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I'm completely new to not all in one liquid cooling, and this will be my first system, so I'm looking for something on the simple/almost automated front. Ive been looking at the Koolance RP-1250, due to the fact that it seems like I can customize the Fan ramp and pump speed with the controller, and also see the specific flow rate, all in one 5.25" bay. The CTR-CD1224 is essentially the controller, minus the pump/res......

In other words, does it make sense to save the $130 to purchase another(maybe better, as I don't know the market?) pump and reservoir by buying just the controller, or should I just get the complete pump/res with controller all in one?

The system will cool my CPU and maybe RAM later, as I already have EVGA 980 Ti Hybrid's, so there's no third party liquid cooling for them. I'm also looking to put 2 thin 480 rads on this, but I'm not sure if that is required to determine if I need a better pump.

Link for RP-1250: http://koolance.com/rp-1250-reservoir-and-pump
Link for CTR-CD1224 controller: http://koolance.com/ctr-cd1224-pump-and-fan-controller-with-display

Not to mention, Do people personally like Koolance for liquid cooling products?

Thanks in advance
Alex
 

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Hi guys

I'm completely new to not all in one liquid cooling, and this will be my first system, so I'm looking for something on the simple/almost automated front. Ive been looking at the Koolance RP-1250, due to the fact that it seems like I can customize the Fan ramp and pump speed with the controller, and also see the specific flow rate, all in one 5.25" bay. The CTR-CD1224 is essentially the controller, minus the pump/res......

In other words, does it make sense to save the $130 to purchase another(maybe better, as I don't know the market?) pump and reservoir by buying just the controller, or should I just get the complete pump/res with controller all in one?

The system will cool my CPU and maybe RAM later, as I already have EVGA 980 Ti Hybrid's, so there's no third party liquid cooling for them. I'm also looking to put 2 thin 480 rads on this, but I'm not sure if that is required to determine if I need a better pump.

Link for RP-1250: http://koolance.com/rp-1250-reservoir-and-pump
Link for CTR-CD1224 controller: http://koolance.com/ctr-cd1224-pump-and-fan-controller-with-display

Not to mention, Do people personally like Koolance for liquid cooling products?

Thanks in advance
Alex
The Koolance bay res systems use the best pumps available (that fit single bay), the Laing DDC. It is well enough for most realistic loops.
To use the pump control feature of the CTR controller you would really need to use the same basic voltage controlled DDC as the RP model.

Now, having said that, of the two I would go with the CTR. It will allow you to use a separate pump and res that will then be much easier to isolate from the case so that normal pump vibration doesn't make a racket in the case. Bay res pumps are always more difficult to make quiet. A separate pump/res is also more attractive and easier to use.

Having said that ... LOL, I would recommend an alternative if you are open to it and have the space in the build for it. An Aquacomputer Aquaero and separate pump, res, flow meter units.
For about the same money you can get a more capable and expandable system. It is just more complicated and less integrated than the RP1250.

Aquaero 5 or 6
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aquaero-5-lt-usb-fan-controller.html
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-passive-cooler-for-aquaero-5-new-version-20mm-high.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aquaero-6-pro-usb-fan-controller-grafik-lcd.html

Flow meter
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-flow-sensor-high-flow-g1-4-for-aquaero-aquastream-xt-ultra-and-poweradjust.html

Pump
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-d5-pump-mechanics-with-usb-and-aquabus-interface.html

res/pump top
http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-xres-100-revo-d5-reservoir-acetal.html

Koolance do make some really great stuff. I have owned 2 of their RP452 dual d5 units and they were fantastic. Really solid and well made.
Their customer service or support leaves something to be desired compared to other brands though. Just the fact they won't honour the warranty on anything unless you use their secret sauce coolant is bad enough.
They seem to have mostly cut back on enthusiast water cooling and focus more on industrial server farm cooling. A lot of their stuff is quite old compared to the competition.

EK have been promising a new water cooling pump/fan controller that looked to have potential but I haven't got any info on it.
 

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Thanks for the Reply,

Now, if I were to go with the Aquacomputer, Even though it would probably break the bank..... I think I would want to do it right with an aquacontroller res like the Aqualis XT 450: http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aqualis-xt-450ml-with-nano-coating-fill-level-sensor-and-led-holder-g1-4.html ....... but would you know of any way to get this connected to the D5 you recommended? does the Aquaero control the pump flow?

Also, do you know of any guides I would be able to find online to help out with learning about the Aquacomputer?

Thanks again
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For US$299, I would rather pay a bit more for an Aquaero with separate pump and reservoir.

With an Aquaero 5, you can control 4 fans, monitor 8 temps, and flow meter aside from many other advanced features

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Thanks for the Reply,

Now, if I were to go with the Aquacomputer, Even though it would probably break the bank..... I think I would want to do it right with an aquacontroller res like the Aqualis XT 450: http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aqualis-xt-450ml-with-nano-coating-fill-level-sensor-and-led-holder-g1-4.html ....... but would you know of any way to get this connected to the D5 you recommended? does the Aquaero control the pump flow?

