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I'm going to be building a PC for a business that needs it for heavy data manipulation and web crawling huge databases. This thing has to have plenty of RAM because that's where the data will sit before it's saved onto external drives. I'm also looking at SSD's since nothing is actually going to be written on the internal drive, the data is all going onto external so I can avoid the writing problem on SSD's. From what I understand the SSD's will act to add many gigs of extra RAM to the system.

Cost is no issue, this machine must be stable yet extremely powerful, as a result I am not allowed to do any overclocking.

I am looking at:

Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 Nehalem 3.2GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115200

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128362

G.SKILL TITAN Series FM-25S2S-256GBT1 2.5" 256GB SATA II Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231243

2 x CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - 12 GB total

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145224

Undecided between the

Thermaltake V1 Max-Performance CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106102

and the

ZALMAN CNPS9900LED 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118046

The TRUE is not happening,sadly, as this is a company order and they want to place the entire order on Newegg.

Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129025

PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703009

The ultimate in space saving - XFX PVT94GZAFG GeForce 9400 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150353

I will run XP Pro x64 or Vista Business Ultimate.

Thanks for any input, I am open to any suggestions or criticisms. Keep in mind I'm looking for power and stability.
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I really don't think you'll need an aftermarket HSF if you're not OCing. Other than that it looks pretty good, those SSD's are fast as hell. Very sexy for what you're doing (when I saw the 9400 I went
but then I read what you're going to be using it for
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You might as well put 12 gigs of RAM in while you're at it because the SSD won't act as RAM exactly like you think. Also, if you're not overclocking, the stock heat sink would be fine, just make sure you have good case cooling.
EDIT: Thought it was going to be for gaming. sorry
You might want to consider a Skulltrail setup (I.E two quad cores on one motherboard).

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Originally Posted by qTAP View Post
if your going with that CPU. get a better video card.
Read his post...
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Everything looks pretty good.

Scythe Mugen or Noctua will be better for a CPU cooler though. Both are sold on Newegg. Also Cooler master V-8 is an option, Vigor Monsoon.
Windows XP x64 has plenty of compatibility issues. Just wondering what field of business you are in, that way people can make suggestions more geared toward your profession. Also, I'd rather have an Antec 1200 then the P182.
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Originally Posted by ricsim78 View Post
I would skip the 965 Extreme Edition, get a Core i7 920 with a T.R.U.E., Noctua, or Cooler Master V-8 (or V-10). You will beat out the speed of the 965 and save nearly $600.00! (I know you can also Overclock the 965 but the point is, you are saving $600.00 or more and getting better speed than a 965).

Everything else looks pretty good.
Don't you people read his post? He can't get a TRUE because it's Newegg only, money is of no object (so why not a 965), and he can't overclock.
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go vista, xp x64 has a lot more issues than vista and with sp1 vista is perfectly fine. Get a core i7 920, no reason to get the 965
You're wasting 700 dollars on that cpu. A i7 920 will overclock as far on air. BTW the 9900 sucks, not even better than the 9700. The v1 sucks even worst.

Ok scratch that, but I still think the 965 is a waste
Looks good. Know that is for a business machine but may get 9600GSO at the same price. At least display images smooth a bit.
You mine as well get a 295GTX if the companies paying for it.
My sig rig was built specifically for heavy workloads so look at that for a reference point.

Kill my gtx285's and add 2 more 15K SAS 147G drives to raid the O.S. + 4 1.5 TB drives for data storage in raid and youll have a screamer... 965 vs 920 diff is not that huge fot the type of workload youll be doing honestly.... unless it needs to do some intense db queries youll never notice given HT being enabled.
Thanks for all the excellent input.

Let's start with the cooling. I do realize how well the Antec 900 cools, a friend has it and the airflow is amazing, but I can't have a business machine look like a gaming machine. I know function > form but there are just some things that can't be accommodated, which is why I chose to have an aftermarket cooler even though I do not plan to OC.

Now onto the processor. I went with the 965 b/c I was specifically told that this machine can not be overclocked. It's going to be running large loads for 18 hours or more and it has to be absolutely stable or data could be lost. Trust me, I talked to the boss and explained how much money he would save by going with the 920 and having me O/C it and Prime 95 until stable, but he wouldn't have any of it. Says he'll pay the difference to have a more stable machine.

I know some of you suggested I get a better Vcard. If this was my computer, which would be for gaming, of course I would run SLI 285 GTX's, but this video card merely has to work. I'll look into 9600GSO if it's not much difference in price.

mrkryz, the data is all going onto external or onto a server, from what I was told. This system is merely to do the data mining, with nothing being permanently written onto the SSD's.

losttsol, I am going with 12GB RAM (check my first post)

As for the O/S, boss favors Vista Business Ultimate so that's what we'll go with. I'm actually running XP Pro x64 on this system, my own home system, and the compatibility irks me and forces me to run a virtual PC, so I agree with the previous posters' arguments.

Thanks for all the responses, more are always appreciated.
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Don't you people read his post? He can't get a TRUE because it's Newegg only, money is of no object (so why not a 965), and he can't overclock.
Considering I changed my post to reflect that, obviously I do. I missed that part the first time for some reason. I realized it right away and changed what I put. Thanks for the info though.
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