I need help

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Moebieus

Discussion Starter · Sep 30, 2012

Hey Guys,
So I am trying to sleeve my Seasonic 1000w Platinum.....
Lets just say its not going well at all.

I have tried everything to try and get the pins out but nothing works.
I don't even here a click, I wiggle the wires and twist and turn and push in and out to try and prep them to remove them from the connector but nothing helps.
I have searched and searched (youtube videos, the threads here)

I have tried paper clips, staples, even MDPC's removal tool.

I place the prongs between the pin and plastic housing and make sure its there and not in the pin itself.
Then I start to push in the tool, or what have you, while pushing in the wire as well but I hear no clicks.

Someone please give me a heads up if you see anything wrong here from my description.
I can't imagine that its that difficult to remove the pins from the connector, I know they said its hard but didn't know it would be this difficult.

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Evilsplashy

· #2 · Sep 30, 2012

I come from personal experience sleeving Seasonic PSUs. I'll be honest, it's the hardest PSU to sleeve. The pins are almost impossible to get in and out of the slot, but you can do it.

You have to pull hard. I mean hard. It won't feel right, but that's what you have to do. Also, make sure you're pushing both the side pin things down to release the pin

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Moebieus

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 30, 2012

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Originally Posted by Evilsplashy

I come from personal experience sleeving Seasonic PSUs. I'll be honest, it's the hardest PSU to sleeve. The pins are almost impossible to get in and out of the slot, but you can do it.
You have to pull hard. I mean hard. It won't feel right, but that's what you have to do. Also, make sure you're pushing both the side pin things down to release the pin

Isn't it funny, every where I look says be careful, its like Sea sonic said hey let's make that rule obsolete haha, I just did one. Took the cord and wrapped it around my finger and pulled straight out, fins are fine. Guess I was just being to gentle, broke my pin remover but ordered another, I suspected the first one would break, helped me learn the thresh hold, as I always say can't learn anything unless you make your own mistakes

Also any idea on how to remove these inline connectors/pins?

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Evilsplashy

· #4 · Sep 30, 2012

Yeah, you have to be careful, but be forceful at the same time lol. And for those, I have no idea how to do them. I had a friend do them

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Moebieus

Discussion Starter · #5 · Sep 30, 2012

Yup this is going to test my patience haha, right now I am pulling the wires to just practice sleeving, want to try it out on wires I won't be using first to get the hang of it, then going to my make my own wires.

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mandrix

· #6 · Oct 3, 2012

That looks like the punchdown type connector. Just yank the wires out. If they are the punchdown type you can reuse them if you are careful. The contacts are like sharp blades that cut into the wire insulation but not the wire itself.

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Moebieus

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 4, 2012

Thanks mandrix, just didn't want to mess anything up =D I am assuming I could move them closer to the end plug without any issues?

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pratesh

· #8 · Oct 5, 2012

I see you got some problems with your sleeving. Now, I'm a pretty strong guy(am I convincing you yet?

), and anyways, I never really had issues sleeving the Seasonic PSU's. I did some cables from both the Seasonic X 1000 Platinum and the X 1250 Gold. Never had any issues there. In fact, although they are harder to de-pinn than most others, they are still pretty easy. The biggest issue for me was the doubled pin wires, but after 2-3 goes, I got them perfect. In fact, although its not Lutro level I'm sure he'd say I did pretty well. lol

Anyways, I have broken some pins on the 2x 8(PCIE) pin connector that connects to the 12 pin connector for the PSU side, and that occurred when I was using the staples method. Since moving to the Molex tool(that I got from MDPC) i've had no broken pins. As for the sata power cables, what I did was I made 2 sets of sata power cables. The first set, I used the existing cable and only moved the connectors closer so that there were less bulging cables. The second set, I crimped new cables that were all black and then moved the cables together.

My method for using these Sata connectors is pretty simple. All I do is use my Xacto knife and on the spot I want the connector, roll the blade on the wires. That way, I cut some of the plastic protection but I don't damage the wire. When I'm done with that, i take the wire and stick it into the connector. I generally use a snipper or a small pliers to force the cables as far down as possible. When I'm done sending the wires down, I hold both sides of the wires on the connector and remove them again to check that the wire has now been exposed, thus facilitating current to flow. If it is exposed, I set the wires back into place and put the protective back-piece onto the connector and move on. If it is not "exposed" I use my knife and open the contact point being careful not to damage the wire as I strip some more plastic off the wire. When I'm done I set the wires back again and move on to the nest connector.

Hope I helped.

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Moebieus

Discussion Starter · #9 · Oct 5, 2012

Yea pratesh, it takes a little more force then I thought would be safe

I guess in my head I was ready for an extremely difficult task from all the posts on here about my PSU but in all reality I use a Molex tool, the one Nil's is based off of since the MDPC tool I ordered was broke from my not knowing its limits since it was my first time using a tool like that

I still use staples sometimes though and go back and forth some are much easier with the tool, some with the staples.

