It will be much easier for everyone, trust me, to put what it is after each link. (EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX(G92), OCZ 700W ATX12V etc.)
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This is what he originally posted, I just made'em clickable.
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Originally Posted by Skuttlebutton  Okay, I am new to this site and at building a computer and it will be about 600 ish dollars total. And i wanted to plan this out completely before i buy any parts, i want to know if everything will fit in the case, cooling, OC everything, the works, i need some outside help/advice from anybody willing to give me some. So, here are the specs: -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341018 OCZ 700W PSU -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130339 EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) 512MB -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103283 AMD Phenom 8450 Toliman 2.1GHz 3x (Triple Core CPU) -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103055 COOLER MASTER V8 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131331 ASUS M3A78-T AM2+/AM2 790GX Motherboard -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811196025 AeroCool BK Black steel ATX Mid Tower -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 SDRAM 1066 (PC2 8500) Memory Goal: Over clock it mildly to max capacity of its ability. Game anything from the half life series (TF2 and CS). And just have fun with it. Also, i would like to know if the heat sink will fit in the case with everything, if i can unlock the fourth core in the processor and to know if its a good buy. thanks in advanced, Jon |
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that psu is pretty much of an overkill. you can get a model that is 550w so that you can buy a better cpu and gpu. also, although the cm v8 is a good hsf, it's just too expensive for that budget. there's plenty of hsf that can perform near v8 for a better bargain.
so this processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103648
this gpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102770
or you can overclock this easily to get 4850 performance:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131129
and this psu:
http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/...7fc819576f4e52
and this hsf:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233012
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edit it will kick the ass of that e5200 build
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so this processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103648
this gpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102770
or you can overclock this easily to get 4850 performance:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131129
and this psu:
http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/...7fc819576f4e52
and this hsf:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233012
edit it will kick the ass of that e5200 build
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No way will that kick the E5200 build. The HD4850 may OC but it will always have 512mb of ram. Also the HD4870 can also OC like the HD4850. The E5200 will beat the 9850 easily when OCed to 3.6Ghz and above.
Originally Posted by gerikoh that psu is pretty much of an overkill. you can get a model that is 550w so that you can buy a better cpu and gpu. also, although the cm v8 is a good hsf, it's just too expensive for that budget. there's plenty of hsf that can perform near v8 for a better bargain. so this processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103648 this gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102770 or you can overclock this easily to get 4850 performance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131129 and this psu: http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/...7fc819576f4e52 and this hsf: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233012
edit it will kick the ass of that e5200 build
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what? did you even bother to click the link? it's a phenom2 x3 710 fyi. and if he's just planning to be satisfied with a dual core, heck just get an athlon x2 7750be kuma:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300
and at $60 he can definately get a 4870 so that makes it even with the gpu.
now we're just talking about the processors, and the kuma will kick the e5200 for good! sorry mate
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Originally Posted by kazakia No way will that kick the E5200 build. The HD4850 may OC but it will always have 512mb of ram. Also the HD4870 can also OC like the HD4850. The E5200 will beat the 9850 easily when OCed to 3.6Ghz and above. |
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300
and at $60 he can definately get a 4870 so that makes it even with the gpu.
now we're just talking about the processors, and the kuma will kick the e5200 for good! sorry mate
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i totally agree..E5200 is a 775 socket which is due to be replaced by i5's sooner..so buying it now won't go anywhere..if your satisfaction takes you to dual cores then 7750BE is a kickass..
