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Hello guys! It's a pretty long thread here.
Can you tell me - is MSI B550 Unify\Unify X worth it in comparison to MSI B550 Carbon\Asus Strix B550-E?
What are the best memory kits for this motherboard and 5950x\5900x?

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There's no reason to get this board at 300€ over a 150€ board unless you want to do XOC RAM OC.
The best kits are arguable, for synced performance bdie is king due to how tight it can go, for XOC RAM OC, Rev E or something is much better.

3200 flat 14s, 3600 flat 16's are good cheap bdie bins for 16GB and 3200 flat 14's decent for 32GB too.
 

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My RAM overclock is stable only on 1.5V (read as 1.51-1.52 in BIOS). That's also an XMP voltage for my kit.
But I am a little afraid to run it 24/7 since Samsung B-Die datasheet specifies 1.5V as an absolute maximum. RAM just can degrade over time if the voltage is really above 1.5V
If it was or not I really wouldn't worry about it, it's 0.02v, if it was 0.1v then yeah I would get concerned. I'm leaning on hwinfo being accurate as it fluctuates, aida, cpuid hwmonitor also report the same. Just have a Google and see how many people have actually degraded b-die and there's none. Just get your memory stable, keep an eye on the temps, crack on and enjoy and stop giving yourself anxiety it's perfectly safe ;)
 

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Hello guys! It's a pretty long thread here.
Can you tell me - is MSI B550 Unify\Unify X worth it in comparison to MSI B550 Carbon\Asus Strix B550-E?
What are the best memory kits for this motherboard and 5950x\5900x?

Thx!
Unify is nice if you want debug led, codes, cmos reset button, excellent overclocking ability, not sure if the other motherboard have these.

I went from a Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro and the difference was noticeable, I could clock my memory higher and more stable.

The board is buggy imo, sometimes won't boot properly, gets into a loop and only starts to windows after pressing on button multiple times, even with no overclock. PBO settings don't save to bios profiles for some reason. It shows pbo settings in two different places in the bios, one place with only 6 cores when I have 8.

I have gskill 3200 c14 2x16gb kit that easily overclocks to 4000 and 4066 c16 with 1.48 to 1.5v
 
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I went from a Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro and the difference was noticeable, I could clock my memory higher and more stable.
Thx for the answer.
Can you tell what was stable numbers for memory with Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro in comparison to 4000c16 with Unify?
Are you able to run the IF on 2000 with Unify board? Did you run some benchmarks (synthetic\games) - is there some noticeable advantage after switching to Unify?
 

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Thx for the answer.
Can you tell what was stable numbers for memory with Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro in comparison to 4000c16 with Unify?
Are you able to run the IF on 2000 with Unify board? Did you run some benchmarks (synthetic\games) - is there some noticeable advantage after switching to Unify?
If I remember correctly 3733 C14 was the highest I got on the Aorus. 4000mhz was not possible but it may be that I just learned some tricks or things about other voltage tweaking since I got the unify and joined this thread.

I can get 2000 and 2033 IF stable and WHEA free.

1900IF won't boot at all on my 5800x and exactly the same on my 5900x on the unify also so appears to be a board limitation for me at least.

I don't have any benchmarks from Aorus, I kept it for 5 days and sold it after getting frustrated with the memory overclocking; the guy I bought the ram from used it in a x570 unify and was able to get 4000mhz...couldn't reach that with Aorus.
 
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Never been this low on tRFC:) .A joy to oc memory on this board.What is it indicating when tRFC is being lowered but no gains in performance?
Static OC competition on HWBOT.Most likely not a chance of catching intel system.PB at 3800/1900.

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Guys, I'm still considering this board for buying - What can you tell as the owners - are there any known issues? Stability, USB, Random reboots, Long booting time, Network, M2 speed, Sound, Noise, Bios - does everything work fine?
And one more question - any other good alternative for this board? Asus B550-XE\Gygabyte B550 Master\Asrock B550 Taichi - smth else?
 

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Guys, I'm still considering this board for buying - What can you tell as the owners - are there any known issues? Stability, USB, Random reboots, Long booting time, Network, M2 speed, Sound, Noise, Bios - does everything work fine?
And one more question - any other good alternative for this board? Asus B550-XE\Gygabyte B550 Master\Asrock B550 Taichi - smth else?
First thing i noticed was weight of board.Hefty.Second was onboard audio is superb.Head phones.
If you get a good board smooth sailing.All boards boot slow to me;).
 

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Link to stripped benching O/S. Testing as working today. Windows install ISO you need to set up with Autoruns and an already set up preconfigured Macrium image, no Autoruns, nothing needed, install the image, run Benchmate, select benchmark. Macrium Free, RUFUS and Autoruns included. Tested as working with no sound, no printing, all unneeded services disabled etc. Has Internet access though.

Read the InstructionsREADME!!!!!.txt included in the zip!!


See attached .txt file for what is removed from Windows.
I was waiting for this.
Bench.zip - (10.6 GB)?? Why so huge?

I have been using Windows 10 Debloater

And a video to explain how its done

But I have to try your offering.
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I was waiting for this.
Bench.zip - (10.6 GB)?? Why so huge?

I have been using Windows 10 Debloater

And a video to explain how its done

But I have to try your offering.
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Because it has a 3GB Windows install ISO AND a fully configured backed up Macrium Reflect Windows image in the zip file.

Did you even read the description I included in the post?

Edit: And I use this.

 

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Link to stripped benching O/S. Testing as working today. Windows install ISO you need to set up with Autoruns and an already set up preconfigured Macrium image, no Autoruns, nothing needed, install the image, run Benchmate, select benchmark. Macrium Free, RUFUS and Autoruns included. Tested as working with no sound, no printing, all unneeded services disabled etc. Has Internet access though.

