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<p><span style="color:#808080;">Whether it was to improve your thermals, your performance, or both, you edited and tried to flash a new BIOS for your GPU but it didn't go over so well. Your PC is now currently failing to POST and your expensive parallel processing monster is nothing more than a big, bulky, oversized paperweight. If that is the case then this guide is for you.</span></p>
<br><br><br><div style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#808080;"><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:x-large;"><b>THE GUIDE</b></span></span></span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-large;">1)</span> You will need to <span style="color:#008000;">find a PCI graphics card/display adapter</span> from somewhere to act as a temporary video output until you can get your PCI-E card functioning properly again. This might involve going out to buy one or pulling one from an older machine or your stash.<br><span style="font-size:large;">*</span><i><b>Feel free to use a PCI-E card instead of a PCI card if your motherboard has two or more PCI-E slots.</b></i><br><span style="font-size:large;">*</span><i>You can also use onboard video if you motherboard has an IGP. The method for switching to it should be similar to the one outlined below.</i><br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">2)</span> Once you have found a PCI GPU go ahead and open your case. Remove the retention bracket of your <span style="color:#ff0000;">PCI-E card</span> and take the card <span style="color:#ff0000;">out of your system</span>. Remember to ground yourself first by touching the metal part of your case before handling any components in order to avoid damaging your components.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">3)</span> Once you have taken your PCI-E card out, insert your <span style="color:#008000;">PCI card into a PCI slot</span>, preferably one that is far away from your PCI-E slot so that it doesn't interfere with letting you put your PCI-E card back in.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">4)</span> <span style="color:#008000;">Hook up</span> your monitor's <span style="color:#008000;">cable to the appropriate output on your PCI card and boot up your computer</span><span>.</span> Hopefully you should POST. If you don't and are getting a strange number of beeps from your motherboard, you might not have inserted your PCI card correctly into the slot and your motherboard is telling you it doesn't detect a VGA.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">5)</span> Right after you post, <span style="color:#ffa500;">enter your BIOS</span> by pressing the appropriate key. Find the setting in your BIOS which sets the primary display adapter. On my motherboard, this is found under Advanced -> Chipset Configuration -> North Bridge Settings, although it may be different for your motherboard.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-large;">6)</span> Change your <span style="color:#ffa500;">primary display adapter</span> from <span style="color:#ffa500;">PEG to PCI</span>. This step will let you POST with your bricked graphics card inserted as the Power-on Self-test will not fail due to the incomplete BIOS present on your PCI-E card because you have switched the primary display to the PCI card.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:large;">*</span><i><b>Disregard this step if you are using a PCI-e backup card instead of a PCI card.</b></i><br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">7)</span> After you have changed the primary display adapter setting, <span style="color:#ff0000;">shut off your computer and insert your PCI-E card back in</span><span style="color:#FF0000;">.</span> You might want to put the retention bracket back on to make sure the card doesn’t get bent.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">8)</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Boot up your computer</span> again and hopefully it will POST if you have done Step #5 correctly. <span style="color:#0000ff;">Continue on into Windows</span>. (Note: If your PCI-E card is ATi card and your PCI card is an nVIDIA card or vice-cersa, I WOULD NOT recommend installing nVIDIA (or ATi) drivers to accommodate your PCI card as the generic Windows display drivers will serve fine for the purpose of this guide).<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">9)</span> When booted into Windows you will need to first of all <span style="color:#ffa500;">make a bootable DOS disk</span><span>.</span> Creating a bootable USB drive is the easiest way, in my opinion, so follow <span style="font-size:14px;"><strong><a href="http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm" target="_blank">this guide</a></strong></span> to make a bootable USB drive.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">10)</span> When you have made a bootable USB drive, <span style="color:#ffa500;">download your favourite BIOS flashing software</span><span>.</span> (Eg. ATIFlash for ATI users and NVFlash for nVIDIA users)<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">11)</span> <span style="color:#008000;">Copy the folder with the software in into the root of the USB drive</span><span>.</span> Make sure to rename the folder to a name with a max of eight characters due to the limitation in DOS.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">12)</span> Find your backup or <span style="color:#008000;">download an original BIOS for your graphics card and copy it into the SAME FOLDER as your flashing software</span> and <span style="color:#ff0000;">give it a name that is also under eight characters and easy to remember.</span><br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">13)</span> <span style="color:#ffa500;">Restart your computer and boot into the USB drive</span><span>.</span> On my computer, this is done by pressing F8 and selecting the USB drive when I see the BIOS splash screen but it may be different for your motherboard.