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Hi everyone, newbie overclocker and water cooler here, but I'd like to get into water cooling and some overclocking. Currently, I have a desktop case, the Silverstone LC17, it's pretty nice, but I've been wanting a tower.

My question is, would a Lian Li PC-767 be a good tower case for water cooling? I'd like to integrate everything into the case, nothing sticking out. It has alot of 5.25" bays, and I've seen resevoirs that could fit in those bays, but I was wondering what you all think.

If there's a better case that would fit a water cooling setup inside of it, please tell me! Thanks!

Edit: I'd like to build a custom water cooling setup with various parts online, I'd also like to cool both my CPU and graphics card, possibly chipset as well.
 

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Hey Eidi,

<donning asbestos suit>

I can't really tell much about your case from the website--the internal view comes and goes.

I suggest you ponder your preferences--silence versus cooling performance, what kind of componenets you prefer, etc.

I value silence, portability (i.e. all internal cooling), and better-than-air-but-not-ultimate performance. So I went with a Antec P180 case, which is highly regarded for silence, but not particularly roomy--it appears roughly the same size as the case you're considering.

For convenience, I went with a kit that reviews have cited for silence and good performance--the BigWater SE. It has skinny tubes, and won't give you alpha-geek bragging rights, but so far it is fitting nicely inside my case.

But if you want a hot-rod high-flow system, I think you'd want a bigger case than the P180 or the one you're considering, in order to fit everything inside without a struggle--I'm sure folks here can recommend something.

I hope this helps.


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I don't think I'd need ultimate performance, I just really want silence. Overclocking a bit would be a nice bonus too though. I also want portability like you. I think it also looks much neater if there aren't a bunch of tubes coming out of the case, more professional.

The layout of the P180 is very nice, I like how there's room underneith the motherboard where you could put a pump and maybe a resevoir. That's one thing I'm a little worried about with the Lian Li. However, the outside of the P180 doesn't appeal to me, what with all the black and silver mixed together. That's the thing I love about the Lian Li, it makes me think of yin and yang.

I may switch to another case with the layout of the P180 though, it just seems safer.

Thanks for your input.

Also, does anyone know of another case with the internal layout like the P180? PSU and a bunch of room at the bottom for a pump, resevoir, etc. Or is that really a big deal? Sorry, I'm pretty new to all this, so I don't know if the Lian Li would safely house all that at the top or not...
 

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THe air flow in that case is very wierd, it isn't a very good idea to have your intake fans and your exaust fans right next to each other..
I highly recommend the Antec P180, If you don't like the color, break down the case and paint it! (Krylon spray paint is good) Spray it any color you like..and then put the case back together. For watercooling the bigwater is really silent and does the job, but if your serious, you should get this. It comes with 1/2in tubing and has great waterflow. You can allways upgrade the components later since it's 1/2in tubing. The price is really good, I would have got this if it was out at the time the bigwater release.
 

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Would that air flow be bad for a water cooled system? I was thinking about putting a radiator near the back, bottom, where that 120mm fan is already. Or possibly in the 5.25" bays near the front... Scratch that, after seeing how big radiators are, how could they even fit in a case?

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=76&page=1

That's nearly as tall as the case is... Is there a better case that could more easily fit a good radiator?

I attached a picture of what I think might be a good setup for the LC-767.

Do you think that a layout in the P180 will be better? I might go that soley because of that... It does look safer, at least.

Most importantly, I want a self contained system, if the P180 could do that and the PC-767 can't, I'll go for the P180.
 

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honestly, youre going to want the radiator outside of the case, because the water is cooled by the rad and fans will be on the rad 2x120mm or 2x80mm, and it needs the air around it to draw the heat from the water out, so the best place for a rad is to mount it either behind, on top, or underneath the case.
 

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Hmm... Beneath the case, you say? Maybe I could mod the LC-767 a bit and add on things to the bottom and mount a radiator there... Put 1 120mm fan on both ends, on intake, one outtake... Do you think that would work? I could cut holes into the bottom of the case and put the tubes in through there... I just want it to look really nice and elegent when I'm done.
 

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Hey Eidi,

The P180 is available in all black from EndPCNoise.com, in case you like that better. If you're interested, I suggest you read it's reviews on SilentPCReview.com . The article describes many other nice features, including non-resonant panels and noise-reducing drive mounts.

Oh, and if you find a posting helpful, please click the "rep+" button on the bottom left--it helps newbies earn the right to private message.


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Lian Li Rocks--go for it--of course you can fit the rad in the case--I have a much smaller case and everything is internal--it requires some ingenuity and skill on your part to pull it off--but you wouldn't be thinking about WC if you were afraid of a challenge. Absolute silence is also possible on air--yes that's right--passive cooling does not lend itself to certain processors/mobos and is not ideal for overclocking, but even without going total passive on the HS, the new Zalman "bottlebrush" heat pipe is awesome and would allow the option of dead silent stock running or somewhat louder OCing--it's the next best thing to Watercooling.

that said the P180 by Antec is a fabulous case and specifically designed to eliminate interior noises--something the all aluminum LIan Li can only be modified to do--stock I find the Lian Li case a real resonator of acoustic energy (it's noisy)--but with sound dampening and other tweaks I have reduced most of the noise--the pump is a killer--even mounted on sound absorbing material and isolated from the case--it hums. Definitely different than the high-pitched cavitation of fan blades--but still noise.

To gain real silence perhaps the P 180 with the new Zalman HS and special attention to isolating noise (a quiet PSU is key) and choosing quiet , cool running components.
 

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Hmm... That black P180 looks very nice... Everything I didn't like about it before seems to disappear. I may get that one... However, I think the PC-767 still looks better, so I'm not sure which I'd rather go with... Tough choice now. Lian Li has looks, but the P180 is betterly made... Not sure now...

I don't need total silence from my computer, but it would be nice. I just want it to be quieter, as right now I have a http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc17.htm that has 2 80mm fans mounted on the back that are about 21 dBa (I think they're louder... They sure seem loud), a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118114 that I don't think is as loud as one of the 80mm fans, but it adds up. And I also have a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130215 which adds as well.

Even going down to a pump and 2 120mm fans would be a big improvement I think. It's pretty loud at the moment.

@CyberDruid: How are your temps with an internal radiator? Did you have to do any kind of case modding that makes your case look much different, like... Extra fans for the radiator that are in plain sight?

Thanks for the help guys, real tough decision between them though... I really really like the look of the PC-767, but the P180 is better built, and looks much better in pure black than a mixture of metal and black.
 
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