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<font color="Blue"><b>UPDATED!</b> see page 2!</font><br />
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Project Tsunami<br />
So this will basically end up being a build log, once i get everyones advice i will change the title and move forward with this log<br />
What i'd like to know is what everyone thinks will be the approximate cost of the following rig at Christmas (USD)<br />
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<b>What I Have:</b><br />
OCZ Gamextream 700W <font color="YellowGreen">(Allready Bought)</font><br />
Thermaltake Tsunami <font color="YellowGreen">(Allready Bought)</font><br />
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<b>What I Want:</b><br />
Asus P5B Deluxe<br />
Core 2 Duo E6600<br />
2Gb G-Skill DDR2 800 HZ<br />
2 x 250Gb Seagate Perpendiculars <b>OR</b> 2 x 250 Gb Western Digital SE16's<br />
nVidia 8800 GTS (that's the cheap one right?)<br />
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I'm trying to figure out what i'll be able to afford and have left over for WC...<br />
Feel free to tear my rig apart and rebuild yourself, i wanna hear what you can throw together. Quad core is too expensive. right now this is pushing my budget even without the dx 10 card. Opinions on absolutely everything are welcomed and appreciated<br />
Cheers!<br />
ThaLoveDocta
 

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$800 for the 'What I want' parts, excluding the 8800 GTS. The 8800 GTS starts at around $500....
 

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Still 800$ at christmas? holy crap... i figured quad core's release would help more...<br />
whatcha think of the rig otherwise? everything for a good OC? and will the 8800 run fine on my OCZ 700W what about SLI? probly not eh?
 

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A single one should run fine.... SLI... I don't think so. But you can always add <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104019" target="_blank">this</a> for the second card.<br />
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The Quad Core release will mainly have an affect on the high end CPUs. Note that in November only the QX6700 will be released, which will be priced around $1,000. That will have little to no impact on the price of the $180 E6300. The X6800 will probably drop a bit (and phased out), but I don't see any other of the Core 2 Duos dropping in price.<br />
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Depending on what impact the RD600 and possibly a new nVidia board have, the motherboard might drop a little, but only like $10 - $15 imo. The board will not be outdated, since it will support Kentsfield.<br />
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RAM prices have been fluctuating a lot lately. This is the item where you *might* be lucky, but prices might go up even more as well... thus, I'd expect the same price just to be sure.<br />
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HDDs: don't expect and price drops here...they're already dirt cheap. Maybe picking up two 160GB/16MB cache drives can save you a little money.<br />
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$750 absolute bottom estimate.<br />
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It's a really good overclocking set up. However, you mentioned SLI, and the P5B Deluxe is not that good for it (x16, x4 bandwidth in SLI mode, and with the 8800's that will likely be too much of a limitation).
 

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</div>Just a little hint mate. <br />
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Get the Seagates with Perpindicular recording..Great performance and will serve you a little better than those Western digitals.
 

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I'd look into 4x 80GB S HDD's. The speed will be much faster but your CPU usage will go up a little. (Which means NOTHING to your E6600)<br />
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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148148" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148148</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">A single one should run fine.... SLI... I don't think so. But you can always add <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104019" target="_blank">this</a> for the second card.<br />
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The Quad Core release will mainly have an affect on the high end CPUs. Note that in November only the QX6700 will be released, which will be priced around $1,000. That will have little to no impact on the price of the $180 E6300. The X6800 will probably drop a bit (and phased out), but I don't see any other of the Core 2 Duos dropping in price.<br />
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Depending on what impact the RD600 and possibly a new nVidia board have, the motherboard might drop a little, but only like $10 - $15 imo. The board will not be outdated, since it will support Kentsfield.<br />
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RAM prices have been fluctuating a lot lately. This is the item where you *might* be lucky, but prices might go up even more as well... thus, I'd expect the same price just to be sure.<br />
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HDDs: don't expect and price drops here...they're already dirt cheap. Maybe picking up two 160GB/16MB cache drives can save you a little money.<br />
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$750 absolute bottom estimate.<br />
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It's a really good overclocking set up. However, you mentioned SLI, and the P5B Deluxe is not that good for it (x16, x4 bandwidth in SLI mode, and with the 8800's that will likely be too much of a limitation).</div>

