[Warsow]

Hi. I use xai mouse with 4hd at this time, but 4hd is too much high friction. So it is difficult to make some small movements. What mouse pad is very very low friction so I can make some small movements?

Thanks alot!

Sorry for my English.

 

[boogdud]

Razer Xactmat or Vespula if you can find one are pretty hard with very little friction (on the speed sides).

 

[Je720]

I am not sure if you are asking for what you actually want. Higher friction makes it easier to make small movements.

Grained (small bumps) hard mats, like the 4hd, are fast because they have low friction.
Smooth hard mats are slower because they have higher friction.

It sounds like you are just after a smooth mat that will be slower so I recommend an Aluminium pad such as the Mad Catz G.L.I.D.E. 9 or the Razer Manticor. The Icemat is good too but it is quite small, the Razer Invicta (plastic) has a smooth size too.

My G.L.I.D.E. 9 review: http://www.overclock.net/products/mad-catz-g-l-i-d-e-9-aluminium-gaming-surface/reviews/5720

I hope it translates Ok.

 

[Warsow]

The problem I have is with respect to the resistance of the pad. It is like sticky you know? It takes alot of strength to get moving imo.

 

[Je720]

Oh that is weird. You might want something more like the Razer Scarab. It is grained a little bit like sand paper but nice and it is very fast, easy glide and takes very little effort. Or if you want to have a smoother fast mat you could have a look at the Artisan Shiden/Shidenkai which are Japanese flexible glass coated cloth pads but they are expensive.

 

[Sosweet]

I'm currently using the corsair mm400, its a lot smoother than my 9hd for both my sensei and abyssus. So most likely it'll be a lot smoother for whatever you're using now as well.

 

[DizZz]

i have a razer scarab and love it. it has barely any resistance and i have been using it for almost 2 years and it looks and feels basically brand new still. i highly recommend it.

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Scarab-Expert-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B004H1T2RA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361068297&sr=8-1

 

[Je720]

I forgot it was actually the Destructor 2 which I had, it is the same as the scarab as far as I know and is the most up-to-date version of the mat. I guess it depends if you like white or dark grey. I only returned mine because I found it too fast

 

[Warsow]

Can anyone please to compare the 4hd and scarab or destructor 2? Because I want to make sure that they are different in reality.
It is because I play with high accel and the 4hd prevents me from making small, slow movements, because the mouse is like stuck on it. Thank you for your advices.

I tried the icemat of my friend and it is too resistant. And I am using Puretrak HD mouse feet.

 

[Scharfschutzen]

The 4HD and Destructor 2 are almost identical, except the 4HD is slightly smoother (and feels more gritty) but also easier to stop.
I also lube the **** out of my pads with silicon spray or WD40 and it makes a huge difference. Gets on my hand but I don't give a ****.

The scarab has A LOT of resistance, I wouldn't even consider it in the same category as the above pads.

Now here are a couple of pads I HAVEN'T used, but from reading, may be a solution for you:

http://c4mousepads.com/C4Ngen.htm

http://www.amazon.com/SHIDEN-white-SAMURAI-gaming-mouse/dp/B005KMNXKM/

If you're not happy with glass though, I'm unsure what you're going to be happy with..

 

[skyn3t]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Je720

I am not sure if you are asking for what you actually want. Higher friction makes it easier to make small movements.

Grained (small bumps) hard mats, like the 4hd, are fast because they have low friction.
Smooth hard mats are slower because they have higher friction.

It sounds like you are just after a smooth mat that will be slower so I recommend an Aluminium pad such as the Mad Catz G.L.I.D.E. 9 or the Razer Manticor. The Icemat is good too but it is quite small, the Razer Invicta (plastic) has a smooth size too.

My G.L.I.D.E. 9 review: http://www.overclock.net/products/mad-catz-g-l-i-d-e-9-aluminium-gaming-surface/reviews/5720

I hope it translates Ok.

this is not good at all. I do have a aluminium mouse pad i was in love with it in the first 30 minutes but after some period time i start to hate it. If you like to keep you room nice and cold in the summer forget about it, the aluminium gets too cold and you hands start to freeze because the rest of your palm has to be in the aluminium pad and it does get too cold and start to be very uncomfortable. so any mouse pad made of aluminium tends to be very cold and very uncomfortable to use.

 

[Scharfschutzen]

What if I'm sweating balls cause I've got two ladies dancing on my desk?

I'm gonna wish I had that aluminum pad then.

 

[qcktthfm1]

I have both 4hd and scarab. Of course scarab is faster (less friction) than 4hd.
Recently I'm using invicta, which both sides are faster than scarab. Very close to aluminum pad sx, but without the cold in the winter.

Here is my close up vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZQZNLIkM1k&feature=share&list=UULs8C2VhPLCJmzBXY6PXwMg
Here is the takasta review
http://youtu.be/2FdGZrn9S2U

 

[raisinbun]

Aluminum and glass pads - they work best with well-made smooth teflon feet, or with the feet covered by teflon tapes. Without these, the feet and the pad scratch each other and the noise and roughness is quite unbearable for me.

I think the OP needs a mousepad with "low initial friction" and "smoothness" and "control".

4HD does offer very low friction while in move, but it is not the best for making small movements from static state where you can easily "jump" a short distance as you overcome the initial friction. Shiden is very smooth and has super low initial friction but has no control, it is not easy to make stable, controlled movement.

IMO smooth non-coated cloth pads like QcK, Goliathus Speed, Hien and Hayate (not necessarily low friction) are generally very good for this type of movements. Glass/aluminum pads coupled with nice teflon tape/feet also qualify for this I think.

 

[Notwist]

I just recently tried a Mionix Propus 380, holy crap that pad moved the mouse fast. It's like it was on an air hockey table.

 

[zzuper]

Get a razer destructor 2 and review it for us! : ]

 

[pruik6]

The destructor 2 is just the same as Razer scarab only different colour ,in my opinion better take scarab is cheaper because its longer on the market.

 

[ZareliMan]

The lowest friction pad I've tried is the Puretrack Deluxe which isn't strictly hard, it's bendable and has a plastic top.

I think a glass pad is your best choice anyway.

 

[Warsow]

It is easier to make some small movements on 4hd than icemat imo.

 

[Omega215d]

The Scarab is lighter in color unless you get the BF 3 branded version. The Destructor 2 is just plain black. In most places the Scarab and Destructor 2 are the same price.