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Is there any actual date for when this comes out? Is there any news on what the line up is for it? How will a $100 DX10 card compare to like a 7600 GT or anything else in that price range (I'm going to guess that the price of a GT will drop to around 100 when DX10 comes out.)
 

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When Vista is released, so will DX10. DX10 will only work on Vista. No one really knows (or is talking about) how dx10 will affect performance of old and new cards.
 

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You can expect some to pop up sometime spring but I don't think you'll be able to find any at $100<br />
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There is no way of knowing how they will perform
 

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Hey..remember they will have DirectX9L or something..whichever letter it was...which is equivalent to dx10..supposely..
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Hey..remember they will have DirectX9L or something..whichever letter it was...which is equivalent to dx10..supposely..</div>

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</div>nope DX9L is NOT DX10. DX9L is for Vista to run DX9 card. Thats all.
 

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DX10 will be just like DX9 after a bit. There will be cards for every price range that will fill every performance niche. It is unlikely that there will be an equivalent to the 7600gt, however. Its price is much lower than it could be - the 7600gt is by far the best midrange GPU I've ever seen.
 

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I was asking this because I just saw some more benchmarks out there, and the x1900XTX was getting beat by like 40some percent by the 8800, and I didn't know if this increase in performance be the same throughout the whole 8000 line. So basically, what I was wondering was if a budget card that's DX10 compete/beat a mainstream DX9 card.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was asking this because I just saw some more benchmarks out there, and the x1900XTX was getting beat by like 40some percent by the 8800, and I didn't know if this increase in performance be the same throughout the whole 8000 line. So basically, what I was wondering was if a budget card that's DX10 compete/beat a mainstream DX9 card.</div>
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When mainstream 100$ directx10 cards are released the 7600GT will be old. Off course they will be quicker then 7600Gt cards, its a whole new generation of videocards. Give it a year and a half maybe longer for them to come out. I dont even think there will be any 7600Gts left then.<br><br>
To ask if a mainstream directx10 card is as good as a 7600gt is a silly question if you ask me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)">
 

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I don't know how the mainstream launch for DX10 is going to happen. I don't know if they're launching them all at once, or it is gradual. <br />
How is it silly to compare a newer generation to current? Isn't that what were suppose to do, find out the performance increase? If the 7600GT beats out a 100 DX10 card, why would I get a DX10 card? Why would I get something where I would see no gain in, instead of just waiting until DX10 is actually required to play games?
 

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there r no DX10 card cost 100$ when it just come out. u might have to wait like 10-12month, after that the G8800 might be 100$. If they still have any of them left for sell.<br>
But by than the new Video cards will be wayyyy better than G8800.
 

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The 8800 will never cost $100. It is a High End card, and the lowest it will ever get is probably 250-300. There will be $100 DX10 cards, because nVidia and ATi have to cover all ranges. That is why we have the 7300 7600 7800 7900, or x1300 x1600 x1800 x1900. <br />
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What I am asking, because it seems like no one can read here, is how will the budget DX10 card compare to a midrange DX9 card. This is the same as comparing the 7300 to the 6600 or the x800 to the x1300. Generally, the older outperforms the newer, just because budget cards are very crippled. However, hearing how DX10 is so much more powerful than DX9, I didn't know would this trend continue.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">What I am asking, because it seems like no one can read here, is how will the budget DX10 card compare to a midrange DX9 card. This is the same as comparing the 7300 to the 6600 or the x800 to the x1300. Generally, the older outperforms the newer, just because budget cards are very crippled. However, hearing how DX10 is so much more powerful than DX9, I didn't know would this trend continue.</div>

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</div>Ok, first off, this is all speculation. However, the way I see it, DX10 Budget cards (8300,8400) *should* be as good, if not better than the midrange dx9 cards (7600) for two reasons. One, they will support SM4.0 which is more efficient then SM3.0. Second, and most important, while the 8300/8400 may have less pixel / vertex shaders, it will utilize the unified shader architecture, which will allow it to use what it has more effiecently. Thats just my 2 cp though.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Ok, first off, this is all speculation. However, the way I see it, DX10 Budget cards (8300,8400) *should* be as good, if not better than the midrange dx9 cards (7600) for two reasons. One, they will support SM4.0 which is more efficient then SM3.0. Second, and most important, while the 8300/8400 may have less pixel / vertex shaders, it will utilize the unified shader architecture, which will allow it to use what it has more effiecently. Thats just my 2 cp though.</div>

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</div>Who said that there will be nvidia 8300 or 8400 ?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Who said that there will be nvidia 8300 or 8400 ?</div>

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</div>I can only assume that come the time when DX10 cards are considered mainstream, that Nvidia will release a "lower" end version of the G80 chip capable of utilizing DX10. After all, I think it ludicrous to think that the next gen laptops will only be available with 8800GT's and above.<img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> Somewhere along the line Nvidia will have to create a full line of 8XXX cards to fully saturate tomorrows computer market, whether it be low end OEM builders (8300/8400), midrange users (8600), or high end power users (8800GTX/8900GTX). While nothing has been said by Nvidia about this (to my knowledge), I personally think the release of such cards in inevitable. However, my first sentance of the post you quoted was "Ok, first off, this is all speculation." Keep that in mind.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">When Vista is released, so will DX10. DX10 will only work on Vista. No one really knows (or is talking about) how dx10 will affect performance of old and new cards.</div>

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</div>DX10 cards will work with XP, they just won't be used to their full potential. The G80 will, for a little while, be a kick-ass DX9 (DX10 capable) card.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The 8800 will never cost $100. It is a High End card, and the lowest it will ever get is probably 250-300. There will be $100 DX10 cards, because nVidia and ATi have to cover all ranges. That is why we have the 7300 7600 7800 7900, or x1300 x1600 x1800 x1900.<br><br>
What I am asking, because it seems like no one can read here, is how will the budget DX10 card compare to a midrange DX9 card. This is the same as comparing the 7300 to the 6600 or the x800 to the x1300. Generally, the older outperforms the newer, just because budget cards are very crippled. However, hearing how DX10 is so much more powerful than DX9, I didn't know would this trend continue.</div>
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1 year later. I am sure u can find a 8800 OEM in Ebay for 100$.<br><br>
I have a VOODOO3 Video Card, It was the High End card Back in the Day when i got it.<br>
If u can pay me 100$ for it. I ship it to u with OverNight S&H. lolol<br>
I am saying is dont matter how high end the Video card is, after 1-2 year it will be Super CHEAP!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">there r no DX10 card cost 100$ when it just come out. u might have to wait like 10-12month, after that the G8800 might be 100$. If they still have any of them left for sell.<br />
But by than the new Video cards will be wayyyy better than G8800.</div>

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