Looks like you may need to look into other case possibilities. Maybe broaden your size range by a slight amount.
Also, why 660Ti? There are better cards for the money.
Also, why 660Ti? There are better cards for the money.
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2. There isn't any SFX PSU higher than 450W.
3. Gold, modular, 140mm http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=350&area=en, but how does it solve problem 1? Case is still too small.
4. MiniFitJr connector can't be made right angle. The pins are 17mm long and run almost the whole length of the connector.
1. You don't need 850W to drive two 660Tis. A 650W will do even with overclocked 3770K.Originally Posted by ScoutX
Problem 1> I can't find a case similar to this that can take an 850w-1000w ATX Power Supply (PSU)
Problem 2> I can't find a modular 850w-1000w SFX PSU (The size this case actually takes)
Problem 3> I can't find an 850w-1000w ATX PSU that's 150mm deep or less (would solve problem1)
Problem 4> I can't find Right Angle PCI-E 6 Pin adapters (Normal ones won't fit in tight case space)
Problem 5> I can't find an Asus V7 case unless I buy the whole system from Asus (This case fits)
2. There isn't any SFX PSU higher than 450W.
3. Gold, modular, 140mm http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=350&area=en, but how does it solve problem 1? Case is still too small.
4. MiniFitJr connector can't be made right angle. The pins are 17mm long and run almost the whole length of the connector.
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Edit: although OP also mentioned the Asus V7 which is 22 liters.
So, ScoutX, what size do you actually want? 12 liters like the InWin you got, or don't you mind non-SFF like over 20 liters?
All these cases are 2x larger in volume than what the OP linked...
Edit: although OP also mentioned the Asus V7 which is 22 liters.
So, ScoutX, what size do you actually want? 12 liters like the InWin you got, or don't you mind non-SFF like over 20 liters?
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Sorry yeah SG02 is only 17 liters, and indeed temps are going to be horrible with dual GPUs in any case that's smaller than the SG10.Originally Posted by Biorganic
And the sugo is definitely not 2x the volume. ... Plus running dual cards in that thing would be pretty bad for temps.
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Also, what are you using this thing for?
Yeah, I'd definetly go with a more expensive single card solution as opposed to 2 lesser cards, which will draw more power and produce more heat and noise.Originally Posted by Biorganic
And yet I dont see a ton of options for his issues. I was just linking possibilities. And the sugo is definitely not 2x the volume.
There is a reason why he is having issues with such a build in that case. Plus running dual cards in that thing would be pretty bad for temps.
Also, what are you using this thing for?
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^ThisOriginally Posted by Purger
Yeah, I'd definetly go with a more expensive single card solution as opposed to 2 lesser cards, which will draw more power and produce more heat and noise.
Also, what are you using this thing for?
Greetings Everyone!
Thanks for all the responses. I didn't expect so many so soon.
In order to answer your questions and reply coherently without losing my frame of thought I'll answer most of them with this message.
In response to Biorganic: The reason I'm using two GTX-660Ti cards is because I already had them. I rather not spend more money when I already have two decent cards.
Also, I know about the other cases that are larger than this one and are Micro ATX. I was just seeing if anyone could find one similar to this size first.
And you are 100% right as far as options go. I've spent several days looking at alternative cases I may have to settle on, and it looks like I'll be doing just that. Unless someone on Ebay is willing to sell off his V7 ASUS Case.
In Response to Wisk: I already have 2 660Ti card
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, just saving some money.
Gotcha on the SFX limitation as well. It was worth a try, being that it's 2013, I was hoping someone would've invented one by now.
As for the 650w Silverstone Gold PSU, Yes it's 140mm in depth, but it's only the 650w. The higher Watt versions are all 180mm. 650w is not enough to power overclocked I7-3770k + 2 overclocked 660Ti cards plus a 2TB 7200 rpm Seagate Drive. Everyone I've talked to and most of the overclock articles I've read say 750 minimum for that setup. Or am I completely wrong on this?
