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New at water cooling, advice needed

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Well, simply put I am new at water cooling, and the rig I plan on cooling is in my sig.
  • Intel Core i7 920
  • Asus P6T Deluxe Motherboard
  • 1 Sapphire 1 Visiontek 4870 512 MB
  • Antec 1200 Case
I want to setup a water cooling loop to cool my Core i7 920, both of my 4870 cards, and possibly my chipset. I am mostly concerned with the CPU. Even though both my CPU and Thermalright Ultra Extreme are lapped and setup with a push-pull setup I would still like some lower temps on my CPU and would not hurt to get my video cards a bit cooler.

My intention: To get a decent setup for not a ton of money (can always upgrade later when I get more knowledge). I understand I will need a Socket 1366 water block, was thinking of getting a Danger Den CPU Block.

My question is, without buying a complete kit what is everything I will need for this. I am putting this all in my Antec 1200 case. What size fittings, what size tubing? Single or multi rad? These details are my Grey area. Or would it be better to just get a kit and just use the Danger Den CPU Block?

Rep+ for anyone that helps, especially if you can possibly build me a kit linking what I will need.

Thanks in advance

Edit: Excluding the water block, price range around $200.00-$300.00 max.
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i personally love 3/8" ID for tubing.. most people here however use 7/16" ID tubing, but they use 1/2" barbs.. it should fit really tight. the reason i like 3/8" though is because the compression fittings for 3/8" are much cheaper than those for 7/16" or 1/2" tubing, but it flows just as well.

for CPU only, you could get a 240 rad, if you add your GPU's.. youd really need a 360mm rad to make watercooling worthwile. if you put your rad externally you could even get a 480mm rad... but those are a bit expensive as only the High end rads have 480 versions available. (Feser XChanger and Black Ice GTX, there are more budget conscious options, but those are hard to find... like the magicool 480-long. they have a square 480 too which is easier to find but often harder to use due to its shape.)

At petrastechshop.com you should find all that you need for a decent price... sidewindercomputers is great too.
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Originally Posted by ChielScape View Post
i like 3/8" though is because the compression fittings for 3/8" are much cheaper than those for 7/16" or 1/2" tubing, but it flows just as well.
Ahh..., I ain't tryin' to highjack this thread in anyway, shape or form .
I'd just like to say "Thanks Chiel " for the above profound information (I've read it elsewhere also) While my homemade external WC'ers are not exactly going to win any "most acetic pleasing awards"
. The truth is that, more important to me than how they looked (within reason), was if they they were efficient and did the job of easily setting them in my window sill. (and it was, plus I ain't takin' either boxen on any extended trips

I looked at them kinda' like a race car, nobody gives a flying rat turd what it looks like (within reason) , as long as it's the fastest car in the race.

ATM I'm adding another container and some "bling bling" so anyone lookin' at them won't turn into stone
I've read where the QD's (of any freakin' size) can cause massive restrictions, with that profound info, I'm gonna' ditch my Koolance QD's for compression type fittings and a dummy plug (and maybe a life preserver)

DCing for the CURE
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An easy way to watercool on a budget is to watch the for sale section. There are nearly complete setups for sale there for about 30% less than brand new. I'm personally selling a 4870 block, and I know their is another guy selling one too
Just keep a sharp eye out.
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So far, since it is my first time and upon a lot of consideration I think I am going to go with a kit for my first time. My thoughts are I can always take the parts of the kit and upgrade them to suit my needs, such as the radiator.

I am currently looking at the kits from Swiftech, Thermaltake, and Zalman. I may actually look into the Thermaltake and upgrade the radiator to a 240 MM unit right off the bat, as I heard they are decent at a price and you can always upgrade things if needed. I am pretty sure I will go with my own tubing and liquid though.

I already have a 1366 socket water block for my CPU, and good idea Tofunater about looking for deals on water cooling kits, something I was basically overlooking.

I thank both you and ChielScape for the help, and Jws2346 for hijacking my thread (lol just kidding
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I've heard pretty good things about this kit,
Here's a link to the P6T Chipset waterblock.

