Exit, press Enter.
Close the Command Prompt window.
Click the "Next" button.
Click the "Install now" button.
Put in your product key and click the "Next" button.
Accept the terms and click the "Next" button.
Choose "Custom: Install Windows only (advanced)."
Select the partition and click "Drive options (advanced)"
Click "New" and then click the "Apply" button. Two partitions should appear. Click the bottom partition.
Click the "OK" button and then click the "Next" button.
From then on follow the on screen instructions till you get to the desktop.

After installation:

Shutdown and reconnect all unpluged drives.

Install Motherboard Drivers

Install newest SATA and chipset drivers

For Intel systems, use the newest Rapid Storage Technology driver. (link) http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

Run Windows Update

Run WEI

Change user folder location

Go to your User folder.
Right click your user folder you want to move (ex. the "My Pictures" folder).
Click "Properties."
Click the "Location" tab.
Change the destination to another location by clicking "Move..." and selecting the destination (ex. "D:\Pictures").
Note 1: If there are two of the same folder in the User folder after the move (ie. My Documents "A" and My Documents "B") you should delete the empty one located on the C: drive. (May need to go into safe mode to delete it) Do not delete the other User folders, only duplicates that come up after the move within the User folder.
Note 2: If the folder already exists that you are linking it to you may want to merge the folders.

Disk Cleanup

Disk Defragment for HDDs and Optimize SSDs

Done!

I don't create System Reserved Partition because it's not absolutely necessary. You can also avoid it if you wish to: http://www.mydigitallife.info/hack-to-remove-100-mb-system-reserved-partition-when-installing-windows-7/
 

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Ok, thank you, so by any chance you wouldn't happen to know if i should use ahci or raid ? it is still unclear to me what raid dose.... rly
Also i read something about creating a partition on the SSD so that i can catch the HDD ? ..
AHCI gives the best performance on SSDs and allows some functions (e.g. TRIM) to operate that wouldn't otherwise. RAID stands for redundant array of inexpensive disks/drives and requires multiple drives to set up. You'd only kill the SSD's performance and HDD's capacity if you tried to use it.
 

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Ok, thank you, so by any chance you wouldn't happen to know if i should use ahci or raid ? it is still unclear to me what raid dose.... rly
Also i read something about creating a partition on the SSD so that i can catch the HDD ? ..
Use AHCI on all of your drives. Raid is only when you have two of the same drives, and would like to set them up as one or as a mirror.
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You can use RAID or AHCI mode for the SATA mode setting. RAID just allows you to create RAID arrays if you want to. it is good to use RAID mode if you plan on making RAID configs later on
 

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You can use RAID or AHCI mode for the SATA mode setting. RAID just allows you to create RAID arrays if you want to. it is good to use RAID mode if you plan on making RAID configs later on
Not exactly a thread-hijack but do you recommend 100-200MB System Reserved Partition to be created? I don't have a problem with them, but when I want to do a reinstall, I don't know the second installation benefits from it or not.
 

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You can use RAID or AHCI mode for the SATA mode setting. RAID just allows you to create RAID arrays if you want to. it is good to use RAID mode if you plan on making RAID configs later on
Not exactly a thread-hijack but do you recommend 100-200MB System Reserved Partition to be created? I don't have a problem with them, but when I want to do a reinstall, I don't know the second installation benefits from it or not.
makes no difference having it or not for the most part. You mainly need it if u use bitlocker.
 

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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Thank you everybody for the answers . I appreciate it and it did help me
Now in the interest of not starting another thread im gonna go Off topic.
Like i said i had this 5 y old 1tb WD sata1 16 mb buffer hdd it has rougly 50.000 h of use
Its currently about 50% full, i ran chkdsk full option and it returned 0 issues.
What else can i do to test it ? or should i just leave it alone cause its fine ? ...
 

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Thank you everybody for the answers . I appreciate it and it did help me
Now in the interest of not starting another thread im gonna go Off topic.
Like i said i had this 5 y old 1tb WD sata1 16 mb buffer hdd it has rougly 50.000 h of use
Its currently about 50% full, i ran chkdsk full option and it returned 0 issues.
What else can i do to test it ? or should i just leave it alone cause its fine ? ...
check its smart data with HDTune
 

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Well... it shows no entries in the health tab... did a benchmark and a fast scan... all seemed fine....
So what am i doing wrong ? Do i have to do a full test so that the health tab can be populated ?
 

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well i just did a full option chkdsk ... so i guess it can wait, ty for the info
 

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ah the drive is an OS drive, use crystal disk info to read the smart data. HDTune doesnt show it for OS drives for some reason
 

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ok... these are it :
So.. i dont understand squat from this...
what am i looking at ?
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