[*mattrix*]

Hi Guys,

Im thinking of buying a new graphics card and i always had my sights set on the GTX470 but now that the 5 series cards have come out im wondering whether i should invest in one instead.

Does anyone know the ratio of money spent to actual gain in performance? Should i stick with the 470 for the money i will save or is going for a 570 really worth it?

Also, which is the best card out of the 5 series? I know that most people reckoned the 470 was the best all rounder in the 4 series cards, i will be overlocking probabaly anyway so if anyone can point me in the right direction here i would be greatful!

Cheers guys!

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

The 460 was the best of the 4xx series. I'd get a 560 as it performs the same but has less VRAM which won't matter pretty much, or get a 570, as it performs alot better than 470.

 

[*mattrix*]

Is there any particular company that i should go for? in the good old days i would have gone for XFX but they've sold their souls to ATI now. All the current companies i havnt really heard of apart from gigabyte and palit but i dont know what theyre like with graphics cards.

 

[Zmanster]

570 performs alot better than a 470...proof? Their both Fermis so I'm not sure how you concluded that a 570 is so much better. The 570 uses less power, so you will have less heat. Don't get me wrong, the 570 is a better card but not "alot better."

Both Palit and Gigabyte make good Nvidia cards....it's a matter of preference.

 

[Rocker delMaL]

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Originally Posted by *mattrix*;13108348
Is there any particular company that i should go for? in the good old days i would have gone for XFX but they've sold their souls to ATI now. All the current companies i havnt really heard of apart from gigabyte and palit but i dont know what theyre like with graphics cards.

As Zmanster said, its a matter of preference, I would personally go for EVGA or ASUS.

 

[Masked]

EVGA has the best current warranty available.

If I were you I'd do a 560TI...You're not losing much in terms of performance to the 570 and you're looking at a big improvement over the 470's.

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

Get two MSI TFIIIs for sure, they have better power phase (6+1), and a normal gtx570 kills itself, sometimes even at stock, due to ****ty VRMs. Plus great cooling, and I'm a EVGA guy myself.

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

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Originally Posted by Masked;13108429
EVGA has the best current warranty available.

If I were you I'd do a 560TI...You're not losing much in terms of performance to the 570 and you're looking at a big improvement over the 470's.

560 is a big jump over a 470? You sir are very very wrong.

 

[Zmanster]

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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup;13108434
560 is a big jump over a 470? You sir are very very wrong.

Agreed!! I don't know where these posters come up with comments like this. Both cards are Fermis. How are they SO MUCH better?!?! As I stated in my above post, the 5 series need less power thus producing less heat. This where they are better.

 

[FXTOi7]

i see a lotta trolls a commin'

Look into a 6950. i upgraded from TriFire 4870s to a 6950 and would never go back.
LOVE this thing.

 

[Masked]

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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup;13108434
560 is a big jump over a 470? You sir are very very wrong.

Suggest you check benches.

HW Compare

15 avg FPS improvement in ALL games/apps for 15% less power consumption.

Check your facts before posting next time, please.

 

[Zmanster]

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Originally Posted by Masked;13108511
Suggest you check benches.

HW Compare

15 avg FPS improvement in ALL games/apps for 15% less power consumption.

Check your facts before posting next time, please.

You may want to check your facts too. Instead of cherry picking a site that compares three games, maybe you should check out a more thorough review here:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti_Sonic/28.html

Overall, techpowerup's extensive review has an overall performance increase (at all resolutions...not just 1920X1200) of 8%. At 1920X1200, the review has the 560 ti beating the 470 by 12%. So, instead of picking and chosing your reviews, you may want to take a look at more than one. Additionally, I don't consider a 12% increase a BIG performance upgrade. If a 470 is averaging 60 fps, then a 560 ti will average 67 fps. Many people play at 1680X1050 and the gain is only 3% or 2 fps. Anyway, again, not large gains considering different resolutions.

 

[Masked]

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Originally Posted by Zmanster You may want to check your facts too. Instead of cherry picking a site that compares three games, maybe you should check out a more thorough review here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/P..._Sonic/28.html Overall, techpowerup's extensive review has an overall performance increase (at all resolutions...not just 1920X1200) of 8%. At 1920X1200, the review has the 560 ti beating the 470 by 12%. So, instead of picking and chosing your reviews, you may want to take a look at more than one. Additionally, I don't consider a 12% increase a BIG performance upgrade. If a 470 is averaging 60 fps, then a 560 ti will average 67 fps. Again, not large gains.

