[ail45]

ok so i finally ordered my stuff for watercooling. I did go a little overboard i guess you can say, but gonna look and hopefully perform amazing.

ok so, these are the parts i finished ordering and gonna start with for now...

D-Tek Fuzion
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=182

Delrin DDC Pump
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=202

Black Ice Micro II
http://dangerden.com/store/product.p...&cat=87&page=1

Dual 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir w/ 2 UV Purple LEDs
http://dangerden.com/store/product.p...&cat=27&page=1

Exos 2
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=190

PrimoChill Ice - Purple
http://moddersmart.com/index.php?tar...oduct_id=30161

Purple Hose Clamps
http://moddersmart.com/index.php?tar...oduct_id=29817

3/8 - 5/8 Tubing
http://moddersmart.com/index.php?tar...product_id=157

Swiftech Smartcoils UV Blue
http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-cools...-625-blue.html

Swiftech MCW30 Chipset Waterblock
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcchco.html

Laing DDC-3.2 (18W)/Swiftech MCP355 Inline 12V DC Pump
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ladd1mcin12p.html

and i still need 2 get the w/b's for when i get the dual 8800gts' and ill prob get a n/b w/b also

so, in the end, this is how im gonna have it setup.

Exos2 -> Cpu -> NB -> Res -> Pump -> Rad -> 8800 1 -> 8800 2 -> repeat

Some of the stuff came in today, so ill post pics later since im at a friends house.

Tell me what you think.

 

[ginnz]

why the exos? build your own system, these things suck. all you need is a pump, rad waterblocks, and a res is optional, i prefer to use one, at the highest point in the system, to ease in filling, and bleeding..... but a t-line would suffice. and ditch the small diameter tubing, go with 1/2" stuff, its got better flow rates.

just my 2 cents.

 

[ail45]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginnz why the exos? build your own system, these things suck. all you need is a pump, rad waterblocks, and a res is optional, i prefer to use one, at the highest point in the system, to ease in filling, and bleeding..... but a t-line would suffice. and ditch the small diameter tubing, go with 1/2" stuff, its got better flow rates. just my 2 cents.

i dont know where you read that the exos suck. cuz every review i read about it, they all said the smae things. its an amazing system just expensive. which it is. and the main reason i decided to get it is because i would still like to be able to move my comp 4rm point a to point b without a hasle, which the exos is as long as the case so neatly sits ono top of the comp, doing its job and good on space. and i did get a pump, rad, and res also. becuase since im doing 4 w/b wanted to get everything to get cooled good, so i got a res after the 1st 2 blocks at the highest point of the system getting out air bubbles and etc, then dropping str8 down to a pump that pushes it to a dual 80mm rad to cool the liquid again before it goes threw the 2 8800gts', and as you can see. if i would of done something other than the exos i wouldnt be able to fit anything, or at least neatly.

and the 1/2 tubes r just 2 big imo, looks nasty. the 3/8 tubes are already bigger than i imagined, so glad i didnt get the 1/2. plus heard they the same **** really. the 1/2's flow faster, but by doing that they dont get enough contact since they fly by so fast. and the 3/8s dont flow as fast but get more contact, so taking away a nice amount of heat. so performance wise they around the same. at least thats what i have read, and makes sence to me.

 

[ira-k]

You do know that DDC pump top is just the top right? You have to buy the pump extra...Or are you going to use it in the Exos thing...One thing about flow the more you have the more turbulence you get and better cooling...Slower flow doesn't give it more time to absorb heat....You can get good temp's with smaller ID tube but it still has to have good flow or it will cool worse....

I'm with the other guy just make you own loop it will be cheaper nad better...If you already have it go with it I guess....

 

[born2killU]

why did you buy an exos ?

where did you read that it was good

 

[ail45]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ira-k You do know that DDC pump top is just the top right? You have to buy the pump extra...Or are you going to use it in the Exos thing...One thing about flow the more you have the more turbulence you get and better cooling...Slower flow doesn't give it more time to absorb heat....You can get good temp's with smaller ID tube but it still has to have good flow or it will cool worse.... I'm with the other guy just make you own loop it will be cheaper nad better...If you already have it go with it I guess....

yea i know its only the top, i actually 4got to order the DDC so thx 4 reminding me lol and heres a few sites that reviewed the exos2

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?...hlbnRodXNpYXN0

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/205/7/

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=8

http://gruntville.com/reviews/wc/koo...os_2/page8.php

and if u noticed i said that all mentioned above was already purchased. and yea i said im aware that making it myself would prob come out a little cheaper, but like i mentioned i really didnt want to have a mess of tubes everywhere and i wanted it to look nice and neat. well w.e i guess we will see how it performs when i set it up. i think its gonna run very good.

edit: ok well im also getting this on monday when i go 2 the bank.

Swiftech MCW30 Chipset Waterblock
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcchco.html

Laing DDC-3.2 (18W)/Swiftech MCP355 Inline 12V DC Pump
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ladd1mcin12p.html

 

[ira-k]

I don't know if you have already read this stuff....Its good for a new WC'er.....