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">14)</span> Navigate to your folder using <span style="color:#ffa500;">“cd [foldername]”.</span><br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">15)</span> <span style="color:#ffa500;">Finally</span><span>,</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">you</span> <span style="color:#008000;">can</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">go</span> <span style="color:#008000;">ahead</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">and</span> <span style="color:#ffa500;">flash</span> <span style="color:#ff0000;">your</span> <span style="color:#008000;">old</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">BIOS</span>. (Using ATIFlash, first find the adapter number done by using <b>“atiflash –i”</b>, then you can flash by <b>“atiflash –f –newbios –p [adapter number] [BIOS_filename].ROM”</b>).</p>
<p><em><span style="font-size:18px;">*</span> Make sure the BIOS file you are flashing has a *.ROM extension. If it doesn't, ATIFlash will not recognize it.</em><br><span style="font-size:large;">**</span> <i>NVFlash commands are different from ATIFlash but are well documented in its guide and readme included with it. So please <b>READ</b> the NVFlash guide before using it.</i><br><span style="font-size:large;">***</span> <i>If your GPU is not detected by ATIFlash or NVFlash see the further troubleshooting section below.</i><br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">16)</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">Shut down</span> your computer using your <span style="color:#FF0000;">power button</span>.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-large;">17)</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">Reboot</span> and then go back into the BIOS. Change the primary display adapter back from <span style="color:#FF0000;">PCI to PEG</span>. Save BIOS settings then shut down.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:large;">*</span><i><b>Disregard this step if you are using a PCI-e backup card instead of a PCI card.</b></i><br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">18)</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">Switch your monitor cable</span> from the PCI card back to your PCI-e card and remove the PCI card if you wish.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">19)</span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">Boot</span> up your computer and you should now be running back on your original GPU again.<br><br><span style="font-size:x-large;">20)</span> <span style="color:#808080;"><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:x-large;"><b>END </b></span></span></span><span><img alt="thumbsupsmiley.png" id="user_yui_3_4_1_2_1331090720175_164" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumbsupsmiley.png"></span><br><br><br><b>---</b><br>
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<a class="spoiler-link H-spoiler-toggle" href="#"><strong>Further Troubleshooting</strong> <span class="spoiler-help">(Click to show)</span></a><div class="spoiler-hidden"><b>Further Troubleshooting:</b><br><br>
If NVFlash and ATIFlash cannot detect your GPU, first make sure that it is <b><span><span style="font-size:medium;">plugged in firmly</span></span></b>. If it is still not being detected, your card may either have died from a hardware failure or has been bricked past recognition<span style="color:#FF0000;">.</span> In this case you may try the methods below:
<p><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b><i>Dire Experimental Methods </i></b></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#FF0000;"><span style="font-size:x-large;">NO GUARANTEE THAT THESE WILL WORK.<br>
TRY <b><i><span style="text-decoration:underline;">COMPLETELY</span></i></b> AT YOUR OWN RISK! IF YOU FAIL, YOUR CARD WILL DIE... PERMANENTLY.</span></span><br>
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<p><a href="http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/593427-how-unbrick-your-bricked-graphics-card.html#post_12185153" target="_blank">Method for ATI cards</a></p>
<p><span style="color:#FF0000;">*The guide linked in the above post is no longer available. It's the 1+8 pin recovery method. <a href="http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115240" target="_blank">This thread on TPU</a> references it. See it if you need any help. I don't provide support for any of these hardware recovery methods.</span><br>
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<p><a href="http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/593427-how-unbrick-your-bricked-graphics-card.html#post_12188574" target="_blank">Method for NVIDIA cards</a></p>
<p><span style="color:#FF0000;">*This link is still available. Again, do this at your own risk. If you have questions about these methods, I can't answer them as I have never attempted them. And I recommend you don't either unless you find it absolutely necessary.</span></p>
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Great job! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"><br>
This'll save my butt when something goes wrong...
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>tiondus</strong> <a href="showthread.php?s=f0ff622456a527c34b14aeab359ee59d&p=7455070#post7455070"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="http://static.overclock.net//img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">If my motherboard has integrated graphic, do I need the other PCI card ?</div>
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Your motherboard SHOULD default to the IGP for output, but don't quote me on that. My motherboard doesn't have an IGP so I can't test it to find out. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"><br><br>
You're welcome to test and see if it works though. If it does, please tell me so I can add it to the guide. Thanks!
 

