Yea they seem average. A lot of people keep saying they get like 55 degrees load with my chip (965be) with an h50, but mine were considerably higher because Im using 8gb of ram and need to jack the volts up a little bit to stable. i had good results switching my two corsair fans in push pull with a yate loon 2200 rpm high speed fan, and even better results with 2 of them, all be it a little louder, but not too bad. My load temps dropped around 4 or 5 degrees with the two fans on. theyre the best ones Ive used so far. Tried a shroud, but in my oppinion shrouds are useless, at least with those fans, and they genereate a lot of static pressure at 88cfm/2200rpm.