...Assembling your Custom Watercooling Setup

...Bleeding my WC setup...

...Water Cooling in English

...D-Tek Fuzion install tip! (Or Why You Should Clean New Blocks)

...Part 1-Temp's With and With-Out Shrouds

...How To: Build A Performance Shroud

...Cooling - An In-Depth Look

...PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part I

 

[ail45]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ira-k I don't know if you have already read this stuff....Its good for a new WC'er..... ...Assembling your Custom Watercooling Setup ...Bleeding my WC setup... ...Water Cooling in English ...D-Tek Fuzion install tip! (Or Why You Should Clean New Blocks) ...Part 1-Temp's With and With-Out Shrouds ...How To: Build A Performance Shroud ...Cooling - An In-Depth Look ...PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part I

ive seen you post something like this b4, but +rep anyways for the help.

 

[Martinm210]

I've never seen anyone mix an Exos pump with a DDC or D5, but I suppose it should work ok, just keep an eye on the internal fitting of the Exos...not sure they are setup to handle the extra pumping pressure that DDC is going to put out. From what little I understand of the Exxos they are more of a low flow type setup, so you're sort of mixing aftermarket high pressure high flow stuff with lower flow.

I'd also advise against anything but GPU only water blocks like the MCW60. You're going to be pushing radiator capacity and I'd avoid adding in anymore heat that you abosuletly need to. Make sure you put some good fans on that microres once you get the 8800's in the loop.

Post some pics when you start putting it together

 

[ail45]

ok so i finally decided im gonna do 2 loops...

Exos2 -> Cpu -> NB

and

Res -> Pump -> Rad -> 8800GTS

and so far got everything except the 8800gts and its water block

. but i installed the Exos2 -> Cpu -> NB and came out very sexy. not bad 4 my 1st time i would say. only prob i ran into was i 4got to put on the fuzion's holding plate so had 2 take apart after leak test n i made a mess

well im uploading all the pics ive taken in photobucket atm, so will post in a couple min.

also, thx martin 4 the help in the pm's. rep +

 

[ail45]

k here we go...

all the stuff...

changed the top 4 the pump...

put on the back 80mm fans on the radiator...

Leak test pics... yea i got balls. didnt even bother taking **** out.

Loop 1 Finished Pics..

only thing i thought that sucked. the liquid came out like a very light baby purple in the tubes, instead of like the dark purple u see in the bottles. ill prob just get sum more of the dye and thats it. well tell me what you think.

 

[ail45]

oh yea temp difference..
in the bios b4 read...
cpu ~ 35 C
mb ~ 46 C

now it reads..
cpu ~ 23 C
mb ~37 C

so not bad, expecially the cpu, since my room is constantly around 30 C, its hot in miami...
also the mb could be alot colder, i only w/c my north bridge, so if i do the south also, could prob get it around 27?

 

[ira-k]

Looks good...Just a couple of things, I would move the CPU inlet tube behind the out-let going to the NB so they are not touching...It will heat up your inlet cooling water the way it is....Did you put that gel stuff on the bottom of your pump? If you did I would for sure take it off, the bottom of those pumps get pretty hot...I use the stock foam pad that comes with them and cut out the center section all the way across so the center of the pump is open to the air...I've even gone so far as to put little 40x10mm Sunon fans blowing under them before..I don't now but I make sure to keep it open under them with some air flow...

 

[marcus000]

Yeh the Gel pads are fine underneath the DDC 12W version but its a known fact that the DDC 18W version will overheat with one of those under it!

I was gonna say the same thing as Ira-K regarding your inlet tube on the Fuzion but only for asthetic reasons...

 

[ginnz]

so you went and got that coolance thing.....?

 

[ail45]

i had said that i had ordered ALL of that, i didnt say i was going to, so i ordered it b4 anyone on here gave it a negative review for no reason, cuz it works great. and damn sux so i bought those gel pads 4 no reason =/ eh w.e 5 dollars gone. ill find out what ima end up doing with the pump cuz gonna b a little while b4 i can afford the 8800 anyways. and really the tubes arent touching, they are very close though. plus i got 3/8 - 5/8 tubing so it has an extra 1/8 in diameter. but wow, didnt think that would matter, ill find out a way to re route it to make it look nice and get a decent distance. but can u show me a test of how that affected it. thats interesting, so the heat transfers even through the tube to air then back to the colder water?

 

[ira-k]

If they are not touching it wont warm the other one up....

 

[ail45]

oh ok thats good 2 know. but still, the heat transfers through the tubes? explain, i want to learn

 

[ginnz]

from my experience, if your tubing is touching here and there, it doesnt really make a difference in temps, at least anything that youll notice.....

ie. if you have a tube touching another somewhere in the system, and you make clearance for it, i highly doubt youll see a drop in temps at all, not even .1 degree difference, i know, because i tried it.

once the loop reaches a stable temp, all the water in the loop will be around the same temp, minus the water that enters the rad and the water that exits the rad, even there, theres not much of a difference. dont concern yourself with this theory too much.

 

[ail45]

oh ok thx 4 the info. n good i dont have to move anything. i really like how it looks