I don't know what to do...

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · Mar 11, 2009

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So, I'm having problems with my computer... again!

I've had so many problems with this build, I don't know where to start.
If anybody is interesting in what has happened, here's the previous threads;

http://www.overclock.net/intel-gener...lp-needed.html

http://www.overclock.net/intel-gener...-lock-ups.html

http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...-hdd-help.html

I thought I had it all sorted when I re-installed Windows and didn't install the nForce drivers, this fixed the problems I was having, for a little while.

I had my CPU @ 3.4Ghz for a few months, and it was fine and stable. Then, one day it wouldn't BOOT and would display 'C0' on the POST read-out. I googled it and couldn't find anything. I also looked in the EVGA Manual but there was nothing about a 'C0' error.

Any, I then set it to 3.2Ghz and it was running fine. Now, I'm getting random BSOD's (Yet again!

). Most of the time they're just as it starts to load Windows (with the green bars), but today I just got one when I was doing some video editing.

I don't think it's the PSU, as the most I've ever seen my PC use was 470Watts.

I thought it was the HDDs (as I had one of them break and cause BSODs, got it replaced) but they both passed Drive Fitness Tests. Yet, I some what feel it could be them?

It could be the RAM, I've heard that Ballistix aren't all that great? Yet, they've passed multiple passes of Memtest in the past when I've had problems just like this. I've also heard that the 750i is picky with RAM?

I also get the feeling it could be the MOBO?

I could send the HDD back and get a different one, yet I'm not 100% sure that's the problem and I don't just want them to send it back, as it'd waste my time and theirs.

Same with the MOBO. I could send it back, but I'm not 100% that's the problem, plus, I don't know if I'd get another one (RMA) or go for a different board?

I don't have any other RAM that I can try, or another PSU.

I'm really stuck on what to do. It can't really happen at a worse time, I'm at University so I have loads of work to do and a real lack of money.

Would updating the BIOS help?

Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks

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ltulod

· #2 · Mar 11, 2009

yes, update the bios to the latest.

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 11, 2009

Ok, I'll give that a go and see if it helps any. Can't see it making that much of a difference though. Would be great if it did!

EDIT: Just got another BSOD, this time it was a 'MEMORY_MANAGMENT'.
Oh, I've got my system at stock now, to see if that helps.

twisted_58

· #4 · Mar 11, 2009

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Ok, I'll give that a go and see if it helps any. Can't see it making that much of a difference though. Would be great if it did!

EDIT: Just got another BSOD, this time it was a 'MEMORY_MANAGMENT'.
Oh, I've got my system at stock now, to see if that helps.

it could be your ram. try running memtest with one stick in at a time. sometimes memtest will miss errors when testing on multiple sticks. i saw you already went and got the link for the new bios from the 750i ftw thread so definately do that as well.

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 11, 2009

Alright, I'll try that, thanks for the suggestion! +Rep ltulod and twisted!

Yeah, I'm going to get around to doing that tomorrow night. To be honest, I wouldn't be completely bothered if it was my RAM, since it's pretty cheap these days, and I fancy a change!

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BikePilot

· #6 · Mar 11, 2009

Not sure if it would cause your problems, but the 7200.11's have had some firmware issues I think (not positive it affects the 500gb version though). Of course if you are booting from the 120gb drive and it crashes during boot sometimes, that rules out a .11 firmware problem.

I agree that testing the memory is a good idea. Either way, you'll know more after you run those tests.

good luck!

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 13, 2009

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Not sure if it would cause your problems, but the 7200.11's have had some firmware issues I think (not positive it affects the 500gb version though). Of course if you are booting from the 120gb drive and it crashes during boot sometimes, that rules out a .11 firmware problem.

I agree that testing the memory is a good idea. Either way, you'll know more after you run those tests.

good luck!

Yeah, I'd heard that. However, like you said, I'm booting from the 120GB HDD, so I don't think it could cause it.

Yeah, I'll run Memtest on each stick.

Do you think it could be the PSU at all?

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gablain

· #8 · Mar 13, 2009

rule out you memory with memtest, rule out your cpu with a stress test (prime, occt), and then consider your power supply

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The Fryer

· #9 · Mar 13, 2009

at what fsb is your ram running at when oc'd, it might pass mem test but it still might fail under windows if it is oc'd above its rateing. i had Crucial Ballistix and had to many issues with it becoming unstable after a while of being oc'd. if your memory is i would suggest loosen your timings a little or you divider another notch.

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 13, 2009

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rule out you memory with memtest, rule out your cpu with a stress test (prime, occt), and then consider your power supply

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at what fsb is your ram running at when oc'd, it might pass mem test but it still might fail under windows if it is oc'd above its rateing. i had Crucial Ballistix and had to many issues with it becoming unstable after a while of being oc'd. if your memory is i would suggest loosen your timings a little or you divider another notch.

