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I dont really have a set budget but i would like to spend around 500 give or take some....idc what cpu i just havent ever had a intel so.....but pretty much im open for anything...it will be used as a gaming computer...not heavy gaming but i want it to play most to all games....i honestly would like a good duo or maybe even a cheap quad which ever would be best

and i am starting from scratch no keyboard, monitor, or mouse

no nothing
 

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Here is what I threw together quickly. I'm sure someone can suggest better components for certain things but I think it is a good starting point:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103687
MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130250
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231274
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371004
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161338

That puts you at $416.95. I'm not sure how much a monitor and case will run you, but I'd guess another $150 should cover both of those if you find good deals. A mouse and keyboard can be found for very cheap, you can always upgrade those later.

Hopefully someone can take my input and improve or put something better together. Also, are you open to buying used parts from the marketplace here? Great deals come along quite often.

edit: The build above me is a great system. A little higher than you were planning and you'd still need a monitor but that would be a nice step up from the one I put together, if you don't mind the bump up in price.
 

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I am open to used parts, yes but i like to stay away from them if possible...and is i right that the higher the ghz the faster it will be...and thanks both of you for your help so far
Um, i am a complete noob to buildin a computer so i mean does everything i need come with the stuff i buy (wires and so forth)

if any of you have heard of the game Nitto Legends 1320 thats is the game i would like to run
but i also play others, MW2 and halo
 

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an athlon x2 would not be a very good choice for gaming simply because it would bottleneck your gpu like crazy. my buddy had an equivalent intel dual core and it was bottleneck central but that HIS ati card would be i good choice (i think lol) im not much for ati but when it comes to budget builds amd and ati are the best anyways for $20 dont cheap out that bad on the cpu you will regret it
 

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Yeah, it should come with all the parts you'll need. There are some decent guides that members have made here on OCN about the steps to building the PC. I'm sure someone will link them and if not, I'll go and find them.
If you see a part that says OEM by it, then you might need extra parts.

Clock speed (Ghz measurement) is not a direct measure of performance. You can only compare that number between processors of the same architecture. For example, a Phenom II x2 at 2.5 GHz is slower than a Phenom II x2 at 3.0 GHz. But a Phenom II x2 at 2.5 GHz might be faster than an Athlon II x2 at 3.0 GHz. It can be confusing, but it is like comparing different car engines. If one engine has 200 horsepower in a small car and a different engine with 200 hp is in a large semi truck, the top speed probably won't be the same.

Oh, and I forgot to add a copy of Windows to the list.
That will add a bit more to the price.
 

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ddreder i like your build and in that build could i change the cpu to a quad core amd later on??

and which OS should i go with...and can i just buy that at a local walmart or best buy
 

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ddreder i like your build and in that build could i change the cpu to a quad core amd later on??

and which OS should i go with...and can i just buy that at a local walmart or best buy
yes with the am3 socket you can upgrade to a quad core or a six core at any time and as for an OS if you have to buy one.. lol get windows 7

your probly gonna wanna get home edition just because of price and if you plan to add ram later then get 64bit if not then 32bit should save you a couple headaches
 

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Honestly im not picky with what i get i just want whats best
so you say windows 7
do they have different kinds of 7??
 

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Honestly im not picky with what i get i just want whats best
so you say windows 7
do they have different kinds of 7??
lol yea theres home premium, professional. and ultimate. (idk if there are any others) and there all basically the same thing its just pro and ultimate cost more
 

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so there is no performance advantage to getting pro or ultimate???
and when i get my stuff and start the build the piece should just fall into the case and connect what needs to be connected?
 

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so there is no performance advantage to getting pro or ultimate???
and when i get my stuff and start the build the piece should just fall into the case and connect what needs to be connected?
i dont think theres any performance advantage the others just come with more cool little apps like xp mode

as for building the pc its all kinda simple lol i know i was really intimidated when all my stuff came in the mail but everything really just goes together easy the thing i was mostly scared of was putting thermal compound on the heatsink.. well intel had pre applied compound on theres so i didnt have to worry lol but with the instructions that come with each part its fairly simple

OH YEAH! i forgot to add a HDD to that build
i suggest a western digital cavier black either a 640gb or 1tb its really up to what you wanna pay
 

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so i just got a new job and i am definetly going to build me my first computer...i know everyone has told me that the setup ddreder posted was good can anyone up grade me a lil bit...not a huge money jump but maybe 100 or so...i would really like to go quad
 

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so i just got a new job and i am definetly going to build me my first computer...i know everyone has told me that the setup ddreder posted was good can anyone up grade me a lil bit...not a huge money jump but maybe 100 or so...i would really like to go quad
lol well for $100 more all you need to do is trade that dual core for a quad

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-727-_-Product
here is a great quad that will drop right in that setup i put together
 

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If you are going for a quad right off the bat, you might be better off going with an i5 Intel build. Something of that performance would last you quite a while. To me, the updatability is less of a factor when you start from that high of a point.
yea the i5 is a beast i love mine. it would probably be about $150 more if you went intel (this is upgrading my first build for you) and $100 more with the amd quad so its really up to what you wanna pay but that i5 would last you a good 2-3 years which is pretty sweet
 

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This is probably over the budget but would probably play any game at decent settings today, and will continue to do so just fine for years with a few upgrades....

Here's an example of taking advantage of combo deals on newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...524.13-131-637
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.499540
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.492764
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.493007
(X2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835146002
(X1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835146001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136177

~$800
If you send in for the MIRs it's $740.

Plan on another $150-200 for a decent keyboard/mouse/monitor.

That includes Windows 7, a killer power supply and cooling ability. It's fairly future proof as you can slap a nice quad or better core in it in a few years when more games start to use more cores, and when the video performance starts needing more help, just slap another 460 next to the one in there and double the video performance.

The idea here was not to show what you should buy (though this would work well), more to show how to take advantage of combo deals. The same build shown could be done with different parts that don't take advantage of combo specials and cost $85 more. It's also very possible to do a build around a GTX460 for around $600, which is really the card "to shoot for" if at all possible.

Rules of thumb for the price point and application you are going for:

Phenom II X2 or Athlon II X3 processor (doesn't matter)
500W or better PSU made from reputable source. (do the homework on this one, it's important) (check out Rosewill Green PSU as a budget option)
A case that's easy to work with, has looks that you appreciate, and has proper ventilation. Bottom mount PSUs are often preferred but not necessary. Plan on an extra $20-50 in fans to fill out a nice case and keep things running cool in the long term.
GTS450 or ATI5770 or better video board (GTX460 preferred)
2x2GB kit for RAM. Anything will do, but tighter timings, higher frequencies, and lower voltage requirements are all considerations. $90 will do the trick here.
Samsung Spinpoint F3 drives and WD Caviar Blacks are the bandwagon drives right now for good reason.

Best of luck on the build!
Eric
 

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Includes case and monitor... you can pick out any keyboard and Mouse

Combo deals will make the build cheaper, and posibly substituting for cheaper components... but I have great experiences with the CPU, MOBO and PS I have listed.

In my opinion... You should at least go with 4 cores, since most new games are using more than one core of processing power, and more will in the future, If you do go 2core, get a cheap one until you save up for a better CPU. x2 -> x4 Is a pretty big speed difference, especially with more windows open.

OOOPS... I didnt pick a HD or optical drive... those can be added cheap, and as stated for HDD, Spinpoint drives are great $/GB

EDIT: Please note that the MIR are not included in the $650 pricetag.. so it should be a sub~$600 build, and the 5770 should allow you to handle any game on max or near max settings dependent on your screen resolution
 
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