[hotwheels1997]

Case: HAF 912 Advanced

For the side fan which doesn't come with the case,i'll use this one: Arctic F12 TC It has automatic regulation ,from 300RPM to 1350RPM,120mm.It's dirt cheap too

Any thoughts?

 

[nickt1862]

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Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

Case: HAF 912 Advanced

For the side fan which doesn't come with the case,i'll use this one: Arctic F12 TC It has automatic regulation ,from 300RPM to 1350RPM,120mm.It's dirt cheap too

Any thoughts?

This is an age old question with cases.

Many say that and I agree that the side panel fan can disrupt the airflow inside the case and actually raise temps, others say otherwise.

So, what you oughta do is experiment and see what works best for you.

Otherwise the front, rear and top fan airflow direction is spot on.

Please let me know how many kilometers per litre you get.

 

[Art Vanelay]

The side fan should be exhausting air, if you have an open fan style graphics card cooler. If it is a blower style, then airflow doesn't really matter.

 

[nickt1862]

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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay

The side fan should be exhausting air, if you have an open fan style graphics card cooler. If it is a blower style, then airflow doesn't really matter.

Yep, another config to experiment with.

Though by the photo they show it as intake as most people would do if they had a side panel fan.

Some people intake air from the top and rear and exhaust it from the front and side.

 

[hotwheels1997]

My card exhaust in the case,so it's not with a blower cooler.I guess then i'll put in as exhaust and then as intake and see which one works the best for me.And if in fact the side fan distrups airflow,i'll find a place for the fan elsewhere,can't really think of a place though...I'm looking at a side panel because my GPU get's hot,65-70C in games which is annoyingly high.
P.S. @ nickt1862 : I contacted Seasonic about the buzzing noise,they said it isn't anything to worry about.I should RMA it only if noise is a problem to me.He said others reported the same and it's not a problem.Guess no RMA for now. - and if ever something happens(pray got it don't) i'll just RMA,5 year warranty YEY

 

[Art Vanelay]

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Originally Posted by nickt1862

Some people intake air from the top and rear and exhaust it from the front and side.

Yeah, that's what I do, but I have a strangely configured computer that pretty much required that airflow configuration.

 

[hotwheels1997]

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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay

Yeah, that's what I do, but I have a strangely configured computer that pretty much required that airflow configuration.

This method,i started thinking about it and then came to conclusion it won't work in my case.
Reasons:
I keep my case beneath my desk and in the corner of the room(the pc rear is there) is always hotter and really dusty.If i intake from there my PC would get full of dust.I'll need to clean it every weekend and i usually do it few times a year.My 212 Plus is positioned like that: Click .It's exhausting from the back of it,directly in the rear fan.

 

[Jolly Roger]

Give this thread a read. Really good info. LINK and HERE too.

 

[hotwheels1997]

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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

Give this thread a read. Really good info. LINK and HERE too.

I've read it now.What i first noticed is that i need to put my top 200mm as intake,not exhaust? Lol i didn't expect that but i'll do it.Can someone confirm top intake instead of exhaust actually helps?
Read both articles and since my case has rear fan grill,i'll go like that:

Approval?

 

[F1ynn]

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Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

I've read it now.What i first noticed is that i need to put my top 200mm as intake,not exhaust? Lol i didn't expect that but i'll do it.Can someone confirm top intake instead of exhaust actually helps?
Read both articles and since my case has rear fan grill,i'll go like that:

Approval?

keep the 200mm fan as exhaust, as hot air rises that in general will help. Can you fit a fan at the bottom by your psu?

 

[hotwheels1997]

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Originally Posted by F1ynn

keep the 200mm fan as exhaust, as hot air rises that in general will help. Can you fit a fan at the bottom by your psu?

I was going to,but check this out: Link
He gets drop in temperatures of using top 200mm fan as a intake fan because: Yes,hot air rises,but think about that: air goes whenever you push it

And no,i don't think i can but we'll see tomorrow/the day after tomorrow when my case arrives.

 

[splinterize]

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Originally Posted by nickt1862

Please let me know how many kilometers per litre you get.

LOL.

 

[Jolly Roger]

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Originally Posted by F1ynn

keep the 200mm fan as exhaust, as hot air rises that in general will help. Can you fit a fan at the bottom by your psu?

This isn't air cooler logic anymore. A "cool-your-system-from-the-bottom-up" theory is dated. Simply, "Air goes where you push it!" I have no rear vent, no rear fan, and only one top intake fan. And I have stellar temps. The top intake feeds your cpu heatsink and RAM nice cool air. (This of course only works when you intake is further forward than your heatsink, hence why I suggested that article, it does a stellar job explaining how it all works.) Ehume, the member who wrote those threads has tested this and has created a system that was cooled entirely with the CPU fans. It wasn't a permanent solution, but an experiment. Just remember. Air goes where you push it. Hot air only consistently rises in a static environment.

 

[hotwheels1997]

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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

This isn't air cooler logic anymore. A "cool-your-system-from-the-bottom-up" theory is dated. Simply, "Air goes where you push it!" I have no rear vent, no rear fan, and only one top intake fan. And I have stellar temps. The top intake feeds your cpu heatsink and RAM nice cool air. (This of course only works when you intake is further forward than your heatsink, hence why I suggested that article, it does a stellar job explaining how it all works.) Ehume, the member who wrote those threads has tested this and has created a system that was cooled entirely with the CPU fans. It wasn't a permanent solution, but an experiment. Just remember. Air goes where you push it. Hot air only consistently rises in a static environment.

Well the HAF 912 Adv. would have one top 200mm ,would it work for intake too?
Link Here you can see how the 200mm fan is positioned.Will it still work?

