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Is watercooling an i7 that much better?

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I see lots of people here that are using a lot lower vcore than I am to hit 4ghz but they are on water, does water cooling really make that much difference? Does it really make you have to use that much less volts to get stable just because of the lower temps?

Lastly, I just moved my computer into a dedicated room and my wife cant gripe now because of the noise, what would be the best of the best setup for my sig rig? i7 "DO stepping" and a 4870x2 on a asus p6t mobo?
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water cooling does not dictate the Vcore that will need to be applied in order to sustain an overclock, that factor is dictated by the inherent proprties of the CPU and its revision.

Water cooling will assist in disipating heat produced by higher Vcores.
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So it wouldn't let me hit a higher clock speed at a lower vcore, or help anyways??
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So it wouldn't let me hit a higher clock speed at a lower vcore, or help anyways??
No, the reason you see people on water running lower vCore's has nothing to do with the water cooling itself. It's because people on water are more likely to hunt down a good overclocking chip. At least thats why I think there is a correlation. I have noticed that as well.
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i have the i7 do not get watercooling it not worth it get the best air cooler out you well reach the limit of the cpu with any good air cooler
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i have the i7 do not get watercooling it not worth it get the best air cooler out you well reach the limit of the cpu with any good air cooler
you must live in the arctic circle
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i have the i7 do not get watercooling it not worth it get the best air cooler out you well reach the limit of the cpu with any good air cooler
Then why do people use LN2 or dice?
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So it wouldn't let me hit a higher clock speed at a lower vcore, or help anyways??
Liquid cooling will assist in attaining a lower idle temp and a lower Delta. That in turn may yield the user a higher overlock due to lower temperature thresholds.
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Also, you extend the life of the CPU as it runs at cooler temperatures, reducing wear on the electronics. How long it may be extended, though, is unknown but I feel safer knowing that I'm not going to be hitting 80-90c with my overclock.
Lower temps. make the CPU last much longer than normal and make the chip achieve higher clock speeds. I wonder if the i7 can OC to 6GHz and beyond. BTW, can anyone recommend me a list of WC parts that will cool my i7, NB, SB, and MOSFETs from an Asus P6T6 WS Revolution mobo? A detailed list and reasons for the parts will be nice.
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Then why do people use LN2 or dice?
Ln2 and/or DICE is used purely for benchmarking. This type of cooling is utilized mainly on a temporary basis just to run tests on it and see who can hit the highest mark. Watercooling and phase change cooling are permanent solutions to keep your chip at a certain clock for 24/7 usage. Sometimes people experiment with high clocks on phase change systems and water as well, but nothing compared to ln2/dice testing.
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Anyone reccommend me a KILLER water cooling system for this thing?
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Anyone reccommend me a KILLER water cooling system for this thing?
Budget?
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Seems that topic creator wants to cool his CPU and 4870x2. I wonder how much would that cost.
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Originally Posted by Syrillian View Post
Hi.


water cooling does not dictate the Vcore that will need to be applied in order to sustain an overclock, that factor is dictated by the inherent proprties of the CPU and its revision.

Water cooling will assist in disipating heat produced by higher Vcores.
So basically, as long as my temps are in check with my true and 38mm ultra kaze, I really won't see any marginal benifits with water? My temps are right arould 60*c at 4.0ghz 1.29v on prime even after 8hrs of it the highest my temps ever got was 64* and that was only on one core, the rest of them were either 59 or 61, all of this at an ambient of 72*F

ALSO, if I end up going water, I have a $550 budget.
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i7 waterblock comparison
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...blocks-i7.html
The Heatkiller will be the one I will end up with I believe. It looks like it clobbers everything else, and if I am going to do it, I might as well shoot for the best the first time without regrets!
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So basically, as long as my temps are in check with my true and 38mm ultra kaze, I really won't see any marginal benifits with water? My temps are right arould 60*c at 4.0ghz 1.29v on prime even after 8hrs of it the highest my temps ever got was 64* and that was only on one core, the rest of them were either 59 or 61, all of this at an ambient of 72*F

ALSO, if I end up going water, I have a $550 budget.
Going water, if you do it right, might get you 3 or 4°C. It allows you to run a higher vcore and keep lower temperatures. You might be able to get 4.5GHz stable on water. It's fun and it's cool, but probably not worth it.
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So basically, as long as my temps are in check with my true and 38mm ultra kaze, I really won't see any marginal benifits with water? My temps are right arould 60*c at 4.0ghz 1.29v on prime even after 8hrs of it the highest my temps ever got was 64* and that was only on one core, the rest of them were either 59 or 61, all of this at an ambient of 72*F

ALSO, if I end up going water, I have a $550 budget.
You'll be able to hit a higher speed on water, but you will need to pump more voltage through your chip. If you are willing to a take a loss reselling some chips you can buy a few and test their OC's and keep the best one. You could also consider selling your current chip and paying a premium for a used chip that OC's well.

Oh yea, $550 is plenty for a good WC setup. You are probably going to need a couple radiators to cool a heavily OC'd i7 and a 4870x2 though. The i7 alone usually needs its own 3x120mm radiator to hit 4.2GHz+ at good temps.
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Going water, if you do it right, might get you 3 or 4°C. It allows you to run a higher vcore and keep lower temperatures. You might be able to get 4.5GHz stable on water. It's fun and it's cool, but probably not worth it.
+1 Except it will probably get you more than 3 or 4C. It still isn't really "worth it" unless you are shooting for the coolness factor you get with WC.
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