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i.e. something like a Microsoft Natural 6000, but with keys that this 30 year Bass Player won't pound into oatmeal in 6 months. <i>(...not much of an exaggeration: I have to buy new every year because something or other stops working)</i><br><br>
I've found split boards... but none of them have a full sized home/numpad.<br><br>
Gotta exist??<br><br><br>
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Man, I wish there was a mechanical Microsoft Natural 4000. I think that would be the most perfect keyboard ever. Good luck finding one though - I never managed to find anything satisfactory when I was looking for the same thing, and so eventually just settled with the Filco. It turned out great though, and I honestly don't miss the Natural 4000 - much.
 
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Look into the Chicony KB-7000 and its rebrands. I have a PC Reveal KB-7061 which is a rebranded KB-7000. White Alps switches, split ergonomic with a full sized numpad.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~duelist/kb-7061/top.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 
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Datadesk Smartboard<br><br><img alt="" src="http://typophile.com/files/smartboard-lg_4362.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
Kinesis Advantage<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/kb_adv-blk720x471.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
Truly Ergonomic<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.trulyergonomic.com/images/Truly_Ergonomic_Keyboard.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
X-Keys<br><br><img alt="" src="http://ergocanada.com/products/numeric_keypads/programmable_keypads/piengineering/xkeys/xkeys/images/pie_xkeys_desktop_576x488.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
Kinesis.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.ergocanada.com/products/numeric_keypads/kinesis/low_force_tactile_numeric_keypad/images/ac210usb-blk_200x200.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
Goldtouch<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.ergocanada.com/products/other/goldtouch_gtc0077_220x231.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
iOne<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.ergocanada.com/images/cks_32key_keypad_200x193.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 
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Halciet - Yeah: A mechanical MS 4000/6000 would likely be the most perfect ever...<br><br>
Couple of choices then - Either hunt down a Chicony, or order the Truly Ergonomic and use a separate keypad.<br><br>
Thank You Christine(Imnop) and Phaedrus.<br><br><br>
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There's one just like mine (the PC Reveal) on ebay right now, though for a bit more than I paid. Same seller. He'll sometimes do dirty tricks with pictures (blue shifting to hide yellowing), or make stuff up in the description, but Geekhackers have bought a lot of keyboards from him and he has yet to rip anyone off.<br><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337413396&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FPC-REVEAL-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-ERGONOMIC-MICROSOFT-DELL-%2F290495817500%3Fpt%3DPCA_Mice_Trackballs%26hash%3Ditem43a2e6671c" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-REVEAL-CLICKY...item43a2e6671c</a><br><br>
It's a good keyboard, better build quality than most of Chicony's keyboards (makes the KB-5181 feel like junk; which it was), and the white Alps are pretty pleasant, though not my favorite switches. I think it might be a good option.
 

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remember if your comparing the ergo4k to just a basic split keyboard, it won't have negative slope(yea you could just put a binder under it) or the slight tilt towards the center (none have these unless they are super weird kinesis) or the nice molded faux leather wrist rest.<br><br>
going from an ergo4k to just a split keyboard is basically the same as just going back to a regular 104key, there's almost no difference!
 

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I'm pretty sure the DataDesk Smartboard (Darwin Board) is no longer available. As is true for most of the keyboards pictured in the OCN Mechanical Keyboard Guide.
 

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PerfecTouch 101 Ergo 2000<br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/1.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/2.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/3.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/4.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/5.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/6.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/7.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/8.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/9.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/10.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/11.pg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/12.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/13.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/14.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/15.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/16.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/17.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/18.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/19.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/20.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/perfectouch/21.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Look into the Chicony KB-7000 and its rebrands. I have a PC Reveal KB-7061 which is a rebranded KB-7000. White Alps switches, split ergonomic with a full sized numpad.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~duelist/kb-7061/top.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"></div>
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The Northgate is better:<br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/reveal1.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
vs<br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/omnikey/4.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
Switches look the same, feel different. Ripster will explain it to you, he's an Alps expert and connoisseur, and lives for this stuff:<br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/reveal3.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
vs<br><br><img alt="" src="http://webwit.nl/input/ergonomic/omnikey/8.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><img alt="" src="http://gradtripfleamarket.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/one-flew-over-the-cuckoos-nest2.jpg?w=300&h=190" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><i>Alps experts discussing Fake ***ka vs Real Complicated</i>
 

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For detailed information on ALPS please refer to <a href="http://www.overclock.net/6009418-post2.html" target="_blank">this section</a> in the OCN Mechanical Keyboard guide.
 

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Webwit, I didn't realize this thing had doubleshots.<br><br><br>
My happiness with this purchase just went up 10%.
 
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