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You can get a far superior Corsair CX450 for only $10 more on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Non-Modular-CP-9020120-NA/dp/B01MTZ96RU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506458158&sr=1-1&keywords=CX450

While this is a low budget build its no reason to get such an awful PSU as the EVGA BT.
but think of all the taco bell op can buy with the money saved by going with a cheaper power supply

but yeah go buy this psu i guess
 
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but think of all the taco bell op can buy with the money saved by going with a cheaper power supply

but yeah go buy this psu i guess
What's the difference between the two? They look too similar on the top level (450 watt 80 bronze).
looks like shilka made some post a few years back about how cheap evga psus are garbage. you can read it here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b

in general, its probably worth spending a bit more to get a psu that isnt likely to break easily and fry the components in your pc or light your house on fire.
 
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Its simple really many of the cheaper EVGA units is made by a chinese OEM called HEC and they used the old outdated group regulation sceme
The new Corsair CX series unlike the old CX series uses DC-DC so they have superior voltage regulation and superior build quality as well as its CWT that makes the CX

HEC is not the worst OEM out there but they are not a great OEM either as the only truly good units they have ever made can be counted on one hand
I have seen their factory and jesus christ its a mess with the roof leaking and a huge hole in a wall from a machine they removed but never bothered to repair the wall after it was removed

Almost anything made by HEC is just NO!
The CX is just all around better a better quality unit and its only $10 more so it would be stupid not to spend that.
 
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+rep around again thanks.

I'd like to as again though:

The G4600 supports HEVC and VP9 right? Are these important for desktops?

If I use a GTX 1050 lying around, would the built in HEVC and VP9 feature of the G4600 go to waste?
 

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Also, I'm thinking of getting something like the T30 for $ 350

Intel Quad-Core Xeon E3-1225 v5 8M Cache,
8GB UDIMM RAM,
1TB HDD,
DVD+/-RW, HDMI,
290W PSU

Will the be much more powerful than the recommended Pentium G4600?
 

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Also, I'm thinking of getting something like the T30 for $ 350

Intel Quad-Core Xeon E3-1225 v5 8M Cache,
8GB UDIMM RAM,
1TB HDD,
DVD+/-RW, HDMI,
290W PSU

Will the be much more powerful than the recommended Pentium G4600?
The two aren't even in the same ball park. That Xeon has double the cores and more cache memory.

If you have a 1050 TI floating around, is there any reason that you need the dedicated graphics at all? You metioned VP9 encoding - are you doing 4k?
 

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The two aren't even in the same ball park. That Xeon has double the cores and more cache memory.

If you have a 1050 TI floating around, is there any reason that you need the dedicated graphics at all? You metioned VP9 encoding - are you doing 4k?
Thanks. So I guess no brainer in terms of CPU power. Goes to Xeon.

I was thinking of gifting a 1030/1050/Ti to the one buying the system but I'm not sure yet.

More on "decoding" I think. For the possibility of watching 4K.

I think the Xeon doesn't have HEVC and VP9 so does that mean 4K videos are gonna lag?

I was told the 1030 is the cheapest that has HEVC and VP9.

These things kinda sound new to me.

I think the G4600 has built in HEVC and VP9 so I don't have to gift a GT 1030 but it only has 2 cores but 4 threads.

I'm quite confused.
 

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Thanks. So I guess no brainer in terms of CPU power. Goes to Xeon.

I was thinking of gifting a 1030/1050/Ti to the one buying the system but I'm not sure yet.

More on "decoding" I think. For the possibility of watching 4K.

I think the Xeon doesn't have HEVC and VP9 so does that mean 4K videos are gonna lag?

I was told the 1030 is the cheapest that has HEVC and VP9.

These things kinda sound new to me.

I think the G4600 has built in HEVC and VP9 so I don't have to gift a GT 1030 but it only has 2 cores but 4 threads.

I'm quite confused.
The xeon is an older chip with 4 cores and 8 threads. Except in single threaded performance, it will beat the G4600. The G4600 is much newer and has faster single threaded performance, but the difference between a dual core and a quad core for multitasking is significant.