I had my RAM running at 820Mhz (I think) when I was at 3.4Ghz, then at 800Mhz (stock) when I was at 3.2Ghz. All with the specified voltage of 2.2v.

I'm running my system at stock at the moment, to see if that makes a difference. I guess if it's fine at stock, it kind of suggests it's the PSU or RAM? If it was the MOBO, it'd still do it while stock, right?

Thanks for the help so far!

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Enigma8750

· #11 · Mar 13, 2009

Do a CPUz with the build if possible and validate. Then post the first Screen and the memory screen. this lets us see whats up. Also.. What is your northbridge voltage running at.

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jrharvey

· #12 · Mar 13, 2009

I would not completely rule out the PSU because even if you are only using 400W you PSU may not be able to handle it. Some NEW 650W PSU's cannot handle a load of 600W and yet some can handle much higher. As it ages it starts to get even worse. Just food for thought. What happens when you run a stress test for a long period of time? What happens if you run ATItool and Prime 95 at the same time?

Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 13, 2009

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Here's my CPU-z validation;

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=526251

I have EIST1 enabled, so it's downclocked.

Here's my screenshots;

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I would not completely rule out the PSU because even if you are only using 400W you PSU may not be able to handle it. Some NEW 650W PSU's cannot handle a load of 600W and yet some can handle much higher. As it ages it starts to get even worse. Just food for thought. What happens when you run a stress test for a long period of time? What happens if you run ATItool and Prime 95 at the same time?

I guess so, Yeah. I can run them both now, with my PC at stock. Should I?

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jrharvey

· #14 · Mar 13, 2009

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I guess so, Yeah. I can run them both now, with my PC at stock. Should I?

Well if your system crashes when stressing it and your voltages and settings are good then it could be. How long have you run that setup. I would not think 520W is enough for that rig. 2 8800gts is gonna draw some power in full load. Do you have a friend with a bigger PSU you can test?

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 13, 2009

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Well if your system crashes when stressing it and your voltages and settings are good then it could be. How long have you run that setup. I would not think 520W is enough for that rig. 2 8800gts is gonna draw some power in full load. Do you have a friend with a bigger PSU you can test?

Ok, I'll test it, Thanks.

A few months now, maybe 4.

Unfortunately, I don't

I'm going to update the BIOS now though.

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The Fryer

· #16 · Mar 13, 2009

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Well if your system crashes when stressing it and your voltages and settings are good then it could be. How long have you run that setup. I would not think 520W is enough for that rig. 2 8800gts is gonna draw some power in full load. Do you have a friend with a bigger PSU you can test?

ouch i didnt notice that.. you might not have nough power.. i just had to order a new psu the other night for my rig.. i have a 525w psu and it caint keep up with 8800gts 320mb g80. it is ok with everything at stock but if i oc i notice my power fluctuate bad. download this prog and run everything you can to stress your system then tell me the lowest and highest 12v+ you get..

http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php
it is a good free program that i use alot as well.

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Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 15, 2009

How can I read my +12v readings?

Also, if my RAM may be causing the instability, and I run Memtest with my system now (all at stock, had no BSOD's) you think it'll pick up errors? Or do you think my RAM will have to be OC'ed for it to pick any errors up?

Thanks!

Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 17, 2009

Ran Memtest individually on 3 out of my 4 sticks now, making sure I keep them in their corresponding slots. (So, when I have 4GB installed, I have stick two in slot two, so I've had stick two in slot two when testing).

Stick One (Slot 1) : 18 Passes = No Errors
Stick Two (Slot 2) : 22 Passes = No Errors
Stick Three (Slot 3 : 14 Passes = No Errors

I don't know what to do if stick Four doesn't find any errors.

I've not had any problems with my system at stock, would I need to OC my RAM (to the same speed I had it at when I was at 3.2Ghz) for it to find errors?

Kornowski

Discussion Starter · #19 · Mar 19, 2009

Haven't tested the last stick yet, but I just remembered my RAM was at stock when I was at 3.2Ghz (getting BSODs). Should I manually up the speed of the RAM and test it then?

I also tried for 3.4Ghz again (after having flashed the BIOS) and I get the same 'C0' error on the post read out, though it isn't listed in the booklet and I can't find anything on the web.

Don't know what to think now, any ideas?

TwoCables

· #20 · Mar 19, 2009

It could either need more voltage somewhere (like core, FSB, Northbridge or whatever - it's more basic with my mobo), or perhaps it may not do 3.40GHz. I mean, I consider that my friend's 1.312V VID q6600 needs 1.480V just to be stable at 3.40GHz, so I can only imagine what a 1.3250V VID q6600 would need for that.

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