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Added to the nVidia Essentials Thread. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cheers.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cheers">.
 

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Thanks man great tut all links work great everything went smooth my card is working again <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Great guide. Nice job. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>metallicamaster3</strong> <a href="showthread.php?s=5bd08cb0a2becf66ff9a516b8d226d15&p=7478024#post7478024"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="http://static.overclock.net//img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Added to the nVidia Essentials Thread. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cheers.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cheers">.</div>
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Awesome. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thanks man great tut all links work great everything went smooth my card is working again <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"></div>
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Glad to hear it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Great guide. Nice job. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"></div>
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Thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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Just wondering but will this method also work with AGP ?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just wondering but will this method also work with AGP ?</div>
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I don't think it really matters whether you're trying to fix an AGP, a PCI or PCI-E card, as long as you have a temporary replacement display adapter that you can use.<br><br>
I do think it should work for AGP, you just need to modify the guide a bit by substituting in AGP for wherever I say PEG or PCI-E.
 

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I Need some help, I have been try to fix my bricked 4890 for over a month now and nothing seems to be working.<br><br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/ati/669028-asus-4890-top-bricked-4.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/ati/669028-...bricked-4.html</a><br><br>
I decided the problem might be that the flash drive was on quickformat when formated so I did it normally and still have no luck flashing the card. No matter what I do the pc just wont post with the card after I flash it. I'm all out of ideas that only thing I can really think of is why is the bios file a .Bin file and not .Rom? and also why does the actual flashing of the card take less then 10 seconds? Should it take longer? also after I format the flash drive I can't see the files in the root of the flash drive like it says in the guide....<br><br>
If you have any info I would greatly appriciate it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I Need some help, I have been try to fix my bricked 4890 for over a month now and nothing seems to be working.<br><br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/ati/669028-asus-4890-top-bricked-4.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/ati/669028-...bricked-4.html</a><br><br>
I decided the problem might be that the flash drive was on quickformat when formated so I did it normally and still have no luck flashing the card. No matter what I do the pc just wont post with the card after I flash it. I'm all out of ideas that only thing I can really think of is why is the bios file a .Bin file and not .Rom? and also why does the actual flashing of the card take less then 10 seconds? Should it take longer? also after I format the flash drive I can't see the files in the root of the flash drive like it says in the guide....<br><br>
If you have any info I would greatly appriciate it.</div>
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Flashing the BIOS does not take very long, so less than 10 seconds is actually what you want.<br><br>
The files on the flash drive are hidden, you need to enable the setting in Windows to be able to view hidden files. You don't need to view them anyways so that's not an issue.<br><br>
Are you sure that you're using the correct BIOS?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Flashing the BIOS does not take very long, so less than 10 seconds is actually what you want.<br><br>
The files on the flash drive are hidden, you need to enable the setting in Windows to be able to view hidden files. You don't need to view them anyways so that's not an issue.<br><br>
Are you sure that you're using the correct BIOS?</div>
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Yeah, So far I've used three different bios's. 2 of them were from techpower and are clocked at the asus 4890 top clock but do not confirm they are actual 4890 top bios's ( could be just a overclocked bios) but one of them a got from a follow with the same card.<br><br><br>
edit: Another thing to add is that after the flash I boot up the pc and go to bios to change the settings back to peg and for it to boot from my hd not my flashdrive, at this point I save it and turn it off then get no post and so forth.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yeah, So far I've used three different bios's. 2 of them were from techpower and are clocked at the asus 4890 top clock but do not confirm they are actual 4890 top bios's ( could be just a overclocked bios) but one of them a got from a follow with the same card.<br><br><br>
edit: Another thing to add is that after the flash I boot up the pc and go to bios to change the settings back to peg and for it to boot from my hd not my flashdrive, at this point I save it and turn it off then get no post and so forth.</div>
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Afraid to say this, but I'm stumped man. If you followed my instructions <b>EXACTLY</b>, your card should be up and running fine. Since it's not, you may have bricked it for good. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"><br><br>
You sure it's not a hardware problem? How did it get bricked in the first place?
 
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Afraid to say this, but I'm stumped man. If you followed my instructions <b>EXACTLY</b>, your card should be up and running fine. Since it's not, you may have bricked it for good. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"><br><br>
You sure it's not a hardware problem? How did it get bricked in the first place?</div>
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I bricked it by following some steps on a similar guide, dos flashing made a bootable flash drive and flashed it the same way I'm doing now. I figure it was a normal 4890 bios that was clocked at 4890 top clocks. The thing with my card is that its a non refrence card with some funky fijitsu ram chips or something so I need the exact bios.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I bricked it by following some steps on a similar guide, dos flashing made a bootable flash drive and flashed it the same way I'm doing now. I figure it was a normal 4890 bios that was clocked at 4890 top clocks. The thing with my card is that its a non refrence card with some funky fijitsu ram chips or something so I need the exact bios.</div>
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That's most likely the problem, then. You need your original BIOS. Which is why it's ALWAYS good to make a backup copy of your stock BIOS before loading any new ones.<br><br>
I know it's annoying, but it's true what they: Backups are important. Try contacting ASUS and see if they can direct you to a correct copy of your BIOS.
 

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What is the command line for saving the bios of your card as well as writing your edited bios when using nVflash?
 

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this should be stickied.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">this should be stickied.</div>
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It kind of is.<br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/589760-nvidia-essentials-read-here-before-making.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/5897...re-making.html</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What is the command line for saving the bios of your card as well as writing your edited bios when using nVflash?</div>
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You should backup your original BIOS using <a href="http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/" target="_blank">GPU-Z</a>. Press the button to the left of the BIOS version on GPU-Z to save it.<br><br>
Flashing with NVFlash is as simple as [nvflash "filename.rom"] if you only have a single a graphics adapter installed. If you have more than one, you need to specify using the identified ID. <a href="http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1825/NVFlash_5.95.01.html" target="_blank">NVFlash</a> comes with a comprehensive manual so you use that if need be. There's a lot more options but simply specifying the filename of the new BIOS-ROM you want to flash should work in your case.
 
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