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i7 Overclocking theory.

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I've done a bit of research, but I want to be 100% sure I know my stuff before I go tweaking things and destroy my baby...


So, to my understanding the basic information for the i7-920 goes as follows...

Multipliers:

Core - x20 (X21 in Turbo)
Uncore - x16 (must be twice ram, 8:9 to QPI preferred... the closer to 1:1, the more unstable)
QPI - x18 (locked on some boards???)
Memory - x8 (Locked on some boards???)

Voltages:

Core - 1.2v stock, 1.375 max allowable under spec
Uncore - (Don't know stock, must be within .5v of memory)
QPI - 1.1v stock, some claim it should match core, but I'm not sure why
Memory - 1.65v theoretical maximum due to potential harm to cpu, but generally it's considered safe at 1.66v (must be within .5v of Uncore)

Stock Freqencies:

Stock Bclk = 133.
Stock Core = 2.66
Stock UnCore = 2.13ish
Stock QPI = 2.4Ghz (4.8GT/s)
Stock Memory = 1066

To reach the 4.0Ghz goal (with ram at rated speed of 1600) the following would be true:

===EDIT==This may be unstable due to the ratio between the Uncore and QPI===
Bclk = 200
Core = 4.0 (x20)
Uncore = 3.2 (x16)
QPI = 3.6 (7.2GT/s) (x18)
Mem = 1600 (x8)

Safe settings:
Bclk = 200
Core = 4.0 (x20)
Uncore = 2.4 (x12)
QPI = 3.6 (7.2GT/s) (x18)
Mem = 1200 (x6)


If ANY of this is even remotely incorrect, PLEASE correct me and explain why.
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In theory, yes. In practice, 200x20 with RAM at 1600 can often be unstable for no obvious reason. The explanation is here.

With uncore at 3.2 and QPI at 3.6 (7200) you should be fine.
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What mobo do you have that locks the QPI and Ram? Mine does not have anything locked and my QPI runs at X18 and will go all the way to X24.

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Core i7 920 - 2.66GHz, 20x133MHz, 4.8GT/s QPI (2.4GHz), QPI multiplier 18x (18x133MH
http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...04/#post242642
I'm not sure if the QPI is locked, I just read that the QPI is locked on "budget i7s", so I assumed it applied to me.

I'm using an Asus P6T Deluxe V2 (hasn't actually arrived at my house yet, lol. I research quite a bit in advance.)

It says that 1066 and 1333 rams speeds are supported, the rest say OC* next to them, so I'm assuming the multiplier doesn't go higher than that on this board. Again, the source I was reading from said that the maximum Intel supports is 1066 (So, I guess I was incorrect.)
I think my QPI math is incorrect... maybe that's what's throwing me off.

"Core i7 920 - 2.66GHz, 20x133MHz, 4.8GT/s QPI (2.4GHz), QPI multiplier 18x (18x133MHz)"
So, 4.8 is the "GigaTransfers/second"... I was thinking it was 4.8Ghz. So, the multi should actually be 18, not 36. hmmm...
Right. at 4.8GT/s the QPI is running at 2.4GHz. (This is why some boards will show a 18x multi and others will show a 36x multi.)
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Right. at 4.8GT/s the QPI is running at 2.4GHz. (This is why some boards will show a 18x multi and others will show a 36x multi.)
Ah ha, I should probably keep that in mind.

Is there a thread with all this information consolidated? If not, maybe we should start one.


(and is there anything else I'm missing?)
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Ok, after reading that article, I should be rock solid at these settings, right?

bclk = 200
core = 4.0 (x20)
uncore = 2.4 (x12)
QPI = 3.6 (x18)
Mem = 1200 (x6)

And if I'm lucky....

bclk = 222
core = 4.44 (x20)
uncore = 2.66 (x12)
QPI = 4.0 (x18)
Mem = 1332 (x6)
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don't forget, qpi/vtt volts have to be within .5 of vdimm
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Originally Posted by Autox
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don't forget, qpi/vtt volts have to be within .5 of vdimm

Is that uncore voltage to Memory voltage?
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Is that uncore voltage to Memory voltage?

yes
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What mobo do you have that locks the QPI and Ram? Mine does not have anything locked and my QPI runs at X18 and will go all the way to X24.

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...04/#post242642

i think he's referring to LGA1156 boards.
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So, I'm revisiting my overclock. I actually forgot a lot of this information since I originally did it.

I'm having quite a bit of trouble with the heat. With a clock speed of 3.33Ghz, this thing idles between 47-49c and loads gets up to 80 (before I kill the linpack test). The ambient temperature in my house was 78F (25.5c) at the time I tested it.

I'm not sure why it's getting so hot. Does a 55c increase over ambient room temperature sound correct for a Noctua NH-U12P SE2 cooler?
So, it appears that my cpu likes to take it easy on the voltage. I originally set the voltage to 1.25v in order to overclock higher without running into stability issues. Unfortunately, I ran into heat issues first.

So, I dropped the voltage down to 1.2v first, everything ran perfectly. Then I overclocked the cpu further to 3.67Ghz and dropped the voltage down a bit further to 1.175v.

20 passes of LinX and 10 hours of Prime95 completed. No errors yet.
Now I'm running 300Mhz faster than my previous overclock at around 5c cooler.
1366 i7 cpu have unlocked uncore multis 16-42 even numbers and 3 settings for qpi, 4 if you count the qpi slow mode 12x(slow mode), 18X (default), 20x, 24x.
and memory multis are 6-16 in even numbers.
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