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In addition, the game clearly shows how much VRAM you will also need: the Ultra package at least 6GB on, while high package be satisfied 3GB year over year.
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Couldn't find an english article on this but will update the news post if one pops up. Interesting to see if benchmarks actually back up the need for this much VRAM.
 

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Cool but what card did they use to develop? GTX Titan?
 

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Thats 2 game comfirming the need of over 3gb yet not so long ago if you said that this would exactly happen every 780ti owners would take a pleasure explaning to you how "wrong" you where.

Kinda sad even high end cards like the 980 won't even meet the requirement. I just wonder if it's going to impact that much how textures look.
 

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as I said b4.. new console port = Large VRAM req.

it has begun....
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GTX950/960 4Gb > 780ti 3GB:D
 
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Thats 2 game comfirming the need of over 3gb yet not so long ago if you said that this would exactly happen every 780ti owners would take a pleasure explaning to you how "wrong" you where.

Kinda sad even high end cards like the 980 won't even meet the requirement. I just wonder if it's going to impact that much how textures look.
Sounds to me like a laziness issue more than a quality texture situation. If the developers know they have 3-5 gigs of Vram to play with they probably won't compress textures or optimize things as much...

I'm not upgrading my 7950s for another year at least. I'll really see how my "lack" of Vram affects my gaming experience....
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i believe this is absurd. The most advanced GPUs now are 4GB "yes there are 6GB' but they are special editions.. either this ultra settings look super impressive with tons of details or it's terribly optimized and i tend to believe in the later. devs are as usual so lazy with imports optimization ....
 
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Thats 2 game comfirming the need of over 3gb yet not so long ago if you said that this would exactly happen every 780ti owners would take a pleasure explaning to you how "wrong" you where.

Kinda sad even high end cards like the 980 won't even meet the requirement. I just wonder if it's going to impact that much how textures look.
This game looks like it might be be able to have awesome visuals with massive textures, but a game developed by JP studio that is primarily a ps3/360 title that is being ported to PC/PS4/Xbone? I'll give Mordor the benefit of the doubt but Evil Within is just a joke list of "recommended" specs.

Though I guess Evil Within could be the new GTA IV and a new benchmark of atrocious ports! 3GB will still be fine for the conceivable future and won't be truly needed for another year or two save for maybe a handful titles.
 

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How many video cards at the consumer level have 6GB of vram right now?
 

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I said how a $700 card with only 3gb of vram was rubbish at launch of the 780ti. yes performance was good but you can get 3gb of vram on a 7950 for $200. GTX 690, 2gb of vram was awful even then. Some say but but games didn't require it but I looked at what I wanted to do with settings and mods and value and thought NVidia is awfully tight with their vram, do not want.

Also more importantly 780ti SLI has so much GPU power and a tiny amount of vram its shocking to me anyone would bother. Such a waste of GPU power like the 690 was not long after. Instead of supporting that you should've got 680 4gb for SLI instead of a 690

A $700 GPU released 10 months ago should come with 6gb of vram, I don't care what you say. its poor value and its about time NVidia started upping their game. 970 is not bad
 

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This doesn't surprise me at all. I've been saying since 2012 that with the new consoles coming the GTX 600 and 700 (the ones based on GK104) series' 2 GB of VRAM wasn't going to be enough and why I wouldn't buy one of those cards.

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I usually buy Nvidia cards, and although AMD seems to be doing a good job on both an architecture and now drivers, I'm still favoring Nvidia. However, having a GTX 480, I just can't justify buying a Kepler based card. Not even a GTX 670, which I think is overpriced for what it offers. Next year, with the new consoles coming out, PC games will start using more resources and with it more VRAM. Now, the GTX 680 and GTX 670 only come with 2 GB of VRAM, with 4 GB being more expensive, many times by € 50, while AMD 7900 series cards have 3 GB of VRAM. My bet is that the top of the line Kepler cards will drop a lot in price in the first half of next year. But even then, I still wouldn't buy one, these Keplers always seemed like an interim solution. to be honest, not even at € 200 I would buy one, I will wait for a proper high-end card, with a 384-bit memory bus and 3 GB of VRAM.
 

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How many video cards at the consumer level have 6GB of vram right now?
Titans and 295X2 and some extreme 7970
 

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Originally Posted by kingduqc View Post

Thats 2 game comfirming the need of over 3gb yet not so long ago if you said that this would exactly happen every 780ti owners would take a pleasure explaning to you how "wrong" you where.

Kinda sad even high end cards like the 980 won't even meet the requirement. I just wonder if it's going to impact that much how textures look.
I think there's a significant difference between Shadow of Mordor asking for 6 GB for ultra textures, yet scaling down to 1 GB on low, and The Evil Within not even being guaranteed to run properly on less than 4 GB. Even if 6 GB is unrealistic now, it will increase the longevity of the game because it will take longer before the textures get outdated. Crysis could not realistically run at max settings on a single GPU card when it released, but that also made it live much, much longer than it otherwise would have. This ultra texture option will also largely eliminate the need for "HD texture mods" that are so prevalent in many other games.

I am sure that The Evil Within will have a lower texture quality option since they insist that 4 GB is the recommended requirement to play the game "as the developers intended", but it doesn't really say anything about the actual requirement, it could need just 512 MB to run at high texture settings and the developer could still claim that the 4 GB ultra setting is needed for the "optimal playing experience" (completely ignoring that playing the game with low resolution textures is better than not playing it at all). It is a huge mistake by Bethesda/Tango not to give us minimum requirements.
 

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How many video cards at the consumer level have 6GB of vram right now?
Titan
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Custom 780s (very few models)
Custom 7970s (very few models)
Custom 290Xs (8GB sapphire model, only around 250 made, only sold in UK and germany)

+ some GK104 based mobile GPUs.
 

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Ridiculous. Although I will not play this game because of other reasons, I see this only as a gimmick to get people to buy more cards/better cards.

But to think that 2GB are no longer enough...
 

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I commend developers for upping the recommended hardware requirements to push a long PC hardware. But I doubt this game requires 6GB+ of VRAM for its ultra textures.

1.) It's a fairly small game and games bigger than it doesn't consume anywhere close to 6GB of VRAM.

2.) Many "next-gen" games that had absurd recommended hardware requirements turned out to be all lies. Just look at Watch Dogs.
 

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Titan
Titan Black
Titan Z
Custom 780s (very few models)
Custom 7970s (very few models)
Custom 290Xs (8GB sapphire model, only around 250 made, only sold in UK and germany)

+ some GK104 based mobile GPUs.
doesn't the 295X carry 8GB Vram?
 

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doesn't the 295X carry 8GB Vram?
Yes but it's mirrored (and due to this only has 4GB usable) because the 295X2 is just CFX on a stick.
 

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I don't think it is a gimmick, just a paradigm shift. Video cards will be made with more VRAM from now on, that's about it. And yes recent/expensive models can go obsolete in the process. 15 years ago even potent processors could be junk after 18 months.
 
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