Also, do you know of any guides I would be able to find online to help out with learning about the Aquacomputer?

Thanks again
Alex
The Aquacomputer res don't do anything beside cost too much and take up a heap of room. They sell pump and res combo units similar to the EK one I linked except way more expensive, less effective, and a less than ideal design.

These are the newer small one unit
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aqualis-d5-150-ml-with-nano-coating-g1-4.html

or the original type where you buy the d5 top
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-pump-adaptor-for-d5-pumps-for-aqualis-with-fill-level-measurement-g1-4.html

and the special version of the res mounts directly to it.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aqualis-base-for-pump-adapter-450ml-w-water-column-effect.html

Personally I'm not a fan of them at all. They work in a fundamentally different, less ideal way than the EK. They are prone to leaking unless perfectly maintained.

Yes the Aquaero directly controls the USB pump. Its just a digitally controlled version of the most popular water cooling pump, the D5 Vario, with its built in speed control.

Google "Nams Aquaero guide"
 

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You dont need to get the Aquaero to control your pumps if budget is an issue.

I just fried both my Aquaero 5's over the weekend so I'm currently running all my pumps off just my poweradjusts and controlled via aquasuite through the poweradjust USB interface until I replace the Aquaeros again /sigh

Each poweradjust runs one pump with passive cooling no problem, 2 PMP500s and 2 D5s. For someone looking to control just one pump, and save some money yet still have a great interface and options like fan curves, the poweradjusts for $40 a piece are great options without getting too tied up in the aquaero ecosystem or breaking the bank.



http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-poweradjust-3-usb-standard-series.html
 

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This poweradjust is very intriguing..... Just two questions, How would I program and monitor it, and how many temperature sensors ports are there on it....

Even though this method is very interesting to me, I still have to admit that I'm still considering the koolance..... But we'll see when budget comes into account.....

By the way, do you know of anyone who has made a guide or videos for setting up these poweradjusts?

Thanks
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Edit: just read to find there's one temperature port, which should work... If I'm wrong please correct me
 

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This poweradjust is very intriguing..... Just two questions, How would I program and monitor it, and how many temperature sensors ports are there on it....

Even though this method is very interesting to me, I still have to admit that I'm still considering the koolance..... But we'll see when budget comes into account.....

By the way, do you know of anyone who has made a guide or videos for setting up these poweradjusts?

Thanks
Alex

Edit: just read to find there's one temperature port, which should work... If I'm wrong please correct me
Here are the configuration options for a poweradjust 3 standard/regular version, all 3 pages in aquasuite



Honestly not bad for 40 bucks
 

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You dont need to get the Aquaero to control your pumps if budget is an issue.

I just fried both my Aquaero 5's over the weekend so I'm currently running all my pumps off just my poweradjusts and controlled via aquasuite through the poweradjust USB interface until I replace the Aquaeros again
I'm curious, what happened and how?
 

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I'm curious, what happened and how?
Not actually sure, I flashed an Aquaero 5 LT to slave mode then hooked it up via aquabus high port to the AQ5 pro, turned computer on, and then a tiny bit of smoke cmae out of the AQ5 LT, the primary unit with the screen no longer worked, tried swapping screens, tried hard reset, have to do RMA now I think.

NOt sure what went wrong, but expensive mistake - I hate replacing my aquacomputer stuff, its all really expensive - its fantastic when it works, but you better be careful when hooking stuff up or configuring it, if you have bad luck as i do then you better believe somethings gonna be going wrong when u least expect it
 

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You dont need to get the Aquaero to control your pumps if budget is an issue.

I just fried both my Aquaero 5's over the weekend so I'm currently running all my pumps off just my poweradjusts and controlled via aquasuite through the poweradjust USB interface until I replace the Aquaeros again /sigh

Each poweradjust runs one pump with passive cooling no problem, 2 PMP500s and 2 D5s. For someone looking to control just one pump, and save some money yet still have a great interface and options like fan curves, the poweradjusts for $40 a piece are great options without getting too tied up in the aquaero ecosystem or breaking the bank.



http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-poweradjust-3-usb-standard-series.html
May I ask what pumps youre specifically using. I cant tell if what pump I'm looking at is controllable with the poweradjust.
 

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A "plain" DDC or D5 , NOT the PWM versions, since the PowerAdjust.. adjusts the voltage ... not something you wanna do on a (more expensive) PWM pump.
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A bit like an ordinary fan controller, except there are no knobs to turn, its done in the aquasuite software

Alternatives to it are: MCubed T-Balancer (if you can find it) and Alphacools HeatMaster . Just like the Aquareo 5 LT, PowerAdjust ... you set up the curves in software, load it into the controller and then forget about it
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May I ask what pumps youre specifically using. I cant tell if what pump I'm looking at is controllable with the poweradjust.
Im using Koolance PMP500s and MCP655-bs fom swiftech. The pmp500 is widely regarded as the most powerful cpu cooling pump ever & has a hefty 3+ amp power draw, the poweradjusts handle them just fine with no heatsinks and no heating issues
 
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