Mac vs PC persuassive speech, help?

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Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · Nov 23, 2009

I'm doing a persuasive speech for a class, Mac vs PC (in favor of PC).
I do not feel strongly about the topic. So I won't be offended by any logical and reasonable arguments and stuff like that for either side.

Would some people here like to give me opinions, facts, and other information on this topic so I could improve my speech. This will also help me during the Q&A. Thanks in advance, I'll keep refreshing for a few hours in hope that I get some responses

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D3TH.GRUNT

· #2 · Nov 23, 2009

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in b4 the macs suck rants

to actually help you though, i would say the difference comes down to the user/buyers personal impression. If the buyer tends to like aesthetically pleasing, simple designed, and not a fan of windows then i would assume that buyer would more likely want to buy a mac. If the buyer wants to play games, possibly have fun building his own pc, overclock for better performance, and places aesthetics under performance then the buyer seems more likely to either buy or build his own pc. Hope my info helps you out

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Speedma11229

· #3 · Nov 23, 2009

1. Cheaper and larger variety of games on pc
2. build a pc, unlike a mac, for cheaper
3. the only reason pc has problems because of multiple hardware vendors unlike apple with only itself, and if it expands its bound to have same problems
4. more shareware and freeware for pc.

Phaedrus2129

· #4 · Nov 23, 2009

PC isn't an operating system...

Regardless, an OS is a tool. If it does what you want it to, it's good. End.

Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 23, 2009

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in b4 the macs suck rants

to actually help you though, i would say the difference comes down to the user/buyers personal impression. If the buyer tends to like aesthetically pleasing, simple designed, and not a fan of windows then i would assume that buyer would more likely want to buy a mac. If the buyer wants to play games, possibly have fun building his own pc, overclock for better performance, and places aesthetics under performance then the buyer seems more likely to either buy or build his own pc. Hope my info helps you out

That does help a little bit. Although when I make the speech I am making it towards people who will buy prebuilt computers and laptops. Building your own PC won't play a part in my speech.

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JKBenchmarks

· #6 · Nov 23, 2009

It's not illegal to build your own PC as opposed to a Mac.

Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 23, 2009

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1. Cheaper and larger variety of games on pc
2. build a pc, unlike a mac, for cheaper
3. the only reason pc has problems because of multiple hardware vendors unlike apple with only itself, and if it expands its bound to have same problems
4. more shareware and freeware for pc.

I am hesitant to use games in my speech, maybe later on into it.

ty, shareware and freeware is a good one.

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PC isn't an operating system...

Regardless, an OS is a tool. If it does what you want it to, it's good. End.

cool story bro.

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myresolution_72

· #8 · Nov 23, 2009

Depends on your out view, in this case I would take favor of the PC while showing the mac is a capable piece of electronics.

PC is better because they have a larger selection of games compared to Mac, but in Mac's defense the games that Mac create do tend to run more efficiently.

Next, PC's are more inexpensive but in Mac's defense, they never catch viruses.

PC's allow more development, your learning how to assemble a PC plus they are repairable, not sure about Mac but I'm sure you can't just up and build one then send it to a regular Geek Squad store to get it repaired.

PC's are more popular, more people know how to use Windows when compared to OSX.

.. Can't think of more, oh but the Mac's do have a nice built in web cam!

TFL Replica

· #9 · Nov 23, 2009

There's no beating/enlightening the mac cult with logic (assuming there will be fair number of them listening). In order to connect with your audience and make your speech persuasive for everyone you'll have to aim for their feelings and emotions in addition to logical arguments.

Once you dispel all the fake "sleek and shiny! I'm sooo cool just like my friends!" halo, they'll become vulnerable to logic.

If you're trying to avoid discussing PC building and games then you can at least use price a very powerful argument.

If discussing the software and operating systems watch out for the likely "lal you can install windows on a mac" during Q&A.

Answer is along the lines of: If you're going to install windows on a mac then you could have gotten a much better prebuilt/laptop instead of a shiny lump of white plastic with weaker hardware and that only one vendor can repair.

That's all for now, I'm tired. How long do you have until you do the speech?

Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · #10 · Nov 23, 2009

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Depends on your out view, in this case I would take favor of the PC while showing the mac is a capable piece of electronics.

PC is better because they have a larger selection of games compared to Mac, but in Mac's defense the games that Mac create do tend to run more efficiently.

Next, PC's are more inexpensive but in Mac's defense, they never catch viruses.

PC's allow more development, your learning how to assemble a PC plus they are repairable, not sure about Mac but I'm sure you can't just up and build one then send it to a regular Geek Squad store to get it repaired.

PC's are more popular, more people know how to use Windows when compared to OSX.

.. Can't think of more, oh but the Mac's do have a nice built in web cam!

Aren't Macs more vulnerable because they have similar hardware to each other and don't use an anti virus, it's just no one makes viruses for Macs because they aren't as popular? It's a rumor I once heard and I don't know how true it is.

If you wan't a mac repaired don't you have to send it back? Because I read that if your a smoker and you have a lot of crap in your mac because of it they won't work on it.

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Gizmo

· #11 · Nov 23, 2009

Out of the box Mac takes the cake. The build in software is fantastic for the typical computer user (note this...I'm not talking about even the most inept OCN member).

Their base systems (13" MBP, 27" iMac) can't be beat for the price. Additionally, resale value is incredible for anything Mac related. I bought a 13" MBP and resold it 4 weeks later for $25 less than I paid (including tax and such).

Phaedrus2129

· #12 · Nov 23, 2009

Mac OSX is based on BSD which does have certain features that make it less vulnerable to viruses and such than Windows is (OS X doesn't have a registry, for instance, and it doesn't leave as many sockets open). However Macs are still vulnerable to many different avenues of attack, and they have many unresolved remote holes.

