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My PVR Budget Project - completed - updated Jan. 03, 2008 - Not 56k friendly

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THIS IS MY OLD BUILD - I am no longer using this HTPC. I'm going to leave this in my sig for informational purposes.See my sig for the new build or click here.

UPDATED Jan 03, 2008.
Built February 2007



This is my first attempt to build a pvr. I have built many computers. My wife was using this computer until I got her a laptop for Christmas.

My Goals All Accomplished
DVR with recording 2 shows at once (Beyond TV)
Commercial Skip (Beyond TV)
Music Jukebox (Meedio)
Photo Album (Meedio)
Play ripped .ISO dvds (Meedio)
Play avi files (Meedio)
Show Weather (Meedio)

TV AND SOUND SPECS:
37" Polaroid HDTV
Pioneer Receiver and speakers

COMPUTER SPECS:

Compaq Presario 6000
Pentium 4 2.4 GHz
760mb Ram
40 gig hard drive

PARTS PURCHASED:
WinTV-PVR 150 tuner- $99
250 gig hard drive for tv show storage - $129.99
ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT AGP with tuner- around $50 on clearance

SOFTWARE USED:

Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Beyond TV DVR software - $69.99
Beyond TV Link software - $29.99
Meedio 1.41 - Get here - Free
Veoh TV Beta - Free Internet Videos (142 channels)
Joost Beta - Free Internet TV
FLV Splitter - Free -For playing flash content within Meedio, ffdshow also needed.
ffdshow - free -codec for playing videos
quicktime - free
daemon tools -free- For mounting ISOs

FUTURE UPGRADES:

HTPC Case
5.25 Bay Display

MONEY SAVED:

$119.88 - cost of dvr through cable company, plus you have to have digital cable (more money)
$167.70 - Tivo for a year

This computer was used by my wife until I got her a laptop for Christmas. Putting it together was pretty easy, just install the tv card and plug up the IR receiver. I tried several software programs for recording. There are a couple free ones. They are usually a little more complicated to setup. I was using Yahoo Go! TV. It is a free beta product and didn't have many options.

Now I am using Beyond TV, which is very simple to use and setup. The commercial smart skip feature is great. It doesn't catch them all the time, but does a pretty good job. I've read it's because the cable company tries to trick your DVR. Dual tuners is the best setup to have. Record 2 shows at once while watching another recorded show, or watch live tv while recording another show. I also have Beyond TV Link which is great for watching recorded shows on another computer. I mostly use it to access the guide and schedule recordings.

I'm using Meedio 1.41 which has been free since Yahoo bought the code. It has unlimited possibilities for modifying to your needs. I'm using the Perception theme I created. I added the Beyond TV to the main menu. Meedio was bought out by Yahoo. I'm using fddshow for the codec for playing video files within Meedio. With fddshow you can adjust the size of the picture to be more exact. Before I used fddshow, my image would be stretched wider than it was suppose to be. I use the playmee plug-in with Daemon Tools for playing ISO DVD files.

I have 2 TV Internet programs that are cool. The first one is Veoh TV. It a program that plays videos from different sources, like youtube, myspace and others. You can also save your videos to view later. The other is Joost. Right now it's invite only. It's like have internet on the TV. It's got more actual tv shows than Veoh TV. I had to make a script to make a shortcut for Meedio to use the shortcut.

I love the Hauppauge 45 button remote that came with the tuner card. It's pretty easy to modify the Irremote.ini file to allow it to control other programs. I have got the remote to work with Meedio, Joost and Veoh TV. Over all I am satisfied with my HTPC.

Programs I have tried and my thoughts.
Media Portal - Free - This program was laggy on my computer. It has many options.
Got All Media - Free - Worked fine on my laptop for testing. Installed on computer and couldn't get it to work right.
Meedio - 1.41 - This is what I'm currently using for Media Center. It is no longer supported. It was bought by Yahoo. You can find fellow support at the MeediOS forum.
Beyond TV - Paid - Great program. This is what I'm currently using for DVR software.
Yahoo Go! TV - Free - Not bad for a free program. Limited options.

Plug-ins, Modules and theme used with Meedio (link to get modules)
meeMusic Jukebox - Nice music player module
meeBusy - displays loading image if busy
MovieNight - great movie module
Weathered - Nice weather module
playmee - for playing ISOs within Meedio (Daemon tools also needed)
allmovie synopsis - to retrieve synopsis
IMDBmee - to retrieve movie info
IMDBmee2 - to retrieve movie info within Meedio
SilenceMee - to resume music when closed or after watching video
Various Tools - just needed
MeedioHelper - helps with options
meefreespace - show hard drive space in pie graph
Perception Theme - created by me

Files used in Beyond TV
-widescreen icons link
-wallpaper from Meedio Perception theme
-Vista skin (found in Beyond TV forums) link

Useful Links
MeediOS
Meedio 1.41 Download
MeediOS Forum
Vision 2 Meedio Theme
Snapstream Beyond TV
Veoh TV
Joost
ffdshow
BYOPVR(Build Your Own PVR) Forum

If you have any further questions.....Feel free to ask.


Back of computer.


Closer look at the ports.


The new graphics card - ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT.


Fan added for hard drive cooling.


Full view.


My tv.


Beyond TV and TV Link on tv and laptop both on live tv.


Full view of laptop.


Beyond TV Link home page on laptop.


Beyond TV Link live tv on laptop.


Beyond TV Link recorded shows on laptop.


Meedio Media Center software Perception theme that I created.


Beyond TV with Vista skin and Meedio with Perception theme wallpaper


Guide View of Beyond TV, I need to update this one, the background matched the above picture now.


