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hey, ive beena lurker for a while and i have got some great info here. thanks guys. never really had to post till now but i think i will more often.<br />
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anyway, i just installed an ati radeo x850 pro agp card on an abit nf7-s mobo. im trying to get a little life out of this board still.<br />
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i installed the latest catalyst drivers and latest directx.<br />
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i was playing scarface fine on my old radeon 8500 but it was slow so i had to upgrade.<br />
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after about 30 seconds or so of play on the new card the game freezes and turns to a black screen.<br />
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i get the ati vpu recovery message that tells me it changed my settings and i need to restart. i tried restarting then playing again but i got the same problem. this time i hit cancel instead of restarting and i get a directx error. the error reads:<br />
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DirextX Error<br />
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D3DERR_INVALIDCALL<br />
Coder: 2156, dacility: 2166, severity: 1<br />
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i just reinstalled directx and i am about to try omega drivers.<br />
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anyone know whats going on here??? this is frustrating me.<br />
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THANKS IN ADVANCE TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.<img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Did you uninstall drivers, then run drivercleaner pro, and re-install them?<br />
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Oh, and you did connect the power connector on the X850?
 

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ill try using driver cleaner.<br />
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i connected the power cable, i didnt think the card would work or the fan would be spinning if i didnt, would it? ill check the connection anyway to make sure.
 

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I have the X850, sorta Mines a X850 XT Platinum Edition. <br />
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If you've done everything correctly all I can think to do is reinstall the drivers.
 

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i just unistalled then ran driver cleaner and reinstalled and scarface shut down even faster this time. im going to give bf2 a shot and see if i can get that to run. thanks for the help guys
 

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If BF2 doesn't run. Go into My Documents\\Battlefield 2\\Profiles, Delete your profiles. Then run BF2.
 

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bf2 shut down right after the map loaded.<br />
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each time a game shuts down my screen res gets reset to 1024x768 and the graphics slow down dramitcally just browsing windows. after i restart things go back to normal. im not sure what else to try. do you think uninstaling and reinstalling the game will make a difference.<br />
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im going to uninstall everything, chipset drivers, graphics driver, directx, games and try to get this going. this is really pissing me off. could there be a problem with the card or is this def my environment?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">bf2 shut down right after the map loaded.<br><br>
each time a game shuts down my screen res gets reset to 1024x768 and the graphics slow down dramitcally just browsing windows. after i restart things go back to normal. im not sure what else to try. do you think uninstaling and reinstalling the game will make a difference.<br><br>
im going to uninstall everything, chipset drivers, graphics driver, directx, games and try to get this going.</div>
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Or you could reformat & install.
 

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see attached image...<br><br>
could it be my old psu?<br><br>
i have 2 wd250 sata150 drives and a wd80 ide attached. nec dvd/r. 6 fans. themaltake volcano 12 hsf. am i drawing too much power?<br><br>
is there a way i can check if the card has a power failure?<br><br>
looking at mobo monitor<br>
+12 bounces from 11.92v - 11.98v<br>
-12 stays steady at -12.03v<br><br><br>
reformatting will be my next move unless the unistall works or if its the psu.<br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/5/55/557d2c93_vbattach33051.jpeg"><img alt="LL" src="http://cdn.overclock.net/5/55/525x525px-LL-557d2c93_vbattach33051.jpeg" style="width:525px;height:394px;"></a>
 

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could it be my old psu?<br><br>
looking at mobo monitor<br>
+12 bounces from 11.92v - 11.98v<br>
-12 stays steady at -12.03v<br><br><br>
reformatting will be my next move unless the unistall works or if its the psu.</div>
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It's your PSU. Get a new one.
 

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Ok, think we foiund the culprit. 12A on the 12V rail is by far NOT enough for that card. When you go into 3D mode, the card draws too much current, resulting in failure.<br><br>
You'll need a new PSU, with at least 25A on the 12V rail(s).<br><br>
I like this one for you:<br><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104954" target="_blank">FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.0, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W</a> $48.99 + $7.64 shipping
 

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**** YES! Get rid of that PSU before it blows somethign up on you...lol.<br><br>
12A on the 12v rail? OMG! Thta's one of the lowest rated PSUs I've ever heard of. Plus it's not even a quality unit...it's 12A on a junky supply...AKA maybe 8 or 10 amps...lol.<br><br>
That thing is the reason.
 

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thanks, i had a feeling that might have been the problem.<br><br>
atitool basically breaks when scanning for artifacts once the temp gets close to 80. i didnt let it run that long when i first installed the card.<br><br>
thats what i get for staying out of the pc gaming/graphics loop for a few years.<br><br>
thanks for the help everyone
 

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if you cant buy a new PSU the coming days and still want to game you can also disconnect an HD and some fans. That way your card gets enough juice even tough your PSU isnt good enough. <br />
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Just wanted to let you know, ive survived for a month that way <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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That's a bit overkill for his rig right now (and I don't see him upgrading any time soon, so by the time he does, he'll need more power than 35A-40A).<br><br>
I think a good 400W-450W unit with at least 25A will do fine. The FSP 450W unit is high quality and plenty powerful for your rig.
 

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I have a 450watt Asus A-45GA with 2 V12 rails of 14A each. Its was enough for my old P4 2,4Ghz setup and still is enough for my Core 2 Duo setup I have running now.<br><br>
Like Chozart said: A 450watt PSU with around 25A is fine indeed.
 
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