You're also correct about the Right Angle pin setup on the PCI-E 6 pin connectors. However, I did find a possible adapter available which i'll be checking into very soon on Ebay> http://compare.ebay.com/like/130750508977?_lwgsi=y<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar#
I was looking to put this system into the smallest Case I could find just to see if I could get it to work, plusw a little self gratification if i could pull it off.
In Response to Purger and LegendOfVirgil: If I had the money, I would be doing SLI with the top Nivida cards
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I here you, but my wallet is deaf!
What inspired me to do this was actually a PC that's made by Falcon-Northwest called the Tiki. Although it is a 3.8 inch wide SFF mini ITX case. They still managed to put in a full size video card horizontally as well as a 120mm liquid cooler. Not too shabby for such a small case.
As for Heat issues. I planned on using a bunch of low profile fans plus the liquid cooler, and drill a few exrtra holes for more ventilation.
Or I can just get either a Rosewill LINE-M Micro-ATX Mini Tower or the Fractal Design ARC Mini both of which can use the Corsair H00i or the upcoming Swiftech H220 Liquid Coolers. But that's only if fate doesn't present me with a case similar in size than this one but only little larger so I have room for the PSU and Standard PCI-E Connectors. sigh.
Thanks for all the responses. I didn't expect so many so soon.
In order to answer your questions and reply coherently without losing my frame of thought I'll answer most of them with this message.
In response to Biorganic: The reason I'm using two GTX-660Ti cards is because I already had them. I rather not spend more money when I already have two decent cards.
Also, I know about the other cases that are larger than this one and are Micro ATX. I was just seeing if anyone could find one similar to this size first.
And you are 100% right as far as options go. I've spent several days looking at alternative cases I may have to settle on, and it looks like I'll be doing just that. Unless someone on Ebay is willing to sell off his V7 ASUS Case.
In Response to Wisk: I already have 2 660Ti card
Gotcha on the SFX limitation as well. It was worth a try, being that it's 2013, I was hoping someone would've invented one by now.
As for the 650w Silverstone Gold PSU, Yes it's 140mm in depth, but it's only the 650w. The higher Watt versions are all 180mm. 650w is not enough to power overclocked I7-3770k + 2 overclocked 660Ti cards plus a 2TB 7200 rpm Seagate Drive. Everyone I've talked to and most of the overclock articles I've read say 750 minimum for that setup. Or am I completely wrong on this?
You're also correct about the Right Angle pin setup on the PCI-E 6 pin connectors. However, I did find a possible adapter available which i'll be checking into very soon on Ebay> http://compare.ebay.com/like/130750508977?_lwgsi=y<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar#
I was looking to put this system into the smallest Case I could find just to see if I could get it to work, plusw a little self gratification if i could pull it off.
In Response to Purger and LegendOfVirgil: If I had the money, I would be doing SLI with the top Nivida cards
What inspired me to do this was actually a PC that's made by Falcon-Northwest called the Tiki. Although it is a 3.8 inch wide SFF mini ITX case. They still managed to put in a full size video card horizontally as well as a 120mm liquid cooler. Not too shabby for such a small case.
As for Heat issues. I planned on using a bunch of low profile fans plus the liquid cooler, and drill a few exrtra holes for more ventilation.
Or I can just get either a Rosewill LINE-M Micro-ATX Mini Tower or the Fractal Design ARC Mini both of which can use the Corsair H00i or the upcoming Swiftech H220 Liquid Coolers. But that's only if fate doesn't present me with a case similar in size than this one but only little larger so I have room for the PSU and Standard PCI-E Connectors. sigh.
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the 3770k has a TDP of 77W
so... you are looking at a max synthetic load of 377W. considering you will never reach synthetic load in normal gaming... you can OC everything and still only reach MAYBE 400W in "realistic" gaming load. you throw in another 50W draw for everything else in the box you are looking at a max gaming load of 450W. (hence why SFX PSU doesn't go higher). if you have a killowatt meter, you can measure your machine at the wall and see EXACTLY what you are actually pulling during gaming...