Originally Posted by gerikoh what? did you even bother to click the link? it's a phenom2 x3 710 fyi. and if he's just planning to be satisfied with a dual core, heck just get an athlon x2 7750be kuma: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300 and at $60 he can definately get a 4870 so that makes it even with the gpu. now we're just talking about the processors, and the kuma will kick the e5200 for good! sorry mate
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Sorry for the AMD fans but any new overclocker can get an e5200 over 4Ghz, my e5200 keeps up with my e8400 almost neck to neck and I know there arent really many AMD chips keeping up with the e8400, especially once overclocked. Here's a link shows the e5200 way surpassing the x2 7750 once overclocked.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...00-oc-review/1
sorry for getting a little off topic i just don't think people realize what the e5200 can do, it's a 45 nm wolfdale for goodness sake. seriously though after overclocking the only difference between my e5200 and e8400 is a couple instructions sets and 4mb L2 cache, hey though glad to see AMD is getting back in the game
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Originally Posted by Shift. Gerikoh's right. An X3 710 will definitely surpass the E5200 in just about every aspect. The new 45nm X3's are actually competing with the E8400/E8500's. And if you wait a few months, you'd be able to get a 4870 for about the same price as a 4850 now. |
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...00-oc-review/1
sorry for getting a little off topic i just don't think people realize what the e5200 can do, it's a 45 nm wolfdale for goodness sake. seriously though after overclocking the only difference between my e5200 and e8400 is a couple instructions sets and 4mb L2 cache, hey though glad to see AMD is getting back in the game
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and the e7x00 is a wolfdale too. and against a 7x0, heck there's no even contest.
come on, the x3 7x0 series beats just about any duo at stock except the e8600. but oc them both clock for clock and the 7x0 will feast on it. oc them at 3.7 and 4.0ghz, the 3.7 720 be will still beat e8600 for a lower price.
and the extra core will just make your experience much smoother than any duals.
and about the e5200 vs kuma,
of course the e5200 will beat the kuma at 4ghz and 3.1 respectively in most reviews. but the kuma can also hit past 3.4 with good cooling and thus can keep the gap close with the e5200 slightly ahead. but amd chipsets are always better than their intel counterparts (except for the x58 coz of sli-xfire support), and costs it much less. (790gx vs p45 or higher)
so there you have it.
besides, he posted it in the amd thread. so please
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ohhh, you don't even need to unlock the 4th core to beat an e8x00. the extra 4th core is just BIG a bonus.
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Originally Posted by jspeedracer Sorry for the AMD fans but any new overclocker can get an e5200 over 4Ghz, my e5200 keeps up with my e8400 almost neck to neck and I know there arent really many AMD chips keeping up with the e8400, especially once overclocked. Here's a link shows the e5200 way surpassing the x2 7750 once overclocked. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...00-oc-review/1 sorry for getting a little off topic i just don't think people realize what the e5200 can do, it's a 45 nm wolfdale for goodness sake. |
come on, the x3 7x0 series beats just about any duo at stock except the e8600. but oc them both clock for clock and the 7x0 will feast on it. oc them at 3.7 and 4.0ghz, the 3.7 720 be will still beat e8600 for a lower price.
and the extra core will just make your experience much smoother than any duals.
and about the e5200 vs kuma,
of course the e5200 will beat the kuma at 4ghz and 3.1 respectively in most reviews. but the kuma can also hit past 3.4 with good cooling and thus can keep the gap close with the e5200 slightly ahead. but amd chipsets are always better than their intel counterparts (except for the x58 coz of sli-xfire support), and costs it much less. (790gx vs p45 or higher)
so there you have it.
besides, he posted it in the amd thread. so please
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| well you gotta remember that not all those trip core phenoms can stay stable once the 4rth core is unlocked, even with the "right" MoBo.. its more like a luck of the draw, i'd go with the 7750 Kuma just for sheer OC ability. |
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oh yeah, plus the fact that socket 775 are near eol, going with amd with a cheap am2+ mobo will be a better option since you can still use it with an am3 mobo. and who knows in the future, it might still be compatible with an am4
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only thing that sucks about triple cores is a lot of the multithreaded apps i use only use 2 or 4 cores
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i had an x3 8450 a while back and didn't find the 3rd core much useful for most things, though the OS made decent use of it. any reviews though with the e8400 running 4Ghz or above and the 720BE overclocked? and how high can you get those 720be?
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