[gerardfraser]

What do you actually want to do play PC games or production work.


SIMPLE BIOS SETTINGS anyone can try in a couple clicks in BIOS
Set XMP for Ram
Set + Offset mode sign
CPU Core Voltage Offset (0.050mV)This adds CPU voltage for stability and heat control. Recommend testing your CPU with values you want to use to hit high CPU Clocks and keep heat under control with stability.
Set performance core ratio by core usage to achieve 6100 Mhz P -core single on light loads 5600 Mhz P-core all core on heavy work loads
1-Core Ratio Limit - 61
2-Core Ratio Limit - 61
3-Core Ratio Limit - 60
4-Core Ratio Limit - 59
5-Core Ratio Limit - 58
6-Core Ratio Limit - 57
7-Core Ratio Limit - 56
8-Core Ratio Limit - 56
4400 Mhz E-core Sync all cores
4800 Mhz Ring

Temp 90°C
Single-2379
Multi- 32611


Reasonable PC Gaming clocks for less heat

SIMPLE BIOS SETTINGS anyone can try in a couple clicks in BIOS
Set XMP for Ram
Set - Offset mode sign
CPU Core Voltage Offset (0.050mV)This reduces CPU voltage for heat control. Recommend testing your CPU with values you want to use for all core CPU Clocks and keep heat under control with stability.

Set performance core ratio by core usage to achieve 5500Mhz P -core all core on heavy work loads,PC Gaming
1-Core Ratio Limit - 55
2-Core Ratio Limit - 55
3-Core Ratio Limit - 55
4-Core Ratio Limit - 55
5-Core Ratio Limit - 55
6-Core Ratio Limit - 55
7-Core Ratio Limit - 55
8-Core Ratio Limit - 55
4400 Mhz E-core Sync all cores
4800 Mhz Ring

 

[gerardfraser]

If you are just PC gaming with 3090Ti I am going to assume you play 4K. No FPS difference really from 5000Mhz to 6000Mhz

Here is the easiest way for you to do overclock.


Download BIOS F3g and use #6
Z790 AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

1. Checksum : A518
2. Improve the linkage between Resizable and 4G above
3. Fine-tune CPU Vcore/Temperature behavior
4. Add DDR High Bandwidth and Low latency option
5. Add CPU Biscuits feature
6. Add "Instant 6GHz" profile in CPU upgrade option (supports i9-13900K/KF and i7-13700K/KF)

How to use #6 Video

 

[gerardfraser]

Still 1440P CPU Clock is not a big deal in PC Gaming. The real only time where CPU clocks matter in PC Gaming is on low settings 720p/1080p and Ram will also come in to play at those settings.
If you are concerned about CPU voltage and temperatures and only PC Game.Set the motherboard to 125W and your done with low voltages and temperatures.
Or use the automatic overclocking software supplied by the newest BIOs and see how it goes.

EDIT:Test power limits to get what you want to achieve.You can check the limits with HWINFO64
PL1 Power Limit-125
PL2 Power Limit-225

 

[gerardfraser]

what settings for voltage ? adative or override ? n llc setting i have aorus board

You do not need to do anything.Auto settings.Just change these numbers until you get what you want.I gave you around 4 suggestions so far,up to you to try one,I have no clue what you want.
PL1 Power Limit-125
PL2 Power Limit-225

 

[gerardfraser]

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Thank u very much n sorry for the trouble got it in Bios all Pcores to 54 n Ecores to 44 ring at 48 Adative voltage at 1.24 n -0.040 offset ran cinebench r23 for 30mins highest temp i saw was 87c i think thats is good thank u very much for ur tips

I think it is good also,Good job.

 

[gerardfraser]

It is a good CPU for PC Gaming and the clocks you are running are fine . The Intel CPU's can run up to 115°C if set in BIOS ,so it is designed to run hot for lifetime of warranty,it is just your comfort level on what is too hot.I say enjoy the heck out of the CPU,you got three years warranty.

 

[gerardfraser]

What motherboard you are using I don’t have sync all core on my z690 aorus master

Not trying to be a nut here,people with Gigabyte motherboards seem to get messed up for some reason.I am no overclocker or anything but I am reasonable sure all motherboards have a description on what things do.

You 100% have and can sync all cores on z690 Aorus Master but that is not what I posted. I posted the settings using ASUS Motherboard. I posted Core Ratio limits,maybe what I posted is confusing AF I am really not sure if it is or not.

