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[Inquirer] AMD on HD58xx shortages

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AMD on HD58xx shortages: Dave Baumann speaketh

SPEAKING WITH AMD's 5800-series Product Manager, Dave Baumann, we tried to get him to share a bit of his wisdom.

Over the past few weeks consumers, AIBs and distributors alike have been concerned about AMD's availability on its flagship 5800-series graphics cards, or rather, anything built on 40nm coming out of TSMC's ovens. It now seems there was some reason to worry, but AMD has promised to get things sorted in no time.

We rang up AMD to get its input on what's going on, just in case Saint Nick had a different idea on what to stick down our stockings. Dave Baumann took the lead and we fired off a few volleys of questions. Dave Baumann is Product Manager for the 5800-series graphics cards and the guy to quiz on all things Evergreen related.

The conversation started off with the rather blunt question, "What's up with this TSMC yields deal?" Not the most subtle of approaches, we must confess, but it set the tone for the call.

Dave Baumann explained that right off the block, wafers were coming out every week. "Thousands per week with AIBs. Tens of thousands in the next weeks." Sounds like good news, of course, but the chip was naturally harder to make. "It is a much bigger chip, higher priced and with different TAM expectations," added Baumann. And when compared to its predecessor, the "RV770 was a much higher volume chip anyway."

Apparently the problem occurred seven weeks ago at TSMC. Although AMD didn't disclose the reason for what happened, production was stunted and the master marketing plan was pushed out six weeks - but not launch dates, mind you. As mentioned by Charlie Demerjian in his article here, AMD sources seem to be as much in the dark about the specifics of what happened as we are. Baumann insisted that despite the constraint overall yields have been increasing steadily...

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Well... it's good news... kinda...
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Well, these shortages are making it pretty damn easy to wait for Fermi at least.
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MrDeodorant
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The card's power components are in fact built to withstand a huge 400W TDP, but AMD kept things in check to conform to PCIe standards, just shy of 300W.
Overclocking headroom, indeed.
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Overclocking headroom, indeed.
But, does the cooler have the headroom....
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But, does the cooler have the headroom....
thats what water cooling was invented for
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But, does the cooler have the headroom....

coolers can easily be changed
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Originally Posted by Dylan
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But, does the cooler have the headroom....

The 5970's cooler has a 400w TDP.
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coolers can easily be changed

Indeed, but, all of their marketing propaganda about the headroom shows the card with the reference design. So I'm wondering if the stock cooling can take at least some overclocking.
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MrDeodorant
If you're trying to push an extra 100 watts through a stock cooler, any computing stock cooler, you'll get no sympathy from me when the part dies.
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MagicBox
Exactly. If you wanted to OC up to 100 watts more usage, it at least won't be the card holding you back
That's the point. Cooling is the part you have to fix.
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The stock cooler is fine for overclocking up to ~1Ghz+.
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The stock cooler is fine for overclocking up to ~1Ghz+.

I wish they allowed users to keep the dual heat plates and replace just the GPU cooler with a aftermarket one.
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