As for the SATA connectors thanks for the heads up, I pulled them out and inspected and figured them out pretty good.
One thing I will add, if people feel safe on doing this (this is my method) I put the tool or staples into the slot the pin is located that I want to remove, and first push the wire in some to help my "tools" reach the pins easier then I take the wire and wrap it around my finger once and pull out straight. Seems pretty easy with a little force ofc.

Here is a couple of wires I have done so far:

I finished the wires yesterday on that one set but haven't taken another picture, still trying to tame the wires....
If anyone knows an easy way to this let me know, I am assuming clamps?

One last note everything I know I have learned from Mike's(Lutro0) tutorials so I would suggest checking out the OP's first post its all great information, and his YouTube videos are a godsend, without him I would of never started out on this journey so anyone just starting and looking for a push, he is the guy to help you!

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mandrix

· #10 · Oct 5, 2012

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Originally Posted by pratesh

I see you got some problems with your sleeving. Now, I'm a pretty strong guy(am I convincing you yet?

), and anyways, I never really had issues sleeving the Seasonic PSU's. I did some cables from both the Seasonic X 1000 Platinum and the X 1250 Gold. Never had any issues there. In fact, although they are harder to de-pinn than most others, they are still pretty easy. The biggest issue for me was the doubled pin wires, but after 2-3 goes, I got them perfect. In fact, although its not Lutro level I'm sure he'd say I did pretty well. lol
Anyways, I have broken some pins on the 2x 8(PCIE) pin connector that connects to the 12 pin connector for the PSU side, and that occurred when I was using the staples method. Since moving to the Molex tool(that I got from MDPC) i've had no broken pins. As for the sata power cables, what I did was I made 2 sets of sata power cables. The first set, I used the existing cable and only moved the connectors closer so that there were less bulging cables. The second set, I crimped new cables that were all black and then moved the cables together.
My method for using these Sata connectors is pretty simple. All I do is use my Xacto knife and on the spot I want the connector, roll the blade on the wires. That way, I cut some of the plastic protection but I don't damage the wire. When I'm done with that, i take the wire and stick it into the connector. I generally use a snipper or a small pliers to force the cables as far down as possible. When I'm done sending the wires down, I hold both sides of the wires on the connector and remove them again to check that the wire has now been exposed, thus facilitating current to flow. If it is exposed, I set the wires back into place and put the protective back-piece onto the connector and move on. If it is not "exposed" I use my knife and open the contact point being careful not to damage the wire as I strip some more plastic off the wire. When I'm done I set the wires back again and move on to the nest connector.
Hope I helped.

I'm not sure what it is about the Seasonic psu wiring, some have problems removing pins and some do not. I can tell you without a doubt my first Seasonic platinum 1000 would have given anyone a fit. I tried the molex tool and staples and still ended up breaking several wires. Might be a hit or miss thing, as my second Seasonic platinum 1000 for my new build is incredibly easy to depin. Maybe they changed something, I don't know, as these were bought several months apart.

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pratesh

· #11 · Oct 5, 2012

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Originally Posted by mandrix

I'm not sure what it is about the Seasonic psu wiring, some have problems removing pins and some do not. I can tell you without a doubt my first Seasonic platinum 1000 would have given anyone a fit. I tried the molex tool and staples and still ended up breaking several wires. Might be a hit or miss thing, as my second Seasonic platinum 1000 for my new build is incredibly easy to depin. Maybe they changed something, I don't know, as these were bought several months apart.

Thats the funny thing. I bought the Platinum maybe 5 months before I bought the 1250 W one. And I have also worked on XFX's X1250 which is a version of the Seasonic X1250. I thought at first that some were difficult and some were easy because I saw alot of people complaining, but between these 3 models, I've only broken pins on the Platinum and that was when I was now trying out the staples method. So I'm not quite sure.

Either ways If my PSUs were easier to sleeve, I thank god. However, my goal from the start was to buy wire and crimp my own connectors. So far the results have been pretty good. I wonder if the "Freedom" of not having to worry about broken connectors had me yanking the cables more than other people? I don't think so, as I was somewhat cautious because of the experiences OCN members shared about the pins breaking etc, so I don't think I was yanking out these cables. At most, I had to wiggle the cables. Still I only had maybe 3 broken connectors................well actually 2 were bent and 1 was broken.

As we are on the topic of sleeving, can someone tell me why FTWPC isn't restocking its Molex Crimp connectors. I wanna get to make my own molex cables, but it looks like I'll have to go to frozencpu or performancepcs.

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mandrix

· #12 · Oct 5, 2012

Don't know about FTWPC, but not sure who is selling real molex and who isn't. I know a while back I got some with real short flanges or wings on the part that crimps in the insulation and I threw them away.
You could check around, or order directly from Newark or Mouser I suppose. I've ordered the little pins for front panel to motherboard connectors stuff from them but not the minifits, although I know they sell them.
The last good ones I got came from MDPC since I already had an order with Nils I went ahead and got pins.

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