BIOS Setting sync cores on z690 Aorus Master would be this
Performance CPU Clock Ratio-
Item Description in BIOS
Adjusting CPU Clock Ratio will affect the CPU frequency,temperatures and voltage requirements

What I posted for simple overclock and I think this is what your saying you do not have On Gigabyte z690 Aorus Master it would look like this

• Enter the Advanced Mode and stay in the Tweaker menu
• Set Enhanced Multi-Core Performance to Disabled
• Enter the Advanced CPU Settings submenu
  • Set Active Turbo Ratios to Manual-set whatever numbers you want
    • Set Turbo Ratio (1 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (2 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (3 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (4 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (5 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (6 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (7 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (8 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (1 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (2 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (3 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (4 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (5 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (6 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (7 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (8 E-Core Active) to 44

So if this is not what you ment,let me know I will try to help some more.I live in Kitchener ,if your close you can bring you PC over and I can try to help with your setting

 

[gerardfraser]

add me to discord if you can QuickPwn#0307 thanks in advanced

Sorry man not using discord
Your motherboard has a
PC Gaming mode
A performance mode
and last two BIOS has Add "Instant 6GHz" profile in CPU upgrade option (supports i9-13900K/KF and i7-13700K/KF)
any of these should be good enough on Gigabyte motherboard,you do not have to do anything just press a button

 

[gerardfraser]

ok even if i do that when i do a cinebench the score is dog **** i get like 26000k points and if i use the 6ghz i never get anything at all

OK what score would you think is acceptable in Cinebench.
Do you have a 360MM AIO that can handle at least 250Watts from the CPU.

If you do this is how to set your motherboard with Ring on Auto. Pick any XMP Profile 3 is the highest on your motherboard I think.

These settings with good cooling will get you 31000+ in Cinebench.

• Enter the Advanced Mode and stay in the Tweaker menu
• Set Enhanced Multi-Core Performance to Disabled
• Enter the Advanced CPU Settings submenu
  • Set Active Turbo Ratios to Manual-set whatever numbers you want
    • Set Turbo Ratio (1 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (2 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (3 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (4 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (5 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (6 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (7 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (8 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (1 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (2 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (3 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (4 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (5 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (6 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (7 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (8 E-Core Active) to 44

 

[gerardfraser]

do we keep c state enable or disable? or everything on auto n just a negetive offset in voltage ?

That is just a personal choice on if you want the CPU clocks to drop to like 800Mhz.It really does not matter unless you have crashing in lets say in idle or surfing the web,youtube.I am just showing what has worked for me on different motherboards,cpu's over the years.
What I showed was everything auto with negative offset for 5500Mhz and positive offset for higher boost clocks.Trying to keep it simple as possible.

 

[gerardfraser]

i try the 55 but i keep crashing on cinebenchr23 n if i get it to 54 n 44on ecores my temps reach 93c if i do a 30 mins stabilty test on r23 what i did was xmp1 n Enhanced Multi-Core Performance to Disabled n Set Active Turbo Ratios to Manual so pcores are at 54 n ecores at 44 can not get the right voltage or tweak to keep it cool when running a stability test that why i ask n i am on a AORUS 790 ELITE AX REV 1.0 so things look different from my 10900k msi board ialso try pl1 pl2 but then the cpu down clocks

Well 54/44 is still good and will make no difference from default clocks or running 60/44. You will get same FPS in PC Gaming at higher resolution with your RTX 4080. Your iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display Liquid CPU Cooler is better than mine MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 with your motherboard Z790 AORUS ELITE AX and 13700K your should be able to run that combination at 1.23v-1.25v under full cinebench load at under 90℃.

You have awesome rig and since it has been over a month that you made the thread then, you just got a normal 13700K and your 93℃ and 54/44 is 100% fine,there is no magic and you said you mostly PC Game then stop running Cinebench, your not missing out on anything. Hell I can run my 13700KF with 6200Mhz boost PC Gaming but I actually play with 5500Mhz all core 95% of the time.It really makes no difference in FPS.

Another thing you said you want to control temperatures so I suggest the power limit thing. It will 100% downclock if using these settings.If you tried them with Cinebench I be suprised if your CPU would run at 2000Mhz.If your PC Gaming at the CPU clocks mention,then these limits would be 100% fine and your CPU should never get hot or what you perceive as hot.
PL1 Power Limit-125
PL2 Power Limit-225

But to give you some inspiration to try some more.Big numbers for e-peen,not always better 😁
13700Kf 6200Mhz Boost PC Gaming

 

[gerardfraser]

13700KF Overclock 69℃ Cinebench Run With Simple Undervolt Plus DDR5 5600 Simple Overclock to 6400.
5400Mhz P-Core
4400Mhz E-Core Overclock
DDR5 Ram- CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 5600MHz C36 (CMK32GX5M2B5600C36)
CPU Cooler- MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2

 

[gerardfraser]

Thanks for the answer, but I have a gigabyte z790 aorus elite ax and I set the multiplier to 55, avx 0, v cor 1.3v, tvb disable, I run the fpu aida64 test, but the board stubbornly reduces it to 5.3, I don’t know what to enable or disable seems to have tried everything?