Didn't cherry pick, chose the simplest form and I'm absolutely correct.

The Palit has the lowest stock specs of the TI's and your source even concurs with a 12% (3% MOE) difference as opposed to the EVGA 560TI that my source tested.

The difference is 15% overall once doing the math and a consumption difference of over 20% in all tests INCLUDING Techpowerup.

Considering the above, that is a large gain...15% increase for 20% less power isn't a 'big deal' considering they're the same price? Sure fooled me.

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

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Originally Posted by Masked Suggest you check benches. HW Compare 15 avg FPS improvement in ALL games/apps for 15% less power consumption. Check your facts before posting next time, please.

15% isn't a big jump, and you can get a 470 for much cheaper at micro center out here they got them for 200 each.

 

[8-Ball]

A GTX 470 is plenty enough of power to run today's games on Max settings.

Wait until BF3 and see if there are any new card then.

 

[Masked]

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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup 15% isn't a big jump, and you can get a 470 for much cheaper at micro center out here they got them for 200 each.

#1 He's in Gravesend ~ There are only 2 of those in the world.

1st is in the UK.

2nd is in Brooklyn which is cross town AND 3/4 down the LIE to the closest Microcenter...In other words, it's a 2-3 hour commute cross town.

It would literally (with the price of gas) be easier for him to order it from Newegg which, has them at the same price.

So considering where he's living the 15% increase in performance, 20% decrease in consumed power is well worth paying the same price off the egg.

 

[RomeSC]

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Originally Posted by Zmanster Both Palit and Gigabyte make good Nvidia cards....it's a matter of preference.

If you are looking at 570, look for a non-reference pcb with better power phase system. Currently in the US the only ones available are the triple slot asus DCII or the MSI TFIII 570 afaik.

MSI TFII 560 is a good card too if you look to the 560's.

Also, as far as warrnty goes... it depends... if you keep your cards for 3+ years, yes EVGA is best, as long as you register it within 30 days. If you plan to have your card less than 2 years, EVGA is not as good, because the warranty is non-transferable, unlike MSI which has a warranty tied to the serial number so you can sell it with the remaining warranty.

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

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Originally Posted by Masked #1 He's in Gravesend ~ There are only 2 of those in the world. 1st is in the UK. 2nd is in Brooklyn which is cross town AND 3/4 down the LIE to the closest Microcenter...In other words, it's a 2-3 hour commute cross town. It would literally (with the price of gas) be easier for him to order it from Newegg which, has them at the same price. So considering where he's living the 15% increase in performance, 20% decrease in consumed power is well worth paying the same price off the egg.

Umm, there are more than 2. I live near one here in Denver Colorado =/ I was just shopping there about a week ago=/ and I order all my items from their site for 18 minute pickup.

 

[Masked]

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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup Umm, there are more than 2. I live near one here in Denver Colorado =/ I was just shopping there about a week ago=/ and I order all my items from their site for 18 minute pickup.

There's only 1 microcenter in our area...The other is in Yonkers, assuming he lives in the US...If he doesn't the point is moot.

They're the same exact price on the Egg or TD...Considering his location, if either, it's still easier to order it off the egg than huff it.

Unless he decides the performance/consumption isn't worth it and decides to "obtain" it VIA one of you...

I still think the 40$ premium he's going to pay is worth it.

15% more performance for 20% less the power is a big deal.

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

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Originally Posted by Masked There's only 1 microcenter in our area...The other is in Yonkers, assuming he lives in the US...If he doesn't the point is moot. They're the same exact price on the Egg or TD...Considering his location, if either, it's still easier to order it off the egg than huff it. Unless he decides the performance/consumption isn't worth it and decides to "obtain" it VIA one of you... I still think the 40$ premium he's going to pay is worth it. 15% more performance for 20% less the power is a big deal.

You keep saying our area, but you don't know where he lives, thus it would be YOUR area. There are many microcenters, and for higher res the 470 will help more, plus can be OC'd more, all for 50 dollars less, hell yeah! You are one of those guys who buys a 590 cause it's cool and new, even though it has no increase(and in your case, it performs worse than two 580s and kills itself).