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WE MANAGED TO learn the official NDA expiry date and the launch of AMD's quad core offering....Quadfather or the 4x4 as AMD marketeers have it, is actually a dual die quad core chip, using the Opteron processor socket and will launch on November 14th.

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</div>In related news: Ronin decides upon his next build platform and knows approximately when he'll buy it.
 

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</div> lol 4x4 is a platform not a CPU.
 

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The Inquirer messing up even worse than normally
 

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nit-picking... I'm sure they know it's the platform and not the rebranded opterons...<br />
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I am most excited about its support of non-ecc DDR2.
 

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Since when is Quadfather a dual die chip? I thought there were actual pics of some dual-socket mobos for quadfather <img src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">nit-picking... I'm sure they know it's the platform and not the rebranded opterons...</div>

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</div>Look at the article. They state clearly that it is a chip - Kentsfield-style
 

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I am most excited about its support of non-ecc DDR2.</div>

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</div>Not nit picking.... I think the Inquirer is confusing stuff highly tehre<br />
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I would not believe a word from them
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Since when is Quadfather a dual die chip? I thought there were actual pics of some dual-socket mobos for quadfather <img src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Look at the article. They state clearly that it is a chip - Kentsfield-style</div>

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</div>Yes it's two opterons packaged together each one being a single die dual core processor. Considering that <b>one</b> 2200 series 2.6 ghz processor is $900 getting two for $999 is a rockin' deal.<br />
Okay fair enough... here's the article linked <i>within</i> that one..<br />
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...AMD will respond by introducing the QuadFather platform, marketing dubbed the 4x4. The platform consists of Opteron workstation motherboards using Socket 1207 and equipped with two PCIe x16 slots for graphics cards and retail packaged CPUs

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<div style="font-style:italic">Okay fair enough... here's the article linked <i>within</i> that one..</div>

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</div>That's one of the things I'm confused about. Here is what the newer article says.<br />
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Quadfather or the 4x4 as AMD marketeers have it, <b>is actually a dual die quad core chip</b>,

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</div>Their articles don't match, yet the newer one reads as if the articles are compatible
 

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I really don't understand why AMD won't just put everything on AM2. There are people that doesn't even know about AM2 and AMD is coming out with AM2+, AM3 and Socket F..
 

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</div>It is technically dual die... it's two distinct processors each one single die/dual core (Santa Rosa from the looks of it).<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">I really don't understand why AMD won't just put everything on AM2. There are people that doesn't even know about AM2 and AMD is coming out with AM2+, AM3 and Socket F..</div>

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</div>The AM2 platform is going to get shoved out of the spotlight for a little while, so AMD can handle the emergency that is Kentsfield, but as single AMD procs improve then AM2, then AM2+ and AM3 (all compatible) will retake the limelight.<br />
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</div>the article specifies one chip. It uses singular labels twice - leading me to think it was intentional
 

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</div>if you can think of a way to make one chip work simultaneously in dual sockets then <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /><br />
at the worst they're guilty of forgetting a couple of <i>s</i>'s.<br />
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I'm tickled that I'll see another paycheck before this beast launches ^_^
 

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Nitpicking a typo? Low in my books..<br />
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Anyways, the reason why it cant be done with the SAME effect on AM2 is because Socket F has more HT link's and is alot more scalable than AM2. Its not the exact same thing, Socket F Opteron's are actually overall more superior chips compared to the mainstream, they are to say "beefier". so thats why. More HT links = more that can be dedicated between the 2 cpu's to communicate with each other and the rest of the computer.
 

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Anyways, the reason why it cant be done with the SAME effect on AM2 is because Socket F has more HT link's and is alot more scalable than AM2. Its not the exact same thing, Socket F Opteron's are actually overall more superior chips compared to the mainstream, they are to say "beefier". so thats why. More HT links = more that can be dedicated between the 2 cpu's to communicate with each other and the rest of the computer.</div>

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</div>Yup yup it's all about the hyper-transport! <b>Plus!</b> each processor will have it's own bank of RAM and on-die memory controller! Straight blowing away intel's memory model.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yup yup it's all about the hyper-transport! <b>Plus!</b> each processor will have it's own bank of RAM and on-die memory controller! Straight blowing away intel's memory model.</div>
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ok just to get somthin str8, i thought that AMD's quad core cpu's were gona be 4 cores on one chip. not 2 dual core cpu's.<br />
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i'm usually an amd person, but if thats how there gona do it and if the prices are as high as i'v seen then i'll be goin intel for quad core
 

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AMD is also working on Quad Core CPUs, but that's a different story. I don' know when these will be out.<br />
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The technology 4x4 consists of a dual socket motherboard with two dual core CPUs (and in the future likely two quad core CPUs).
 

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When AMD goes quad core (somewhere around 2h'07) they will be using "true quad core" dies. Meaning as opposed to Kentsfield which is essentially 2 Conroe's stacked on top of each other, AMD's quad core will be 4 cores all on 1 day, each taking well, 25% of the space on the die. It does offer some efficiency bonuses.
 
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