Update your BIOS and try instant 6Ghz if you have it on your motherboard and try that.
post #4 in this thread has and gigabyte z790 aorus elite update information I would assume gigabyte z790 aorus elite ax would have similar instant 6Ghz.
I am not sure why people with gigabyte motherboards are having problems,I would actually have to test one myself. If you tried everything ,then I would exchange the motherboard for a different brand if you can. I can make suggestions all day but like you said you tried them all.
(2) Need Help overclocking 13700k | Overclock.net

SkatterBencher Gigabyte motherboard 4 different overclocking ways to achieve overclock,I suggest read all of it.Good luck
SkatterBencher #49: Intel Core i9-13900K Overclocked to 6100MHz - SkatterBencher

 

[gerardfraser]

Sorry for the trouble, please tell me, if I reset the bios to the factory settings, I leave all the parameters in automatic mode, but I turn on the fixed vcore 1.3v and leave it like that, is this normal?

Yes I happen to do this all the time,it is a PC any setting can be normal.

 

[gerardfraser]

Если это работает для вас, то это потрясающе. Лично мне нравятся активные турбочетности
If it works for you,then that is awesome. I personally like Active Turbo Ratios

 

[gerardfraser]

Excuse me, but what does active tutbo ratio mean?

It is on your Motherboard.I like setting my CPU clocks like so

• Enter the Advanced Mode and stay in the Tweaker menu
• Set Enhanced Multi-Core Performance to Disabled
• Enter the Advanced CPU Settings submenu
  • Set Active Turbo Ratios to Manual-set whatever numbers you want
    • Set Turbo Ratio (1 P-Core Active) to 60
    • Set Turbo Ratio (2 P-Core Active) to 60
    • Set Turbo Ratio (3 P-Core Active) to 58
    • Set Turbo Ratio (4 P-Core Active) to 58
    • Set Turbo Ratio (5 P-Core Active) to 57
    • Set Turbo Ratio (6 P-Core Active) to 56
    • Set Turbo Ratio (7 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (8 P-Core Active) to 55
    • Set Turbo Ratio (1 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (2 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (3 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (4 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (5 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (6 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (7 E-Core Active) to 44
    • Set Turbo Ratio (8 E-Core Active) to 44

 

[gerardfraser]

is there some possibility I could get some help with my i7-13700k I’m looking for better gaming performance I’m running a
MSI tomahawk mag z790
Asus Tuf 4090 OC edition
And 32gb ram on XMP but I’m getting high temps which lead to thermal throttling I’m just looking for simple tweaks that will help my performance without disabling my E cores

Seems like you are ok now but I would not worry about losing a little performance in Cinebench.I can run my 13700KF at 6200Mhz and it makes no real difference in PC Gaming over lets say 5300Mhz at my PC Gaming resolution 4k with RTX 4090.

I did make a video with simple BIOS settings on an Asus motherboard but MSI board you can do the same.I prefer MSI over Asus for the straight forward BIOS settings.

BIOS Settings I used-Adjust your CPU voltage for your CPU for stability.

 

[gerardfraser]

So I went back into my bios, and I completely reset it back to default after I did that I made sure XMP was off, but after running a test on both CPu-Z and R23 none of my course we’re going past 5.3hz and I thought my CPU has a max core boost of 5.4hz? I made a thread, seeing if there’s anybody that could possibly help me separate from this, but I can post the pictures here as well.

Your CPU is working correctly if you have default BIOS settings.It will be something like this ,were 2 cores have the ability to boost to 5400Mhz under the proper conditions but normal will be 5300Mhz all core.Light loads boost to 5400Mhz and heavy loads 5300Mhz until BIOS conditions are not meet

Default P-cores for 13700K/KF in BIOS-This will run at 5300Mhz all core or until one of the conditions in the BIOS is not met then the CPU will downclock according to AVX/Temperature settings ETC.

• (1 P-Core Active) to 53
• (2 P-Core Active) to 53
• (3 P-Core Active) to 53
• (4 P-Core Active) to 53
• (5 P-Core Active) to 54
• (6 P-Core Active) to 54
• (7 P-Core Active) to 53
• (8 P-Core Active) to 53

I guess it would be proper to ask what exactly do you want,do you want all core over clock or higher clocks with higher CPU-z/Cinebench scores then see screenshot to set clocks.
BIOS setting for all core overclock and BIOS setting for higher benchmark numbers in CPU-Z/Cinebench.
Asus BIOS simple OC

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MSI BIOS with Per core overclock adaptive voltage + offset+ AVX offset with temperature
Set your CPU Core voltage higher than voltage curve for your 13700K/KF to work correct.This was 12900K which has higher voltage curve than your 13700K/KF but you would be find with the voltages in screens.Just run test and lower voltage until you get what you want.

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