the mobo is still broke i tested the ram on my other rig and it worked fine the processors ok so its definately the mobo acting up. thing is the mobo used to have a watercooling kit on it now its full of grease, conformal , a piece of neoprene got stuck to it, and the stock rentention mechanism looks a little **** eyed and when i talked to asus they said they do not cover any physical alterations of the mobo so im screwed. anyways i purchased this 45 dollar asrock fruit cake mobo it should suffice as a secondary rig for myself and little brother.