so yah... i'd say a high quality 650W unit like a seasonic X would provide more then OVERKILL for your rig
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if you dont believe my math, send a PM to original sin who is the PSU editor of OCN and ask him directly
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don't believe the kilowatt PSU hype. just look at the actual draw from the wall. it doesn't lie
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when it comes to PSU, quality is FAR more important then the rated wattage because a high quality unit can ACTUALLY deliver the rated wattage w/o sagging or spikes. most of your sources are uneducated rumors propagated by those don't know any better and cant do math entirely
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660Ti has a TDP of 150W. which puts a pair of them at 300WOriginally Posted by ScoutX
As for the 650w Silverstone Gold PSU, Yes it's 140mm in depth, but it's only the 650w. The higher Watt versions are all 180mm. 650w is not enough to power overclocked I7-3770k + 2 overclocked 660Ti cards plus a 2TB 7200 rpm Seagate Drive. Everyone I've talked to and most of the overclock articles I've read say 750 minimum for that setup. Or am I completely wrong on this?
the 3770k has a TDP of 77W
so... you are looking at a max synthetic load of 377W. considering you will never reach synthetic load in normal gaming... you can OC everything and still only reach MAYBE 400W in "realistic" gaming load. you throw in another 50W draw for everything else in the box you are looking at a max gaming load of 450W. (hence why SFX PSU doesn't go higher). if you have a killowatt meter, you can measure your machine at the wall and see EXACTLY what you are actually pulling during gaming...
so yah... i'd say a high quality 650W unit like a seasonic X would provide more then OVERKILL for your rig
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it will be hard to do SLI with anything smaller then SG03Originally Posted by ScoutX
That's a good case, too. I've looked at most of the newest cases coming out as well. But I really want to stay away from Computer Bricks. Just a personal thing. I like my cases slim and small. If there can be such a thing in SLI I mean.
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And again about the power draw. Here is 660ti tested by reputable reviewers http://hardocp.com/article/2012/10/31/galaxy_geforce_gtx_660_ti_gc_3gb_sli_review/10
They measured at load 501W from the wall. So 450W inside the PSU - which corresponds to what psyclum said at top of page. This was with an i7 @ 4.8GHz and both 660Ti cards overclocked.
ST65F-G has two cables that end in 4 connectors. http://www.silverstonetek.com/goods_cable_define/st65f-g-cable-define.pdfOriginally Posted by ScoutX
I checked out available 650w PSUs from Seasonic, Silverstone, and others. Sadly, however, none of them, come with the needed Four PCI-E 6 pin connectors. The most they offer are two.
And again about the power draw. Here is 660ti tested by reputable reviewers http://hardocp.com/article/2012/10/31/galaxy_geforce_gtx_660_ti_gc_3gb_sli_review/10
They measured at load 501W from the wall. So 450W inside the PSU - which corresponds to what psyclum said at top of page. This was with an i7 @ 4.8GHz and both 660Ti cards overclocked.
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you really only have 1 choice for high performance rig if small SLi is what you are looking for. the SG09/10 are the smallest SLi boxes that still offer the capability of good cooling for all components. personally i'm more partial towards TJ08-E however SG09/10 is smaller.Originally Posted by ScoutX
Strictly for the purposes of trying to get an SLI setup in the smallest case size possible.
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every one of the PSU's in that list is considered quality PSU and can be trusted. getting a poor PSU is a really bad 1st step towards a good build.
i wouldn't just pick some random PSU. if you are looking for alternatives, look in this listOriginally Posted by ScoutX
Thanks for the response and info Psyclum.
I checked out available 650w PSUs from Seasonic, Silverstone, and others. Sadly, however, none of them, come with the needed Four PCI-E 6 pin connectors. The most they offer are two. But the good / not so good news is that I did find a Coolmaster GX-750 that is 150x140x86mm which will work in the case. Unfortunately it is only a mediocre PSU with so-so reviews. But since it's a 750 (initially anyway) It should be able to handle the 2 video cards, processor and 2TB HD even though its not as efficient as the better ones from Seasonic. The other issue is that there seems to be an old version of this PSU and a new one. Some stats say it has only 2 PCI-E connections and other stats say it has 4 and is SLI ready. Still trying to confirm this though.
every one of the PSU's in that list is considered quality PSU and can be trusted. getting a poor PSU is a really bad 1st step towards a good build.
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