Although I would strongly recommend going for a custom build.
My first two WC sets were prebuilt and when I look back I should have changed my mind
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Lol i bought the swiftech h20-220......that lasted for four days before i upgraded.
What went wrong with it?
I personally haven't used it, just heard good things.
I would recommend what my setup is going to be:

Swiftech MCR320 (will fit in your antec 1200 no problem)
MCP655 Pump
1/2" Fittings (most people like Danger Den "Fatboy" fittings)
7/16" MasterKleer Tubing
Swiftech MCRes-Micro v2

and that's basically it, all you need now is distilled water, PT nuke (a biocide) and then of course some UV dye.

Should run you any where from ~200-300USD depending on where you shop
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ricsim, you can try out an Apogee GTZ for waterblock, Swiftech MCRES as your resevoir, GTX360 as your radiator, D5 Vario Pump as your pump, and 6x of these Yate Loon Fans (3 for push, 3 for pull on your rad). Total is: approximately $331.20.

This is a very good watercooling system. The GTZ waterblock is one of the best on the market and the GTX360 rad is one of the best. I have a GTX480 and it's absolutely amazing. The only reason why I didn't recommend you the GTX480 is it probably won't fit inside your case and/or it's too big, because trust me, it's huge.

For coolant, you can use regular coolant, or make your own, using distilled water and PT nuke
and some dye if you want. I personally wouldn't use it because it might build up on your waterblock.

Tubing I would recommend are some Primochills, which you can get form DangerDen, or some Tygon tubing. Additionally, there is another bracket that you will need for your Apogee GTZ in order for it to work with your Core i7, but I can't seem to find it. It might be on frozenCPU.com somewhere.

Another thing: NEVER use kits. You can get much better deals and better temperatures by using your own liquid cooling system using different parts.
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start with these and upgrade as you go.

d-tek fusion v2.
feser 360 rad
swifttech res v2
7/16 id - 1/2 od
zip tie
6 yates loon fan for rad
anti kink coils for tight turns.
D5 laing/mcp655 pump.
coolant = red for ati/green fo nvidia

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To the OP, just in case you were thinking about the Swiftech H20-220 kit, there's a OCN member selling his for dirt cheap.

Thank you all, looking at the various options.

Illusion of Progress I sent him a PM lets see what happens. I appreciate that as well, you people are awesome

I changed my mind for now, I want to just cool my Core i7 better as my case takes good care of the rest, and my video cards are not running that hot. I was even looking into things like the Coolit Domino but think it would be a waste as I am sure my TRUE with push-pull and lapped base would rival it.

I appreciate all the great help and advice, I would probably not get a pre made kit because you can get your own stuff for about the same price and sure it would work better.
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Well, here is what I have coming to my house so far
  • Swiftech H20 220 Compact purchased from Mothow (reservoir, pump, radiator, external mount, additional radiator, fans)
  • 5 feet of 3/8" tubing (Primochill Pro LRT Tubing)
  • Danger Den Core i7/1366 Waterblock with 3/8" barbs
  • Clamps
  • Feser Blue UV Reactive Liquid
What I am going to try is with the Swiftech unit I purchased the pump and CPU block are one unit, but it only works with the LGA 775 and not Core i7.

Next week when I have more money I will be upgrading the kit with a Thermaltake Aqua Bay M5 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/55...tl=g30c321s823 and with that I should be in even better shape.

I plan to set it up:
  1. the output of the reservoir will be fed into the input of the pump
  2. the output of the pump will be fed into the input of the CPU water block
  3. the output of the CPU water block will be fed into the input of the radiator
  4. the output of the radiator will be fed into the input of the reservoir
I cannot see why I cannot use the Swiftech cpu/pump combo as a pump only though. Just have to figure out a good way for it to be mounted temporarily. At least until I can add that Thermaltake kit to it. I will be adding my Chipset and both 4870 video cards to the loop later. By then I am hoping to have been able to piece together my whole kit, or at least use the Thermaltake as the foundation.

The total cost of everything: $150.00

So My adventure into water cooling has begun. Thank you again for all the advice and will keep everyone posted on how it turns out, also I will post some pics.

Any advice on how I can work the air out of the system first before use?
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The pictures I promised of my new water cooling system installed in my Antec 1200.

Thermaltake P500 Pump (for now)
Swiftech MCR-220 240 MM Radiator with Rad Box
XSPC Delta V3 CPU Water Block with Core i7 Plate
1/8" Primochill Tubing
2 Scythe Ultra Kaze Low speeds for pull
Worm Drive clamps
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