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Very good to know about the power supply i imagine many will chose to do this if the power hungry rumours are infact true.<br />
Also, you mentioned that the E6300 would not be affected, do you think this is true of the 6600 i'm looking to get? (also were your estimates earlier based on you thinking it was a 6300 i wanted?)<br />
I need the drive space of at least 500Gb i was thinking of even going with 2x320's if the price seems right. (extra 15$ each...)<br />
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Also with the P5B i've conisdered going with the P5W, but i want RAID support, and the raid is more important to me than the SLI. Also, is it possible one of these boards will fix their respective problems in a future bios? If so wouldn't the newer 965 chipset be a safer choice (more room to grow?)<br />
Thanks to everyone so far!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Just a little hint mate. <br />
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Get the Seagates with Perpindicular recording..Great performance and will serve you a little better than those Western digitals.</div>

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</div>Seagates it is...<br />
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When these comclusions have been finalized i will update my sig.
 

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Woops... E6600.. Posting while sleepy is not good.<br />
Yes, I did assume an E6300.<br />
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Make that $900 then... sorry about that <img src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Embarrassment" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Asus P5B Deluxe $175<br />
Core 2 Duo E6600 $275<br />
2Gb G-Skill DDR2 800 HZ $300<br />
2 x 250Gb Seagate Perpendiculars OR 2 x 250 Gb Western Digital SE16's $150<br />
Total $900
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Woops... E6600.. Posting while sleepy is not good.<br />
Yes, I did assume an E6300.<br />
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Make that $900 then... sorry about that <img src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Embarrassment" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>That's allright... i realized after that's still a nice price drop in only two months...<br />
and don't feel bad about the sleep thing i wrote 'comclusions' in my last post. lol
 

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Anyone have any insight into the BIOS/SLI/RAID quesiton?<br />
Also, why are the Perpendiculars better than the WD's with the 16 Mb cache?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Anyone have any insight into the BIOS/SLI/RAID quesiton?<br>
Also, why are the Perpendiculars better than the WD's with the 16 Mb cache?</div>
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Yeah..Ive got one of the WD2500ks 16mb and I'm thinking about getting another to RAID-0
 

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The Seagates have newer technology, and perform well...<br><br>
But heck, I have four of those KS drives, and I love 'em
 

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<b><span style="font-size:x-large;">UPDATE!</span></b><br><br><br><b>What I Have:</b><br>
OCZ Gamextream 700W <span>(Ordered)</span><br>
Thermaltake Tsunami <span>(Arrived)</span><br>
2 x 320Gb Seagate 7200.10 Perpendiculars <span>(Ordered)</span><br><br><b>What I Think I Want:</b><br>
Asus P5B Deluxe<br>
Core 2 Duo E6600<br>
2Gb G-Skill DDR2 800 HZ<br>
nVidia 8800 GTS<br><br>
My Remaining Questions:<br>
1. Should i stick with the P5B or consider the P5W (remember i'm going raid right away, <b>mabye</b> SLI later that's a big mabye) but i want a MONSTER overclock on this thing.<br><br>
2. I've been looking at RAM is it worth it to try and spend the extra 30$ on ram that is DDR2 1066, and not as good an overclocker? or stick with the G-Skill HZ's ? i've seen some cheap OCZ Platinum DDR2 1000, and 1066 for like 330, 350 ish. what should i do there?<br><br>
3. Is there something glaring that i should change for a more powerfull OC?<br><br>
Thanks again!
 

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I'm thinking those HZ's would reach DDR2 1000 speeds.....plus, would you really need to get up to 500fsb anyway?
 

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I;ve never had this much trouble tryna figure out simple questions... it's kinda weird... ussually posts get answered in minutes... <br />
oh well, i guess i'll check back tomorrow!<br />
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Edit: I dunno what the FSB is like for the 6600 i've heard ppl have needed to go that high and higher... that's why i was wondering<img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Nay.. you don't need any higher speed RAM. You're overclocking an E6600, not an E6300/E6400. The higher multi will keep your FSP a little lower. And indeed, those G.Skills should hit DDR2 1000 speeds.<br />
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How are you going to cool that puppy?
 

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Plans for a WCooler are in the works... most likely a DD triple rad, D5 pump, and apogee/storm water block... i'll wait on the GPU reviews to cool that<img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 
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