 

[Jolly Roger]

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Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

Well the HAF 912 Adv. would have one top 200mm ,would it work for intake too?
Link Here you can see how the 200mm fan is positioned.Will it still work?

A HAF owner will have to back me up on this, but since the case supports two exterior 120mm fans, I would expect that you would be able to remove the 200mm fan and install a 120mm on the top front. This is how my case (CM storm trooper) came, with a 200 up top. I removed it. I installed a 140mm up front, and plugged up the rear top hole. Works awesomely. And since I have a fan controller for the top fan, whenever I OC I crank up that intake fan and it feeds my CPU cooler all the cool air it could ever want, all at the same time cooling the ram and sending cool air to the gpu, which taps out at 62C.

 

[nickt1862]

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Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

This isn't air cooler logic anymore. A "cool-your-system-from-the-bottom-up" theory is dated. Simply, "Air goes where you push it!" I have no rear vent, no rear fan, and only one top intake fan. And I have stellar temps. The top intake feeds your cpu heatsink and RAM nice cool air. (This of course only works when you intake is further forward than your heatsink, hence why I suggested that article, it does a stellar job explaining how it all works.) Ehume, the member who wrote those threads has tested this and has created a system that was cooled entirely with the CPU fans. It wasn't a permanent solution, but an experiment. Just remember. Air goes where you push it. Hot air only consistently rises in a static environment.

Well the HAF 912 Adv. would have one top 200mm ,would it work for intake too?
Link Here you can see how the 200mm fan is positioned.Will it still work?

I got a great airflow solution

I actually own one to clean out my desktop computers but it's vital to hold the fan blades from spinning otherwise damage to those fans will result from spinning way too fast.

 

[nickt1862]

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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

Well the HAF 912 Adv. would have one top 200mm ,would it work for intake too?
Link Here you can see how the 200mm fan is positioned.Will it still work?

A HAF owner will have to back me up on this, but since the case supports two exterior 120mm fans, I would expect that you would be able to remove the 200mm fan and install a 120mm on the top front. This is how my case (CM storm trooper) came, with a 200 up top. I removed it. I installed a 140mm up front, and plugged up the rear top hole. Works awesomely. And since I have a fan controller for the top fan, whenever I OC I crank up that intake fan and it feeds my CPU cooler all the cool air it could ever want, all at the same time cooling the ram and sending cool air to the gpu, which taps out at 62C.

One can install one or two 120mm in the inside top of the chassis as well as behind the front panel - yes I own a HAF 912 basic.

 

[hotwheels1997]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

A HAF owner will have to back me up on this, but since the case supports two exterior 120mm fans, I would expect that you would be able to remove the 200mm fan and install a 120mm on the top front. This is how my case (CM storm trooper) came, with a 200 up top. I removed it. I installed a 140mm up front, and plugged up the rear top hole. Works awesomely. And since I have a fan controller for the top fan, whenever I OC I crank up that intake fan and it feeds my CPU cooler all the cool air it could ever want, all at the same time cooling the ram and sending cool air to the gpu, which taps out at 62C.

Yes it does supports 2x120mm but i gave extra money for this 200mm for the top and i don't have any other place to put it in.I don't feel like buying new fan 120mm and just leaving my 200mm as a leftover.If i use the 200mm as a intake on the top,it'll work i guess,but just not that good?Oh and the cooler on the picture is bigger than mine,the hyper212 plus will be smaller so bigger portion of the 200mm fan would be infront of the cooler.Is it worth even trying intake with the 200mm top?
@nickt1862: dat electric duster...want one!!!

What do you use as airflow in your case? Top 200mm as intake or exhaust or one 120mm as intake ?

 

[Jolly Roger]

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Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

Yes it does supports 2x120mm but i gave extra money for this 200mm for the top and i don't have any other place to put it in.I don't feel like buying new fan 120mm and just leaving my 200mm as a leftover.If i use the 200mm as a intake on the top,it'll work i guess,but just not that good?Oh and the cooler on the picture is bigger than mine,the hyper212 plus will be smaller so bigger portion of the 200mm fan would be infront of the cooler.Is it worth even trying intake with the 200mm top?
@nickt1862: dat electric duster...want one!!!

What do you use as airflow in your case? Top 200mm as intake or exhaust or one 120mm as intake ?

It should still basically work with your 200mm fan.

 

[nickt1862]

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Originally Posted by hotwheels1997

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

A HAF owner will have to back me up on this, but since the case supports two exterior 120mm fans, I would expect that you would be able to remove the 200mm fan and install a 120mm on the top front. This is how my case (CM storm trooper) came, with a 200 up top. I removed it. I installed a 140mm up front, and plugged up the rear top hole. Works awesomely. And since I have a fan controller for the top fan, whenever I OC I crank up that intake fan and it feeds my CPU cooler all the cool air it could ever want, all at the same time cooling the ram and sending cool air to the gpu, which taps out at 62C.

Yes it does supports 2x120mm but i gave extra money for this 200mm for the top and i don't have any other place to put it in.I don't feel like buying new fan 120mm and just leaving my 200mm as a leftover.If i use the 200mm as a intake on the top,it'll work i guess,but just not that good?Oh and the cooler on the picture is bigger than mine,the hyper212 plus will be smaller so bigger portion of the 200mm fan would be infront of the cooler.Is it worth even trying intake with the 200mm top?
@nickt1862: dat electric duster...want one!!!

What do you use as airflow in your case? Top 200mm as intake or exhaust or one 120mm as intake ?

Right now I have 200mm on top as exhaust, front 200mm as intake and rear 120mm as exhaust with no problems.

Here's an "antique photo" (that whole system is no longer in there but you can see that top fan set as exhaust):



And another front view:



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