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Hi guys..the title says evrything.
Thing is hyper 212 is 4x costlier than stock intel cooler(if bought) at least in my country.

That thing is also damn big and not that quiet especially i'm using two fans(both are cooler master's.identical)

I also used a premium thermal paste(cooler master's 1) and it's costs usd 10.00(1.5ml only).
My cpu is an old low-end core 2 duo:It's only consuming 30watt(not even oc'ed)

Now i tried best to follow the method's to apply thermal paste for this hyper 212 evo.

But afterall...it let's me down....here's the result.

PRIME95 AND INTEL BURNIN TEST
ON DAY(AMBIENT TEMPERATURE IS ABT 32 CELCIUS...
COOLER MASTER:HIGHEST TEMPERATURE IS 58C:mad:
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IDLE IS 34-36

sTOCK COOLER:HIGHEST TEMPS:62
IDLE:EXACTLY THE SAME
cooler master gives a stupid temperature of 50c at full load where ambient is only 30C.(REALLY HATE IT....though it's lower than stock cooler(cheaper))

on night:evrything is fine and lower temps for both
bt still not satisfied....and i can't just use my computer on night only.

So,as u see the result are annoying for the price.sO,GUYS PLEASE DO HELP TO GET TEMPERATURE DOWN....

Some of solution i think i may need....
1.a perfect method to apply.
2.What thermal paste to use.Good 1 bt not pricier(high price...mostly it's wasting especially if they need to be reapplied after some years!!!).
3.dust it up but hw..dust trapped in gaps between heatpipe and the fins(the curves).
The copper looks like being tarnished..can remove it.
4.the base of it looks like tarnished to....if so...hw to clean....

PLEASE HELP ME PLS
 

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I realize you don't have a high end processor, and I realize it's not overclocked, but 50C under full load is actually not that bad, especially considering the 212 EVO is on the cheaper side of CPU coolers. Personally, I don't notice much difference between thermal pastes, I would never recommend someone spending money on some of these exotic pastes simply because I have never seen vastly different temperatures myself. I just use whatever TIM I'm provided. So my thoughts...

1. As long as you apply the TIM in the center of the CPU and it's not any bigger than a grain of rice, your application if just fine.
2. Thermal paste is all relatively the same, I have found OCZ Freeze to give me the best results actually, closely followed by Noctua's thermal paste.
3. Never hurts to clean all the dust out, find some compressed air or something and really give the fins a good cleaning.
4. I have no idea how to clean the base if it's tarnished, I'm sure there's some solvent out there that can help clean it up. But I'm not much help on that one, sorry
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Sounds more like a case cooling problem than a cooler problem. 32c ambient is big part of problem too but if air inside of case going into cooler when system is working is 38-45c you will obviously see higher CPU readings.

More information about what your case and fans are and what directions each of the fans is blowing would help. Also what GPU you use.

Make sure all our intake and exhaust vents and fans are clean and that your filters (if you have any) are clean. Maybe remove the filters and compare temps. If temps go down with filters removed than you need more powerful fans that can pull air through the filters.

Too many fans out there will only more air if they have no resistance. And case vents, filters, HDD cages, cables, etc. all create resistance to airflow. Most cases will have as much resistance from air in to air out as coolers do. All of my fans are air cooler fans for that reason.
 

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ermm...i don't use a ..it's in open air...ambient is my atmospheric temperature....thanks still
 

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You could try different tim. Replace the cooler Master fans with better ones
I am using 2 gentle typhoon 5400rpm. Not recommended unless you are hard of hearing.
Full load is about 60 on my 3930K I am using the cooler master tim as well. This is at stock and no oc.
 

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To get lower temps in 32c temperatures you will probably need a bigger/better cooler. You will get at least the same and sometimes more rise in CPU / GPU / etc. for every degree your ambient temperature rises. so 58c @ 32c ambient means your CPU is only 26c above ambient. That's exactly what I get running my 980 under a TC14PE or SA SB-E @ 900rpm in. a 22c room. I could speed up the fans but why? 58c is more than 25c below max safe limit.

I know the 212 is not a bad cooler... but it's definitely not anywhere near as good as the top coolers at cooling.
 

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I think I'm having a serious brain fart because I could not see what the problem is lol.

Your ambient is 32c so no matter what, your CPU will be idling (34~36c looks good) at the same temps if you use EVO or the stock intel. No way that will go lower unless you're freezing it, pointing a fan directly or something.

With stress tests if not overclocked, I don't expect to see a massive difference either. On your tests, Cooler Master is already lower by 4 degrees so that's good. I think the EVO will start to shine once you overclock and put more heat into the CPU.
 

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I think the coolers would show more of a difference if it was overclocked. I mean 58 degrees does seem somewhat high for your conditions but it isn't a terrible temperature overall. If you overclocked I wouldn't think that temperature would go up a ton unlike the stock cooler.
 

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Well, I'm no expert in thermodynamics, but from what I do know, the disparity of heat dispersal in relation to surface area decreases as ambient temperature increases. Most people are running in considerably lower tempuratures, like 20c-22c, so it's likely we see a bigger difference in going from a stock cooler to something like the 212 evo.