The xeon does not have a GPU new enough to do 4k decoding, so there is a good chance it may lag during 4k playback. I haven't tried it, but I've seen forum posts where even all 4 cores on a chip like the Xeon can't handle 4k decoding in software.
 

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The xeon is an older chip with 4 cores and 8 threads. Except in single threaded performance, it will beat the G4600. The G4600 is much newer and has faster single threaded performance, but the difference between a dual core and a quad core for multitasking is significant.

The xeon does not have a GPU new enough to do 4k decoding, so there is a good chance it may lag during 4k playback. I haven't tried it, but I've seen forum posts where even all 4 cores on a chip like the Xeon can't handle 4k decoding in software.
Thanks.

Do you think it would be better to wait for the i3 coffee lake? Will that beat this Xenon?

Do you also think I'd be able to make an i3 Coffee Lake build with just $ 350?
 

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Thanks.

Do you think it would be better to wait for the i3 coffee lake? Will that beat this Xenon?

Do you also think I'd be able to make an i3 Coffee Lake build with just $ 350?
Not likely that you'll be able to make an i3 build for the same cost, especially given that the i3 will be new. That said the CL i3 chips are going to be quads IIRC so they should be able to beat the Xeon (and they better, that Xeon is from 2012).

The Pentium specified earlier in this thread may do what you want right now for a price that you can afford. If all this machine will be used for is basic office/productivity with some video playback it's a fine chip. At work, I do SQL and java programming on a mobile i3 (it's equivalent to the pentium with 2c/4t but at a much lower clock speed). My IT department is way too cheap, but it's surprising what these chips will do.

The pentium would make a good general purpose computer or a fantastic home theater machine (IGPU has good playback support). To get into the realm of greatness you could relax your budget a bit and spend an extra 75-100 for a used 7600k and you'd have an amazing machine on your hands that can tackle heavy workloads.
 

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Thanks.

Do you think it would be better to wait for the i3 coffee lake? Will that beat this Xenon?

Do you also think I'd be able to make an i3 Coffee Lake build with just $ 350?
I definitely think its possible, and personally its what I would go for. The part list below should be a fairly decent price analog for coffee lake. The real X factor for the coffee lake cost is the motherboard. We already know the CPU is going to cost a hair less than 120 bucks, but the motherboards are probably going to be a little bit more expensive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2XpCy
 

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The xeon is an older chip with 4 cores and 8 threads. Except in single threaded performance, it will beat the G4600. The G4600 is much newer and has faster single threaded performance, but the difference between a dual core and a quad core for multitasking is significant.

The xeon does not have a GPU new enough to do 4k decoding, so there is a good chance it may lag during 4k playback. I haven't tried it, but I've seen forum posts where even all 4 cores on a chip like the Xeon can't handle 4k decoding in software.
Hmm

https://ark.intel.com/products/88168/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1225-v5-8M-Cache-3_30-GHz

Isn't this Xeon 4C/4T? Or is Intel mixing up their product pages?

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Not likely that you'll be able to make an i3 build for the same cost, especially given that the i3 will be new. That said the CL i3 chips are going to be quads IIRC so they should be able to beat the Xeon (and they better, that Xeon is from 2012).

The Pentium specified earlier in this thread may do what you want right now for a price that you can afford. If all this machine will be used for is basic office/productivity with some video playback it's a fine chip. At work, I do SQL and java programming on a mobile i3 (it's equivalent to the pentium with 2c/4t but at a much lower clock speed). My IT department is way too cheap, but it's surprising what these chips will do.

The pentium would make a good general purpose computer or a fantastic home theater machine (IGPU has good playback support). To get into the realm of greatness you could relax your budget a bit and spend an extra 75-100 for a used 7600k and you'd have an amazing machine on your hands that can tackle heavy workloads.
https://ark.intel.com/products/88168/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1225-v5-8M-Cache-3_30-GHz

Is intel lying about their chip launch dates? It says there Q4 2015.

There was also a video review on the net that said it's roughly the same as the i5 6600.

I'm confused.
 
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