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hey im starting to wonder if its possible my buddy's computer is overheating? its always freezing at random times and sometimes it wont even boot up into windows without being slow as hell.. but leaving the computer off for a good half to full hour does the trick.. but then theres no telling when its going to freeze again. here is my friends specs:<br><br>
Thermaltake 420 watt PSU<br>
Thermaltake Soprano Case<br>
san diego 3700+<br>
asus a8n<br>
geforce 7800 GT<br>
seagate 7200.9 150 gig hard drive*<br>
4x512MB OCZ RAM = 2 gigs<br>
dvd burner<br><br>
the video cards drivers report it to be running at 60 degrees celcius so i think his video card overheating is out of the question. and his PSU is sufficient enough for this sytem right???<br><br>
*we've had the hard drive RMA'd before due to similar problems with the hard drive being the suspect. since these similar problems are happening again im not sure whether to condemn the hard drive again..
 

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Try swapping out the PSU, might be a insufficient/faulty/dying unit.
 

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is that 60 load or idle?<br />
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CPU temps?
 

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try taking out 2 of those sticks. amd are known for having trouble with 4 sticks of ram <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> see if that helps <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 

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or with 4 sticks make sure you aer running 2t on the memory
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Try swapping out the PSU, might be a insufficient/faulty/dying unit.</div>

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</div>well i dont have a decent PSU myself to test his computer with.. i have a generic one that came with my computer's case.. is there any way to verify his PSU is bad? i have a voltmeter/digital multi-meter that can measure voltage.. what lines should i test and what kind of voltage readings should i see?<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">is that 60 load or idle? <br />
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</div>this is at idle.. is this actually high for idle? the most work hell put his video card to use for is when he plays counter-strike: source, which is the only game he plays on his computer. i had him enable the option of being notified if his core temperature ever exceeded 85 degrees. so we'd know if his video card would be overheating right?<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">try taking out 2 of those sticks. amd are known for having trouble with 4 sticks of ram <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> see if that helps <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>if hes having problems because he has 4 RAM sticks in use wouldnt that be ridiculous enough to get either a new mobo for free or two sticks of 1 giggers for free? it would be ridiculous to sell a mobo with 4 slots that crashes when all 4 slots are used.. thats like selling a 4 seater car but no one is to sit in the back seat or the car will not operate properly..<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">or with 4 sticks make sure you aer running 2t on the memory</div>

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</div>ok i'll have him make sure he's running 2T on the memory.<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">Is it overclocked and what is the cpu temp?</div>

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</div>no, the computer is not overclocked whatsoever. i dont know where to go to check the cpu temperature.. do i need to have a certain driver installed or is it available to see already? am i suppose to check in BIOS? if so, how am i suppose to know what the temperature is at while in windows? <br />
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thanks for all the input guys keep em coming!!
 

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lol well...you tell us.<br />
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If it's over 55C cpu temps, then ya...it's overheating (at full load)<br />
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60C is fine for a GPU.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">lol well...you tell us.<br><br>
If it's over 55C cpu temps, then ya...it's overheating (at full load)<br><br>
60C is fine for a GPU.</div>
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how do i find out the cpu temp??
 

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Speedfan <a href="http://www.almico.com/speedfan431.exe" target="_blank">http://www.almico.com/speedfan431.exe</a>
 

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awesome program.. thanks! one question:<br><br>
im at work right now and ran speedfan to test it out.. for the fans i see Fan1, Fan2, Fan1, Fan 2, Fan 3, and Fan 4. but Fan1 shows 29RPM and the other Fan1 shows 3295. the one im wondering about is the first Fan1 because at 29 revolutions per minute, the fan is spinning one full revolution every two seconds.. what fan is this and is this normal?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">awesome program.. thanks! one question:<br />
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im at work right now and ran speedfan to test it out.. for the fans i see Fan1, Fan2, Fan1, Fan 2, Fan 3, and Fan 4. but Fan1 shows 29RPM and the other Fan1 shows 3295. the one im wondering about is the first Fan1 because at 29 revolutions per minute, the fan is spinning one full revolution every two seconds.. what fan is this and is this normal?</div>

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</div>Some sensors can read whacky, its okay if they do this, its normal. If they do read an absurd number just ignore them. ex: 29rpm or 130C.. <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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I have 4 sticks of ram , and my 3700 runs and overclocks fine , What kind of cooler is on that, And is it seated right ?
 

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Hmm.. In my experience with Speedfan, I've seen it not play nice with some mobos but since it shows one fan at 3295 and another at 29RPM chances are is that its working. I'd recommend for you to actually physically open up the case and take a look at the fans also. See if anything is blocking passage or airflow in general. <br />
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About the bios though, you should be able to hit delete or escape on start-up to bring up your bios menu. Temperature and voltages are usually under "PC Health Status" or something like that(Might refer to your motherboard manual). At idle, as someone has stated before, anything above or at 55C for your CPU is WAYY too hot. It should be lower but I actually doubt that. Your voltages should also be given in this "PC Health Status" Area and they should not be flucating all over the place or either be above or below the Volts stated(2 Percent MAX allowed) So on your ATX 12V line, your voltages can be above or below 12V by .24V but no higher or no lower. If its flucuating though or if any of the voltages are off, its most likely the PSU. Hope this helps and good luck!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Hmm.. In my experience with Speedfan, I've seen it not play nice with some mobos but since it shows one fan at 3295 and another at 29RPM chances are is that its working. I'd recommend for you to actually physically open up the case and take a look at the fans also. See if anything is blocking passage or airflow in general. <br />
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About the bios though, you should be able to hit delete or escape on start-up to bring up your bios menu. Temperature and voltages are usually under "PC Health Status" or something like that(Might refer to your motherboard manual). At idle, as someone has stated before, anything above or at 55C for your CPU is WAYY too hot. It should be lower but I actually doubt that. Your voltages should also be given in this "PC Health Status" Area and they should not be flucating all over the place or either be above or below the Volts stated(2 Percent MAX allowed) So on your ATX 12V line, your voltages can be above or below 12V by .24V but no higher or no lower. If its flucuating though or if any of the voltages are off, its most likely the PSU. Hope this helps and good luck!</div>

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</div>wait, so should i be worried about the 29 RPM reading?? is it possible this is the fan on the processor and that the processor is overheating?<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">I have 4 sticks of ram , and my 3700 runs and overclocks fine , What kind of cooler is on that, And is it seated right ?</div>

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</div>as far as cooling goes my friend has the thermaltake soprano. no other fans or heat sinks were purchased or used for this computer.
 

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For now, I wouldn't really worry about it. What are the CPU temps though at idle?
 
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