That being said, I would check a few things to see if your temps could improve. Check your case's airflow, and airflow bottlenecks. (I'm not sure if by open air you meant you had no case or not, if not, then disregard this first part.) If your case has bad venting, one or two (or no) small 80mm fans, you're putting all of the work on the 212's fans in a small space, seriously decreasing their efficiency. With the cooler itself, I'd try a couple reseats. I know my EVO was a little tricky getting it seated and tightened without it moving, so it could be air bubbles in the TIM. The CM paste it comes with should be good enough, you're really not going to see a difference between that and more expensive stuff. Also, how long have you been running with it? I notice after I remove and replace my 212 EVO and paste, the temps drop 3c-4c after a couple days of settling.
 

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Ok...guys thanks a lot...i mean like a lot....I would try any thing to lower temps.....
Just nw tat my cpu is really low....33watt........And just nother thing is 58c good or bad i mean will last like at least 1 more year
 

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Ok...guys thanks a lot...i mean like a lot....I would try any thing to lower temps.....
Just nw tat my cpu is really low....33watt........And just nother thing is 58c good or bad i mean will last like at least 1 more year
Can't tell if 58c is good or bad without knowing exactly what CPU you have. For many that a very safe temperature. For others it's too hot.

Your idle temp is probably wrong because the temperature monitoring is for high temps not low temps and low temps on AMD are virtually non-existent.. it shows a temp but it is not the actual temp. Intel are better but still not accurate at low readings.

Intel i3/i5/i7 are almost all very safe at 70-80c while many AMD have max temp ratings of 55-60c as an example.

Now to confuse the issue "Core Temp" and "CPU Temp" are not the same. Read the below link
http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide
 

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I'd recommend replacing the fans with gentle typhoons or SP120'es or even noctuas if you wanna make your 40$ cooler to 80$ cooler...
The temps are ok, Hyper212 is low end aftermarket CPU cooler, It's not gonna do wonders.
Also you'r ambient temps are really high. Ambien temps affect your CPU temps a lot. if your ambient temps rise 5C you CPU temp rises 5C too. My english isn't perfect thats the best way i can put it
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I'd recommend replacing the fans with gentle typhoons or SP120'es or even noctuas if you wanna make your 40$ cooler to 80$ cooler...
The temps are ok, Hyper212 is low end aftermarket CPU cooler, It's not gonna do wonders.
Also you'r ambient temps are really high. Ambien temps affect your CPU temps a lot. if your ambient temps rise 5C you CPU temp rises 5C too. My english isn't perfect thats the best way i can put it
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Your second sentence contradicts your first sentence.
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Number of pipes and fin area generally trump dollars. Better fans may help some but not as much as a better cooler would.
CPU temp is probably safe but I want to know exactly what the CPU is before saying it is.

Most all really good coolers come with universal mounts and some (Noctua) will give you free updated mounts for new CPUs released after you buy their cooler. (Does not apply to special editions like NH-D14 SE2011) so a premium cooler now for old CPU cab be used years in the future on new CPUs. And if you have to buy a new mount they are only $5-10.00.
 

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What i meant by "it's not gonna do wonders" is that OP shoudn't expect too much from such low end cooler
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New fans would atlest solve the noise problem tho
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Any modern CPU is safe below 60c easily. For intel most say it shouldn't go over 80C while stress testing and some say around 90C. My i5.3570k goes up to 65ish @ 4.5Ghz 1.22V
 

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That thing is also damn big and not that quiet especially i'm using two fans(both are cooler master's.identical)
What're the fans model, are the same that comes with the Evo (XtraFlo)?

I'm using the 212+ push pull with 2 XtraFlo fans (US version 600 rpm - 2000 rpm).
I would say the fans're loud at higher speeds but are pretty quiet around 1000 rpm - 1200 rpm.

3-pin fans like the Sickleflow could be loud running always at max 2000 rpm without speed control.
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My cpu is an old low-end core 2 duo:It's only consuming 30watt(not even oc'ed)
I can't tell about the Core 2 Duo.

My CPU is the Core I5 3550, I guess it should run hotter than the Core 2 Duo.

The cores temps goes around 50 C - 52 C with the Prime95 or IBT.
The fans spin around 750 - 900 rpm during the stress test.
 

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load temps staying down is what matters... also, exponentially less noise than the stock intel HSF. for 20-30 bucks, it may very well be worth it for some people.
 

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Intel core 2 duo...e4600 is my cpu...it's running at 2.4ghz..1.2v default no oc...65nm(unlike todays cpu..32nm or 28nm)
Yes ..i'm only worried abt load temperature(I noe tat's wat matter....Bt this cpu have max temperature of 72.3C..according to intel website..//
And difference in temperature at load is only like 4c or 6c at max compared to stock cooler(10usd in my country)....my setup is nt even inside a case...it's in open air.........+I noe hyper 212...
is not cheap for the job it do(it's basically cooler to keep cpu running optimally and long lasting....just running a little quiet then intel fan doesn't
mean it' should be pricier...I might have change the fan only instead....haiz....bt still thanks..i will try clean my heatsink(although already clean)
Reapply tim in best way....
 
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