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Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · #13 · Nov 23, 2009

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If you're trying to avoid discussing PC building and games then you can at least use price a very powerful argument.

If discussing the software and operating systems watch out for the likely "lal you can install windows on a mac" during Q&A.

Answer is along the lines of: If you're going to install windows on a mac then you could have gotten a much better prebuilt/laptop instead of a shiny lump of white plastic with weaker hardware and that only one vendor can repair.

That's all for now, I'm tired. How long do you have until you do the speech?

You just summed up the main points of my argument, and I was going to address boot camp with "Your paying a premium so that you can install WINDOWS on it? Save yourself some money."

Speech is tomorrow, but it's not like I am doing this last minute. I have the speech prepared, I am polishing it up and getting ready for Q&A mostly.

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Mac OSX is based on BSD which does have certain features that make it less vulnerable to viruses and such than Windows is (OS X doesn't have a registry, for instance, and it doesn't leave as many sockets open). However Macs are still vulnerable to many different avenues of attack, and they have many unresolved remote holes.

TY, that post was helpful.

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kurosu

· #14 · Nov 23, 2009

Throw in a "qualifier" like Macs have a user friendly operating system and are preferred among graphic artists, but they essentially have the exact same hardware. Since they have the same hardware, you can install OSX on your pc with a few minor tweaks. Therefore, the pc is superior to the Mac in terms of price because the same pc which is capable of running OSX would cost much less, and is equally as powerful for a cheaper price!

Phaedrus2129

· #15 · Nov 23, 2009

No problem.

Info on the registry: I'm not going to go into technical details here. But a registry provides a theoretical increase in program performance over not using a registry and having to fetch data without it. This is why Windows uses it. However the speed increase isn't all that great for consumer software, being more useful for server and database software. And since home PCs are usually a lot less well protected than your average server it's a lot easier for a virus or other malware to sneak in and modify the registry. And once the registry is corrupted it can be hard to clean it out without crippling the operating system.

So the Windows registry was a good idea in theory, but in practice made the OS a lot more open to attack.

gr1mo

· #16 · Nov 23, 2009

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I'm extremely surprised by all of the stupid responses your getting. I guess it's all of the young children on the forum. No one here ever dives in to the technical aspect of why windows sucks, and why OSX/BSD is superior.

Just some key reasons why OSX is superior:

Better File System. HFS+ is faster, and efficient. NTFS is a disgusting mess.
OS X's structural design allows for the communication of data via the user level, to the kernel, drivers and hardware, to be more efficient than that of any compared windows operating systems. OS X utilizes multiprocessing and multithreading properly with out having to go through loops and strings and doing a half finished job. There's none of this DLL and spaghetti code non-sense as you will find in any windows operating system. The Security permission's are logical but quite superior to those of windows.
Any Microsoft OS has an unstable architectural design, which shows poor performance in multiprocessing, multithreading, and general communication between user level applications to the operating system kernel, device drivers, and the hardware. Microsoft is regarded as the most insecure operating system, by true professionals not (OCN folks). A spaghetti code mess, full of loop holes and backdoor's twisted and tangled inefficient code all throughout.
OS X is far more reliable, requiring less maintenance, You will rarely experience a crash on OS X, and rebooting your computer is not such a problem as you will find within windows operating systems. Since OS X is based on BSD and Unix, historically this will show you the simple fact that OS X is the dominant operating system in true performance and reliability.
Microsoft uses aggressive marketing strategies, unfair strategies and practices. The monopoly they hold of the market is not good for any consumer or business. Most users aren't even aware that there are different kinds of operating systems available, or what the operating system actually is.

Ok, that was fun, now, kiddies, entertain me with your attempt's to some how defeat the truth. "But theres no gaming on Macs

" You cant upgrade every time a new video card comes out for $400 for no absolute reason but to play games

" News flash, Computers weren't created for the use of games, the intent is to be productive. Guess what, the unified pixel shaders and vortex processors, and the clock speed on w/e video card apple decides to place in the iMac or Mac Pro, is sufficient to professional use such as animation rendering and graphical design.

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Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · #17 · Nov 23, 2009

Most of those points don't matter to my target audience.

evermooingcow

· #18 · Nov 23, 2009

I can't tell if this is a comparison of Apple assembled hardware vs common PC hardware or if its Mac OS vs Windows.

Should sepcify whether or not the OS is fixed to Mac: Mac OS, PC: Windows for the purpose of the discussion.

Drizzt5

Discussion Starter · #19 · Nov 23, 2009

It's Mac (both hardware and OS that you purchase) vs PC's with windows on them in general.

Lelouch

· #20 · Nov 23, 2009

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Aren't Macs more vulnerable because they have similar hardware to each other and don't use an anti virus, it's just no one makes viruses for Macs because they aren't as popular? It's a rumor I once heard and I don't know how true it is.

If you wan't a mac repaired don't you have to send it back? Because I read that if your a smoker and you have a lot of crap in your mac because of it they won't work on it.

Negatory. Unix/BSD/OSX are more secure by default, but not bullet proof of course.

And who knows if other companies wont repair, it certainly wouldnt get the press coverage anything apple does.

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Throw in a "qualifier" like Macs have a user friendly operating system and are preferred among graphic artists, but they essentially have the exact same hardware. Since they have the same hardware, you can install OSX on your pc with a few minor tweaks. Therefore, the pc is superior to the Mac in terms of price because the same pc which is capable of running OSX would cost much less, and is equally as powerful for a cheaper price!

And its against the EULA to install it on your pc, and not everything is gauranteed to work. Not to mention his target audience wouldnt know how to install windows.

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