Read the InstructionsREADME!!!!!.txt included in the zip!!


See attached .txt file for what is removed from Windows.
Oh, and if you need to install MSI Afterburner and I think I might have missed video card drivers, Run the included Autoruns64.exe as Admin, uncheck all the Hide options in Options, go to Services, enable TrustedInstaller, reboot, install Afterburner and/or your GPU drivers.
 
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Because it has a 3GB Windows install ISO AND a fully configured backed up Macrium Reflect Windows image in the zip file.

Did you even read the description I included in the post?

Edit: And I use this.

Yes, I saw the description above.
And I can only download from the 1rst of March - not enough data at moment.
But I will try it soon.
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Yes, I saw the description above.
And I can only download from the 1rst of March - not enough data at moment.
But I will try it soon.
Thanks
I can upload just the Macrium image for you if you want. It's the full O/S you install with Macrium Reflect Free.

Or just the 3GB Windows install ISO, read the instruction in the .txt file on how to set it up after a clean install though.

The bench O/S alone though is still 7GB. The ISO alone is 3.3GB
 
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I can upload just the Macrium image for you if you want. It's the full O/S you install with Macrium Reflect Free.

Or just the 3GB Windows install ISO, read the instruction in the .txt file on how to set it up after a clean install though.
Yes, leave the bench zip of 10GB, but add this option you just mentioned for download also.
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Yes, leave the bench zip of 10GB, but add this option you just mentioned for download also.
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Added Win10ISO only links, Benching O/S only and a file with everything in it.

Link to stripped benching O/S. Testing as working today. Windows install ISO you need to set up with Autoruns and an already set up preconfigured Macrium image, no Autoruns, nothing needed, install the image, run Benchmate, select benchmark. Macrium Free, RUFUS and Autoruns included. Tested as working with no sound, no printing, all unneeded services disabled etc. Has Internet access though.

Read the InstructionsREADME!!!!!.txt included in the zip!!

Oh, and if you need to install MSI Afterburner and I think I might have missed video card drivers, Run the included Autoruns64.exe as Admin, uncheck all the Hide options in Options, go to Services, enable TrustedInstaller, reboot, install Afterburner and/or your GPU drivers.

 

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Added Win10ISO only links, Benching O/S only and a file with everything in it.

Link to stripped benching O/S. Testing as working today. Windows install ISO you need to set up with Autoruns and an already set up preconfigured Macrium image, no Autoruns, nothing needed, install the image, run Benchmate, select benchmark. Macrium Free, RUFUS and Autoruns included. Tested as working with no sound, no printing, all unneeded services disabled etc. Has Internet access though.

Read the InstructionsREADME!!!!!.txt included in the zip!!

Oh, and if you need to install MSI Afterburner and I think I might have missed video card drivers, Run the included Autoruns64.exe as Admin, uncheck all the Hide options in Options, go to Services, enable TrustedInstaller, reboot, install Afterburner and/or your GPU drivers.

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'BenchOSOnly.rar (7.2GB) and Windows10ISOOnly.rar (3.1GB)?
Well, windows 10 only, is w10 only.
But what is included in 'BenchOSOnly.rar'?
 

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'BenchOSOnly.rar (7.2GB) and Windows10ISOOnly.rar (3.1GB)?
Well, windows 10 only, is w10 only.
But what is included in 'BenchOSOnly.rar'?
It's Windows 10, but a full Windows 10 backup image made with Macrium Reflect Free. This one takes zero-configuration except for installing Notepad++ and your video card drivers.

The Windows 10 ISO is for a clean install of Windows and you need to follow the included instructions to set it up for benching.

Everything you need to know is in the included ReadMe.txt files.

For example, the Windows 10 ISO ReadMe.

Unzip File.
Burn a Windows install GPT USB with the included RUFUS. It'll fit on a 4GB USB.
Install Macrium with the included file. Run Macrium, in Other Tasks make a boot USB. The USB Needs to be MBR FAT32.
You can make that with RUFUS as well.

Backup your current Windows on a spare drive or seconday rive, preferably an M.2 or SSD.
With the Windows install disk you made, boot from it UEFI. Install Windows.

Install Notepad++.

In Windows, install your chipset drivers. https://www.amd.com/en/products/chipsets-am4 and video card drivers with NVCleaninstall.
See the picture links for how to use NVCleaninstall.

Unzip the Autoruns.zip. Run Autoruns64.exe as Admin. In Options uncheck all the Hide options.
Go to Autoruns File/Compare and load the included DESKTOP.arn.
Uncheck everything that matches in the file that is not disabled. The Services are the most important.
Reboot. Run your benchmarks. Profit.

If you need to install MSI Afterburner and I think I might have missed video card drivers, Run the included Autoruns64.exe as Admin, uncheck all the Hide options in Options, go to Services, enable TrustedInstaller, reboot, install Afterburner and/or your GPU drivers.
 
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I have dailied my bdie kit at 1.6V for over a year on my old Zen 2 system and have had 0 signs of degradation on the CPU/RAM side.
Using the same kit now on my 5800X and still no issues whatsoever.
It's almost impossible to degrade a DIMM; the ICs are rated up to 85c.
You don't even get close to that with 2.0V.
Either you fry it or it works.
And frying as well it's hard, especially B-die.
It's a bunch of capacitors and transistors, not the same as a silicon die.
 

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Never been this low on tRFC:) .A joy to oc memory on this board.What is it indicating when tRFC is being lowered but no gains in performance?
Me too, never thought I could go so low :)
If it's bandwidth, probably you are at the limit of the DDR4 BUS for that frequency, hence no gain.
 
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