Veoh TV


Joost

New Setup - Meedio 1.41 with Perception theme and Skinned Beyond TV 4.7

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I've tried many "Tivo like" media center software, but I've never heard of Meedio. I just installed it, seems fairly stable.

I just got it installed and I'm impressed. It does remind me of the XBMC (Xbox media center) which is also great.

Lately I've been using XBMC to stream all my stuff to my computer, but this seems like a good alternative for someone that doesn't have an xbox and the know-how to softmod it.

Beyond-TV's software is also very good, but I don't like the price tag


Your youtube video's are down?

I'll post some pics of my current setup in the next few days when I get a chance.
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have u thought of using a ati 2x00 or 3 series for the hdmi port?
Nice little setup!
I think I will get another tuner card so I can record more then one show at a time. I have the Hauppauge HVR-1600 (I think) and if I'm recording a show I can't watch another show... which is really a bummer. Thanx for your thread here because it gave me some more ideas for my HTPC! +rep to you
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Your youtube video's are down?

I'll post some pics of my current setup in the next few days when I get a chance.
My Youtube videos should be working. They are working for me. Maybe Youtube was down for maintenance. I too use to use XBMC, then my xbox died and I had been wanting a htpc. I already had the computer. Meedio may be confusing at first to some. If I had a problem, I would just ask someone in the Meedios forums and the would help me out.

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Originally Posted by mz-n10 View Post
have u thought of using a ati 2x00 or 3 series for the hdmi port?
I don't even know what that is. Give me a link. I don't really need to use hdmi since I'm using vga. I'm running 1280x720 resolution.

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Originally Posted by beelzebub_75 View Post
Nice little setup!
I think I will get another tuner card so I can record more then one show at a time. I have the Hauppauge HVR-1600 (I think) and if I'm recording a show I can't watch another show... which is really a bummer. Thanx for your thread here because it gave me some more ideas for my HTPC! +rep to you

I started out with using just one tuner card and using the internal graphics. Then I was at the store and saw the ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT AGP on clearance for $50. It is sweet being able to watch one and record one. You can also record 2 at once while watching a pre-recorded. And with Beyond TV, if there are more than 2 shows going to record at one time, it will re-schedule one for later if there is a later showing.
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I'm really impressed with the software part of this thread.
Can't seem to find a working link for Meedios though.
Am I blind as a bat or just plain stupid?

They're not necessarily mutually exclusive...

I KID; I KID!
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LOL, so point me to the link already


The link in the first post works. It's under "Usefule Links". Here it is again. www.meedios.com
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The link in the first post works. It's under "Usefule Links". Here it is again. www.meedios.com

That link is bad...
The original link in the OP works fine for me!
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That link is bad...
The original link in the OP works fine for me!
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Are you getting any HD signal? If so, vga negates the need for hdcp correct?

Quality of your tuner? (recommend it?)

Blu-ray or HDDVD add-ons planned?

Very nice bit of kit. Will be building one soon. Rep +
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Are you getting any HD signal? If so, vga negates the need for hdcp correct?

Quality of your tuner? (recommend it?)

Blu-ray or HDDVD add-ons planned?

Very nice bit of kit. Will be building one soon. Rep +
I'm not doing any hd with the tuners yet. I think I'm going to need more processing power for that.

Tuner quality is pretty good. It takes some tweaking. I do recommend the Hauppauge tuners. The one I have is for regular cable. There are different options. Dual tuners and ones that pick up HD over-the-air. I have the Hauppauge and ATI tuner. The ati one is built into the graphics card.

Right now I don't have a plan for Blu-ray or HDDVD. I'm still waiting on the prices to drop. I really don't like paying $30 for a DVD.
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Did you ever get to record 2 shows at once? Do you do that with the Beyond TV Link software?
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Did you ever get to record 2 shows at once? Do you do that with the Beyond TV Link software?

The Beyond TV link is just for watching TV through another computer. All you have to do is have 2 tuner cards and Beyond TV setup with the 2 cards to work. It automatically records 2 shows if the times are the same and yes, mine has did that. It works fine. I use Meedio for the front-end software, for doing everything else but the tv.
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I don't even know what that is. Give me a link. I don't really need to use hdmi since I'm using vga. I'm running 1280x720 resolution.

just for reference : ATI 2X00 series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125072

i neglected to read that you had 2 capture cards, but the 2x00 series or the 3 series is just used for their HDMI because these cards all have built in sound decoders and i believe hardware decoder for BR and HDDVD.

i love ur software list btw, i am going to have to try meedio, media portal seems laggy for me....
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just for reference : ATI 2X00 series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125072

i neglected to read that you had 2 capture cards, but the 2x00 series or the 3 series is just used for their HDMI because these cards all have built in sound decoders and i believe hardware decoder for BR and HDDVD.

i love ur software list btw, i am going to have to try meedio, media portal seems laggy for me....


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Features
Supports Avivo technology
Unique Screen-Cooling thermal design
HDMI and 5.1 surround audio(by optional adapter)

You have to by an adapter. I hate when cards do that.

My HTPC only has AGP. I wish it was PCI-Express. That will be a future upgrade.

Media Portal was always laggy for me too. I'm sure if I had a Dual Core htpc it wouldn't be a problem. I just like everything Meedio can do. The MovieNight module is awsome. I'm happy with mine for now.
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yea i just noticed that u need to buy an adapter with that card, i have a 2600xt which includes a HDMI connector.

I have a e2140 and 2gb of ram in my htpc and it still lags a bit.
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I have a e2140 and 2gb of ram in my htpc and it still lags a bit.
Hmmm. I always thought it was my computer holding it back. Guess it's just Media Portal. I'll stick with Meedio.
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Oh. I only have 1 tuner card on my HTPC. Do the cards have to be identical? Also, the Meedios link in the first post doesn't work anymore.
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